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#3571996 - 05/13/12 12:31 AM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: kilosierra]
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Originally Posted By: kilosierra
One interesting thing I noticed today (did some tests as I today updated to the latest nvidia drivers) is that the game has more stutters for me with vsync ON. With vsync off, the stutters are almost gone, with the price of some tearing.

I always expected vsync on would smooth things out, doesn`t seem to be the case on my system.


Your right, I was able to turn everything back to HIGH @1920x1080 when I turned OFF vsync. Its was definitely one of the main culprits for micro stutters on my system.
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#3572030 - 05/13/12 01:54 AM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: JG52Uther]
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Vsync uses more system resources as the card tries to co-ordinate with the refresh, if you don't have screen tearing, you should leave it off anyways.

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#3572063 - 05/13/12 06:29 AM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]
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Originally Posted By: BKHZ_Furbs
Seems like im the only one with crashing still, frown going to validate files and try again.



Any better now?...I get crashes when trying to close the game
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#3572074 - 05/13/12 07:36 AM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: Chivas]
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Originally Posted By: Chivas
Originally Posted By: kilosierra
One interesting thing I noticed today (did some tests as I today updated to the latest nvidia drivers) is that the game has more stutters for me with vsync ON. With vsync off, the stutters are almost gone, with the price of some tearing.

I always expected vsync on would smooth things out, doesn`t seem to be the case on my system.


Your right, I was able to turn everything back to HIGH @1920x1080 when I turned OFF vsync. Its was definitely one of the main culprits for micro stutters on my system.


Exactly the same for me. Can't stand screen tearing but the way the game implements vsynch seems far less efficient than other games. I have mentioned this earlier in the 1C bug thread in the hopes they look at it. I have found that the 'half refresh rate' adaptive vsynch forced via the latest Nvidia driver helps but it doesn't get rid of it entirely.


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#3572081 - 05/13/12 08:19 AM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: FIScott]
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Boko, could you or anyone please give me a link to the hotfix? I have joined the swelling Nomadic ranks of the Talibanned for a short time lol.....A desolate Tribe forced to wander the barren deserts of the banned in search of hotfixes and figs. biggrin

I reckon it would be a better idea if instead of PMing someone could provide a link for everyone, I'm far from the only one to have felt the Sting of the 'Sword of Banocles' lol.

Cheers chaps. smile


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#3572095 - 05/13/12 09:05 AM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: JG52Uther]
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#3572100 - 05/13/12 09:24 AM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: Tbag]
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Just PM'd you before seeing the post T', thanks a bunch again....Yer a Star. cheers
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#3572780 - 05/14/12 03:59 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: Chivas]
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Originally Posted By: Chivas
Originally Posted By: kilosierra
One interesting thing I noticed today (did some tests as I today updated to the latest nvidia drivers) is that the game has more stutters for me with vsync ON. With vsync off, the stutters are almost gone, with the price of some tearing.

I always expected vsync on would smooth things out, doesn`t seem to be the case on my system.


Your right, I was able to turn everything back to HIGH @1920x1080 when I turned OFF vsync. Its was definitely one of the main culprits for micro stutters on my system.


That's because that is how v-sync works.

It forces the render buffer to only output when it has completed a frame, so if it misses a monitor sync cycle, it has to wait for the next.

IE., if your monitor is running at 60hz, with v-sync on, you will be effectively viewing only 60fps exactly...or 30fps (if it drops even 1fps below 60), 15fps, etc.

That's why nVidia created "Adaptive V-Sync" in their new drivers. If you are rendering at higher than 60fps...it turns on v-sync, so you have a nice, solid 60fps display. If the render speed drops BELOW 60fps, it turns off v-sync so you don't experience the sharp drop to the next lowest 'synched' framerate.
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#3572901 - 05/14/12 07:05 PM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: Xander Fulton]
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Originally Posted By: Xander Fulton
Originally Posted By: Chivas
Originally Posted By: kilosierra
One interesting thing I noticed today (did some tests as I today updated to the latest nvidia drivers) is that the game has more stutters for me with vsync ON. With vsync off, the stutters are almost gone, with the price of some tearing.

I always expected vsync on would smooth things out, doesn`t seem to be the case on my system.


Your right, I was able to turn everything back to HIGH @1920x1080 when I turned OFF vsync. Its was definitely one of the main culprits for micro stutters on my system.


That's because that is how v-sync works.

It forces the render buffer to only output when it has completed a frame, so if it misses a monitor sync cycle, it has to wait for the next.

IE., if your monitor is running at 60hz, with v-sync on, you will be effectively viewing only 60fps exactly...or 30fps (if it drops even 1fps below 60), 15fps, etc.

That's why nVidia created "Adaptive V-Sync" in their new drivers. If you are rendering at higher than 60fps...it turns on v-sync, so you have a nice, solid 60fps display. If the render speed drops BELOW 60fps, it turns off v-sync so you don't experience the sharp drop to the next lowest 'synched' framerate.


I never had a problem with Vsync causing stutters with IL-2, but I will look for Adaptive V-Sync in the nvidia program.
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#3573056 - 05/15/12 01:31 AM Re: Patch report 2 + mini fix [Re: JG52Uther]
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Its on the latest Nvidia betas but not in the WHQL release. It certainly is making a difference for me. I've all but eliminated stutters.

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