Good news! I'm stuck at work at the moment though He said all bugs but one fixed which sounds good, but has anyone tested to see if they've fixed the Spit throttle/boost situation?

No sorry, but the 109 was given a little performance boost

Menu's all messed up, when clicking on buttons i get background pictures showing through and covering up the button im trying to press, map flickers and scrolls on its own.

No sorry, but the 109 was given a little performance boost

Strange you didn't put that in your bug report! So far no one else has reported that particular problem.
Maybe you should follow Blackdogs method for install and see if that helps, because something is screwey on your system IMO.

Why strange? i was tryin to get a screen shot first.....


By furbs9999 at 2012-05-12

Furbs, I had similar in the past, turned off shadows/exit steam/restart game/turn on shadows/cross fingers/do a jig in your underwear

What speed are you getting it to? I'm still unable to reach the previous 470 in level flight, seem to get stuck at 450. We have yet to receive the speed increase to the 109's FM.

Really? not the jig bit, the shadows bit?

Seems like im the only one with crashing still, going to validate files and try again.

One interesting thing I noticed today (did some tests as I today updated to the latest nvidia drivers) is that the game has more stutters for me with vsync ON. With vsync off, the stutters are almost gone, with the price of some tearing.

I always expected vsync on would smooth things out, doesn`t seem to be the case on my system.

Seems like im the only one with crashing still, going to validate files and try again.

Your right, I was able to turn everything back to HIGH @1920x1080 when I turned OFF vsync. Its was definitely one of the main culprits for micro stutters on my system.

Your right, I was able to turn everything back to HIGH @1920x1080 when I turned OFF vsync. Its was definitely one of the main culprits for micro stutters on my system.

That's because that is how v-sync works.

It forces the render buffer to only output when it has completed a frame, so if it misses a monitor sync cycle, it has to wait for the next.

IE., if your monitor is running at 60hz, with v-sync on, you will be effectively viewing only 60fps exactly...or 30fps (if it drops even 1fps below 60), 15fps, etc.

That's why nVidia created "Adaptive V-Sync" in their new drivers. If you are rendering at higher than 60fps...it turns on v-sync, so you have a nice, solid 60fps display. If the render speed drops BELOW 60fps, it turns off v-sync so you don't experience the sharp drop to the next lowest 'synched' framerate.

I never had a problem with Vsync causing stutters with IL-2, but I will look for Adaptive V-Sync in the nvidia program.

Well how often did IL-2 drop below 60fps? Not too often...at least, not that since I can remember...

(That said, IL-2:1946 and CloD are using very different APIs...one is OpenGL, the other Direct3D. They handle frame/render buffers and v-sync a bit differently.)

Your right, I was able to turn everything back to HIGH @1920x1080 when I turned OFF vsync. Its was definitely one of the main culprits for micro stutters on my system.

Hey Chivas,

When many first complained about stuttering, they were told that their systems were outdated. Since our systems are similar, perhaps we need an upgrade? LOL (I also remember being told I needed to calibrate my monitor before CoD changed the gaudy colors).

BTW, I can run it fine (good fps with new patch) with all on highest and 1920 x 1200 NP, just the stutters are very bad and shimmers like he11. Need 2650 x 1600 to make shimmering semi reasonable, but a big fps drop. I think AA at 1920 x 1200 would be more efficient than very high res and I have GTX 580 x 2 3gb video memory.

I don't use SLI and i have always had constant stutters. I can't disable vsync without bad tearing in CoD. Funny thing, because at 1920 x 1200 I find the landscape shimmers like he11. Its really bad. 2650 x 1600 it is poor but better. Hope AF helps that because it is really ugly. I did not adjust the colours because they are fine now after they fixed them. It was just funny that some people were blaming customers monitors for the early ugly colours and then the customers rigs for the stutters. Now it is proven that CoD is to blame.

Glad they are fixing the CTD, but I never had many of those so its no biggy for me. I'm waiting for the stutters to get fixed and AA and AF. It should not take years to fix those things. I have written off CoD content wise as I know we will not get a proper campaign etc. ever. I have taken it off my SSD until the retail patch and I'll try it again then. If it is not up to scratch by then, I'm out for good as will so many others. But I'll never get serious with this sim as it has too much wrong with it that will never get fixed.

I think the future of this sim has been permanently damaged. Too many people are moving on. The banana forum is dead compared to say BMS or DCS which regularly have 4x the members logged in. Some will stay. If it is fixed to high enough standards some will return. I think they missed the boat though for any real resurgence.

I hope I'm wrong, but I don't see it.

Chivas, please lose the "haters" stuff, nobody hates COD...ok...maybe Nuggetz, but everyone else wants COD to be fantastic.

DCS and other modern flight sims are irrelevant to the WW2 aircombat community. As yet there are no hardcore WW2 combat flight sims that can compete with the original IL-2, at least as far a community size goes, which says alot about the other sims. If the new IL-2 series works out its problems and no other decent sim comes out in the mean time the whole community will eventually migrate to the new series. The tools for the community to build campaigns are there, especially triggers, which will make very interesting campaigns. Some in the community and third parties are making good campaigns now, once the bugs are fixed, and the community fills out then the campaign building will start in earnest.

