" ... Someone figured out in the 1960s that meat processors can eek out a few more percent of profit from chickens, turkeys, pigs, and cows by scraping the bones 100% clean of meat. This is done by machines, not humans, by passing bones leftover after the initial cutting through a high pressure sieve. The paste you see in the picture above is the result. ..."

" ... There's more: because it's crawling with bacteria, it will be washed with ammonia... Then, because it tastes gross, it will be reflavored artificially. Then, because it is weirdly pink, it will be dyed with artificial color. "

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T67DvoH2H3E&feature=related

Certainly, McDonald's has stopped making their "chicken nuggets" that way. Probably they finally left out the eyeballs ?
I will sure have a different look at those "nuggets" in the future ..

That is disgusting, having worked as a cook the first time I saw Mechanically separated Turkey was enough, the consistency (like pink paste), the smell and how it looks after cooking (grey) I will never eat another thing that has "mechanically separated" in the ingredients.

Fish sticks are no different, that video will sure draw some attention to the ignorant with no clue.
Oh yes, lets not forget what they put in the can of soup. Some seriously disgusting stuff.

I saw a documentary lately dealing with the food-industry.

Not funny.

Whenever possible, I avoid buying packed "meat" in super-markets. You have to read VERY carefully to find out, if you are having actually real meat or something glued together in your hands.

In that another show, they showed how much strawberries are really in a strawberry-jogurt. Was something like half of one berry in a 150 grams cup. Rest is flavour. And lots of sugar.

I don`t buy that stuff anymore. I`m mixing my own ones. With real fruits and maybe a little honey.

folks have been making sausage out of 'scraps', blood, brains, organs, bone marrow etc for many hundreds of years. The whole ammonia treatment bit is somewhat gross but still..IMO...chicken nuggests are probably the best thing on McDonalds menu LOL

My experience with chicken nuggets has always been chicken breast, I know coz I look at the nugget after I bite into it... no way they can synthesize the look and texture of chicken breast, right?

The preparation of every piece of processed food will turn your stomach. That is the nature of the game and since 90% of everything you eat is processed you can not really escape it. I guess you could grow your own garden food and raise your own chickens/cows but the majority of the populous can not do that.

I have worked with mechanically separated stuff and it does not bother me to eat it. In fact I was angry when McDonalds went to their new chicken nuggets because the old ones tasted 10x better even though they contained mechanically separated chicken.

Parts is parts.

EEWWWW...

...because fresh poultry products are SOOO not gross...

http://i.imgur.com/SdQOt.jpg (WARNING: some might find this gross... This is from an open market in Mexico).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9B7im8aQjo

And there you have it how to make old style chicken nuggets. I wonder if he actually let them eat what he made or if he just put them on the plate as a show since they didnt show anyone eating them.

Simply turns my stomach. Those who say, "Yeah but it tastes good"- have at it. Nothing is more unappetizing than actually looking at where factory processed food is made, from rat poop and bug parts mixed into canned foods, just to seeing these cheap ingredients assembled on the conveyor belts- it's really not 'food' in any sense consumers probably think about when they get it in the end state at the store. I watched a program a few years ago on America's favorite snacks, even people who like Twinkies would probably draw a pause seeing this- mostly chemicals mixed with flower and water, then baked, then glazed with some other chemical to make it appear shiney and 'fresh,' the injection of lard into the cake for the filing, and then when you see the thousands of them on the machine belts, you certainly don't get a feel there's any 'magic' in them like the way television commercials advertise food. Totally machine made, no human involvement, and it's just extremely cheap looking. People found a way to mix something worthless together and sell it for a profit. The real irony is what the FDA permits to go into food, given the government's regulation of tobacco, alcohol or obsessive prohibition of illegal drugs.

Because of both the health issues of eating red meat and the poor ethical standards of factory produced animals generally, the only meat I can do is fish.




That's the way to do it- buy plain, add your own fresh fruit. I find the taste actually more agreeable, and I'm not getting a daily shot of high fructose corn syrup.

How about a hot dog instead?