Personally I don't think the sim is permanently damaged, even the haters continue to check the forums for news of updates. This stabability patch is a huge hurdle the sim is close to climbing, the next will be the Sequel. The developers will probably fix the major bugs before releasing the Sequel if they want enough sales for the series to survive. The series will get a new lease on life, if the reviews of the Sequel are good. This will not kill COD as almost every fix and new feature in the Sequels can be applied to COD.

Chivas, please lose the "haters" stuff, nobody hates COD...ok...maybe Nuggetz, but everyone else wants COD to be fantastic.

Yes, I agree "hater" is a little strong as is "fanboy" at the other end of the spectrum, used to describe anyone who says anything good about the sim.

Seems to me?
That everybody is running out of hope and patience, to include me.
With the lack of activity here and at the Banana Forums, it seems to prove it.

I think....That 1C will mostly fix the CTD/Launcher.exe problems and that will be it for CloD.
I think....That they will use an excuse of "dwindling resources" or the like, as an
excuse to abandon CloD and free up resources for BOM development.

I agree with PV1 "Frambois are the rasberries..."

Not sure why you would think that the developers are abandoning COD. Every improvement they make to the AI, FM, DM, Trees, Water, Clouds, Dynamic weather, DX11, etc during the next ten or so years of development of new theaters can be applied to COD. Not to mention all the third party professional and amateur modders working on enhancements to COD and every other theater.

Personally, I've run out of new material to keep posting. I do have hope.

@Chivas....It's been a good 14 months since this product was sold.
It still does not work correctly and is lacking in content.

Seems to me, a good thing, that folks do CPR on a victim to try to save a life.
However, 14 months later? Seems like some folks like kissing the corpse.

I tried CoD when it came out.

Now, I'm pretending it was never released -- rather that was a paid for beta test -- its still in development -- and I await the actual release.

I come to the Forum every so often. You guys' posts will tell me when the game is "finished" (one way or another ).

Hopefully, it will be finished in a positive way and, then, evolve on into the future (making happy customers and rich developers). We'll see

I'm starting to believe the conspiracy theories that all this code re-write, was really just a stall tactic until they can get BOM closer to release. It sure looks like they just removed offending textures at the last minute and wrote them out of the code, instead of properly optimizing the code. Next comes the re-naming of the current patch: Add some different numbers at the end, remove the word beta, and release to the public and then act surprised when the crap hits the fan. Release a statement saying "Were looking in to it", then hide until BOM is released. LOL

I know it's kinda far fetched but who really knows whats been going on over there.

The core issues, like the weather system, AI, FMs, will not be fundamentally improved.

This development is not a game or a conspiracy, its a business with millions of dollars invested. The only possible way this business will make money is by fixing the game issues, not by using smoke and mirrors. The development has already played their past quality card releasing the sim unfinished to give the sim a chance to be finished. There is absolutely no point and they don't have the time to play silly head games with the community, they already have our money and aren't getting any more until they deliver.

Chivas, I know that you have the best of intentions about "explaining" CloD.
All appearances, patches and communication from "Luthier" suggest a "Titanic" ending
for this "mistake"...It doesn't matter how hard "they" are trying to bail the boat,
using coffee cups.

When the designated "community manager" for CloD at 1C does not have anything, whatsoever,
to do with or fixing CloD? You have one heck of a serious problem. A problem that 1C will not
fix. Let alone, fix this sim. Google the word "maskirovka", perhaps you will have a better
understanding of what is going on and the why of it.

If CloD were an Ere_tile Dysfunction med?
Nobody would "get off" the ground.
Further, 14 months after "taking it"?
The duct tape and splint patch ain't very fun.
So, what ya got now?
A bunch of folks sporting a male member, that looks like a "skinned squirrel".

No disrespect to your person Chivas.
You are without a doubt, the most positive person to ever write about CloD.
While it may seem that I am a critic here?
I appreciate your many attempts to do the right thing. My comments are meant
to be more aimed at 1C, Luthier and Blacksix.

Salute Chivas

I never been totally optimistic on the sims survival, as a matter of fact I've often suggested this sim will fail if the latest stability patch is unsuccesfull. I just don't agree with your opinion that COD is dead because the development crew is working on the sequel, as its the same game except for maps, and campaigns.

Modellers of anything don't work on code. They create 3D models, they don't code.

I know this because I'm in IT. Coders go to school to code. Modellers go to school for 3D modelling. The two do not intertwine. It'd be like a database administrator that does SQL going out and setting up an advanced network. Not going to happen.

we don't really know what exactly is going on in their dev team

Sprites are not 3D modelling.

Putting the job specialization stuff to one side (please) then one thing we can all probably agree on - we don't really know what exactly is going on in their dev team, but it's slow progress so far.