There's more- it's not just the notion of whether it's appetizing or not, there is a serious health impact of all of this, the public at large sort of acknowledges it, but not really. Since it is defined as 'food' after all, since the government permits it (which of course usually has incestuous ties to the food and agriculture industry, hence the powerful food lobby), it must be safe to eat. There appears to be a high correlation between rates of breast and prostate cancer in the developed world, these tissues essentially store chemicals impacting cell development. Likewise, food allergies are practically unheard of in regions where they don't have these sorts of diets (although we can concede they might have other problems- high degree of food poisoning, cholera, or some such thing).

That is because anyone with a major allergy died as a baby.

...and this is why I buy all my meat from the Halal butcher at the market down the street, or the certified organic, hormone-free, nitrate-free grower I know personally at the State farmer's market.

Everything I've heard suspects a degree of correlation with local diets- specifically studies have taken note of this, at that, different allergies might be more common in different regions, seeming to justify the suspicion.

Of course there are trade offs- you can buy food with pesticides contained in them on the one hand, or perhaps risk some kind of bacteria contamination on the other if they aren't washed and prepared first.

I come from a long line of farmers ( I'm the first generation not to be a farmer ). I do get a kick out of the entire "organic, nitrate free" thing. Organic basically means "fertilized with manure and ash from burning the stubble" as opposed to the fertilizer from a bag........I'm not sure about the whole "nitrate free" business.....when we grew stuff like lettuce and cabbage that need a lot of green leaves ( in other words ..lots of nitrate ) you could do it a couple of ways.....get the nitrates from commercial fertilizer or from hen manure...which is PACKED full of nitrates. City folks tend to get highly upset when they find that their lettuce has been covered in hen #%&*$# ....but they love it when you sell it as "organic"

My cousins now make pretty good money selling "organic" veg.


and for those with "sensitive" stomachs.....just look up how "black pudding" is made YUM

Pasteurized or un-pasteurized honey? I did some research on honey recently and found out that the pasteurization process of honey destroys around 200 nutrients in honey. Most honey sold in stores is pasteurized.

After watching this video yesterday I don't even want to eat meat anymore. These people are cruel and subhuman. Think I will stick to fish or turn vegetarian.

Awww man you just made me remember a horrifying incident a few years back when the kids were a lot younger.My wife ,3 kids and I went into Mc Ds ordered their nuggets and as one of my kids were munching on their food I noticed something sticking out of one of the nugget's,on further examination I saw it was a chicks beak,honestly 100% true,wife went berserk and turned vegetarian to this day (15yrs)another nugget of any kind was never munched by any of us again and it was this incident which opened my eyes to the whole mechanical separation thing,course I knew where our food came from but back then it wasn't as well known about publicly as today I think.
Gives me shivers now when I think back to pulling that beak out of the so called nugget,lol.

In China chicken's feet are considered a delicacy. I tried one once and it was horrible hard grizzle and nothing to write home about.

Navy Nuke, so you know, Halal packing plants have one of the lowest sanitation ratings in the U.S. A magazine for cattle breeders had an article on them several months ago.

Most of you who live in cities have no clue of what you are eating or how it gets to you. Kontak's comment on red meat made me laugh. Red meat being 'harmful' is another myth that has been pushed on the public by people with their own agenda, not with your best interest in mind.

'Organic' is another term most of you have no clue what the meaning is. I would much rather eat lettuce or some other vegetable that has been fertilized with nitrogen pellets than with pure unadulterated sh!t. It's no wonder there are so many outbreaks of e.coli nowadays. People think 'organic' means it's as pure as the wind driven snow, and it's actually filthy.

I'm nearly 50 years old. My family has farmed and ranched in the same area since the 1870s. I know how my food is processed and where it comes from. I rarely buy anything organic due to the health risk. I eat red meat damn near every meal, but I get plenty of exercise working on the ranch daily, not sitting behind a desk. I will NOT eat free-range chicken on a bet.

The American food industry is among the safest in the entire world. Al this recent hysteria is laughable. If you're over forty years old, what you're eating now is much much safer and better for you than much of what you ate growing up.

* EDIT:

Also, I refuse to eat anything from McDonald's and will not buy a Tyson product.

These are determinations made my medical science, you sound like one of those people who are completely oblivious to what is going on but are on the authority somehow anyway. A few years ago, even the Pentagon noted that the rising obesity in American children are threat to its recruiting standards.
Those of you with little or knowledge trickling in make me cringe- people are definitely fatter, larger now than when I was growing up, the rising obesity rates are a matter of record.

Eat to your heart's content, if you want, but don't mistake your ignorance for mine.

Last night on channel Een they had a program on called Volt and they had a feature on steak from the Blau wit (Belgian Blue) cattle and how it is tasteless, something I heartly agree with, the meat is bland and without taste I would not waste my money on buying a lump of meat either from a resturant or from a butcher. In my 7 years of living here I have found one resturant that serves good meat and that is a small resturant attached to a farm and they only serve meat that they have grown themselves. That resturant is only open for a few months of the year, you can go along and get introduced to your next steak before it is slaughtered

Still, I like Aberdeen Angus from Scotland the best and so do my friends

It's not that you can't find any number of health studies, here's one correlating colon cancer with red meat.

http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/Red-meat-and-colon-cancer.shtml

So vocatx, do you have any studies which refutes that, or what is it you are relying on?

Recommended reading: The China Study

Yea, but that is not caused by meat. The theory is that it may be because of corn syrup used in many processed foods and also because in the USA/Canada people just eat too much of everything.

Just to throw this one into the sausage mix: correlation is not (necessarily) causation.

Parts of these studies also suggest that the act of cooking it creates carcinogenic compounds- which could be true of burned toast.

Look, with all the data about heart disease and the health related problems in this country strongly suggests there is a syndrome going on- there's not any one cause to the health problems, but it's a cocktail of all these things- high caloric diets and processed foods combined with sedentary habits. People either accept the consequences and do it anyway, or simply deny it as some kind of cynical agenda. If it's the latter, what is the explanation for it? Why would people recommend diets which limit the intake of some kinds of foods and emphasize other for health? What's the motivation?

Causation is probably never proven- it probably never exists. There is never any single cause and effect, there are lots of things going on interacting with one another in a continuum, out of which we isolate a couple of pieces and infer cause. We infer cause- we don't actually ever experience it. What we're talking about is a degree of correlation- one that appears to be supported by all the evidence. Even on an everyday level, you can see this empirically without any scientific method. The people I know who eat the most fast food and get the least amount of exercise tend not to look so healthy. A bad diet and poor exercise can resemble what heavy drinking does- the effects look like people just age more.

McDonald's stopped using pink slime chicken over 10 years ago. They did a major publicity campaign at the time.

Maybe for chicken, but they used it up until last year in burgers and whatever else.

http://www.aboutmcdonalds.com/mcd/newsro..._Trimmings.html

+1 (I'm not 50 and my family hasn't farmed since the 1870's, but +1 for everything else. My dad has worked in the meat industry for 30 years or so.)



I put the last sentence in bold, because I think that's more relevant than how McDonalds gets the meat off the chicken bones or exactly which parts of the cow end up in the hot dogs we eat. People can only eat organic hamburgers and free-range nuggets and they're still going to have health problems if that's what they eat everday and then sit at a desk for 9 hours. Oh yeah, don't forget the 32 oz "diet" coke.

The point I'm making is that there's nothing wrong with a hot dog or some nuggets or a burger every now and then. It just can't be every meal every day, and you gotta get some exercise in there somewhere.

That's what I love about living in Argentina, I can actually see the cow moving on a rail in front of me in the morning, and eat it that very same night...

No kidding, there's a meat shop in my way to the office where they unload the truck and they have this rail in the sidewalk, so the half cows go from the truck to the shop... Small shop but apparently the sell a lot. You can actually bump into half a cow if you're say, texting or something.

Mmmmm, extra flavor. Wonder why they need an anti-foam agent in them?

LOL, you can use the TBHQ in Fracking too!

I always get a kick out of when city people suddenly get a clue that meat comes from animals, and that one has to kill the animal to get the meat.

I guess I spent too much time on farms and ranches as well as hunting. Butchering hogs is terrible work that is only made worth it by the ambrosia that is bacon.

On foaming agents - it's to keep the hot oil from foaming while cooking, which is really important when processing a zillion nuggets.

I'll take whatever is offered today in the USA as food over what was put out 100 years ago in the factories. You know, that time of man and nature producing perfect food? When people rarely lived past 60.

But at least they were healthy when they died, as opposed to now.

Is that a reference to the video I posted about animal cruelty on factory pig farms? Just so you know, I lived on a farm for five years with pigs, cattle and chickens and we certainly didn't abuse the animals like those subhumans do in the video. That's what the video is about and we are well aware that meat comes from the killing of animals. You seem to be defending animal abuse.

Have to say that vid was disgusting Comacho. I'm a meat eater and I have no problem with animals being killed as swiftly and as painlessly as possible......but those arsewipes were sadistic b*stards who need a good kicking. No need for that at all, absolutely awful.

Is killing them 'awful', too? Its nature, and Human beings are omnivorous by nature....So be it. No need to torture them sadistically like that though, horrible stuff.

Dart wasn't defending animal abuse, but I'm not sure where the 'y'all city boyz don't no' nuttin' stuff is coming from either (eh?). Yes, we all think bacon butties just magically appear in the magical bacon buttie place, and are delivered to shops by cutesy winged flying Care Bears.....lol.

Dart is a good ole boy from Alabama so maybe that explains it.

Dart played in the Blues Brothers movie as a,member of that country band?

Well I can't say I'm too bothered by the chicken paste. That's the nature of highly processed foods.

The original video is an opinion piece, of course. My own opinion is that plenty of foods are "gross" when they are not in their final prepared state. Yet they are quite tasty when completed, as have been McDonald's chicken nuggets on the rare occasions when I've eaten them.

Naw, I'm more country than a "good ole boy."

The jerks throwing piglets are dumb; it just teaches the pigs that you'll hurt them, and pigs are dangerous enough as it is.

It's the whole notion that somehow food animals are pets and should be treated the same as them that gets me, which isn't the case. Unless they're rabbits in hutches. Then it's fine to name them, pet them, put them in an open enclosure to let them hop around just to see how cute they are, and then selectively kill them for a nice lunch.

Chickens, OTOH, are vile and pretty much deserve anything handed to them by way of rough treatment.

I've known one too many person who thinks pork chops grow on trees as well. I once had a girl stop dating me after I had strung up a deer for skinning and butchering.

"How could you hurt a defenseless animal!"

My favorite quote of all time is from a book called "Fast Food Nation"


Thank the industrialized meat packing operations of today for that fun little fact.

Beyond that of course is that much of what you eat is based on one little thing, corn. Snack foods, soda, the slab of cow on your plate (this is also why they recently have had e. coli issues, surprisingly cows aren't meant to eat corn), etc, etc. So you are eating high energy foods, often, which leads to obesity. There is also issues related to the nature of the centralized feed lot operations too. I.E., the animals are generally of ill health, so all of them are packed full of anti-biotics to keep them from kicking off. Thus leading to anti-biotic resistant bacteria.

The food industry, a wonderful thing...

Having lived in the country for my fist 13 years I know full well where meat is procured. Heck our class field trip for the 8th grade was to go the the local slaughterhouse. Having seen what I saw at the time when we moved to the big ole city I decided to forget all I knew and just become one of those dumb city folks who think it just magically appears under cellophane.


Wheels

Well to be honest i was just eating some (from Mc) when i thought i might google to find out how it's made.
I did not really like it lol, and I later learned that McD. does NOT produce it's chicken McNuggets the way it is shown in the first video any more - not since some years, that is.

But pre-processed nuggets ARE made of this "pink slime" as the industry itself calls it, don't know of other fast food restaurants though.
In those endless sausage they put all in, from claws to eyes, innards, bones scraped (the latter is even ok i think compared to the others), but then this pulp is swarming with bacteria, which is why again it is treated with ammonia and antibiotics. Ammonia gives it a strange smell and taste (but it's still in it!), so it again is treated with (artificial) flavours, salt and lots of sugar.

So talking about an opinionated vid is certainly right, and it is indeed my opinion that i do not like it - especially when i buy this as a so-called high quality ("master") food for a LOT of dollars. Nothing against using all and being against this "throw-it-away mentality", but especially when you look at Wendy's or McD.'s package cult of blown up plastic and paper around a little food you cannot really say that this all is done to be sustainable or environment friendly.


I had a McRib yesterday, but i better not research what is in there ..

When I was sixteen I worked in two shops which were part of the Dewhurst butchers chain.

You really would not want to know what goes into sausages. There will be an even more cavalier attitude to ingredients nowadays.

Don't bother at all unless you can see them being made - and make your own burgers.

I started transitioning to a paleo diet recently. I only eat grass fed beef. I have eliminated almost all of the sugars from my diet except fruit. I do not eat ANY corporate food.

No drinks with sugar
No pasta
No big breads. Flat breads only.
No potatoes

My dinners are protein and veggies only.

I only drink water, milk, unsweet iced tea, coffee and beer.

Doing what I can to avoid the awful first world diseases.

Radar, I'm doing pretty much the same. Man, it's the bread I miss the most and will have some every few days.

Moving from NY to TX helped. A lot of the very good bread products I loved so much are simply not available anymore so, those habits were broken for me, no will power required.

Watching the older generations of my family suffer through avoidable diseases is a strong motivator

It wasn't that part that really disgusted me, it was near the end where someone is torturing a pig by crushing its snout with a vice grip or something like that. Did you watch that video to the end?

What's bad about pasta? You can buy whole wheat pasta and pasta has lots of carbohydrates.

I buy Ryvita crisp bread, no preservatives or any other crap and has lots of fibre.

Again, what is bad about potatoes? Don't eat them every day but they are chock full of vitamins. Sweet potatoes and yams are classified as "superfoods" even and far healthier than white rice.

Sounds to me like you are on that Zone diet.

http://www.zonediet.com/

Turns into sugars IIRC.

Pasta, breads and potatoes are carb bombs. They will fuel you if you are working out or your job involves physical labor but, for an IT guy that only gets to exercise 3 hours a week with diabetes in the family... they should be avoided.

We need some sugars for energy, fruit has loads of sugars too. Whether the sugars come from fruit or pasta makes no dif. Sugars are sugars. It's like salt, they said too much salt is bad for you but now they are finding out that many people are cutting out too much salt which is just as bad for you as overloading on salt. Some people try to cut out oils and fats and yet some fats and oils are healthy for your brain. That zone diet you take a tablespoon of olive oil with every meal. Everything in moderation, there is no need to completely cut out healthy foods like potatoes.

That is not true:

Indeed.*nods sagely* The Man who renounces the venerable Potato has renounced life itself.

Charlotte, Maris Piper, Jersey Royals, Delicious Desiree, mmmmmm.....Taters. Theres a whole world of Splendid Spuds to explore, and custom cannot stale their infinite variety.

But sugars from pasta are not detrimental, they are beneficial, just like sugars from fruit, which is what I meant. Except in excess. That guy said they both eliminate fructose. Fructose is the type of sugars in fruit and the Atkins diet has been shown to be an unhealthy diet. The zone diet is healthier than Atkins.

http://www.livestrong.com/article/465447-does-pasta-convert-to-sugar/

All foods containing carbohydrates break down into sugar. Sugar derived from pasta differs from sugar in candy and soft drinks, however. For overall wellness, the "Dietary Guidelines for Americans, 2010" recommends a diet containing 45 to 65 percent carbohydrates, which are prevalent in fruits, vegetables, sweets and starches, including pasta. Gaining understanding of how your body responds to and utilizes carbohydrates and how pasta varies from other sources may guide you toward making wise dietary decisions.

Your body cannot absorb nutrients from food in its original, whole form. This is where your digestive system comes in. Unlike added sugars, such as cane sugar and corn syrup, which digest in one step, starch from pasta digests in two steps, according to the National Digestive Diseases Information Clearinghouse. First, enzymes in your saliva and pancreas break starch down into a natural sugar called maltose. In the second step, an enzyme in the lining of your small intestine splits maltose into smaller glucose molecules, which can be stored in your blood. Glucose is your body's main dietary source of energy.

In addition to supplying energy, pasta may enhance your nutritional health. Choose whole-grain pasta most often, which provides more benefits than refined, or "white," pasta. As a fiber-rich food, whole-grain pasta may improve your blood sugar and energy levels, leading to improved appetite control and a lowered risk for diabetes. Whole grains are also linked with positive heart health. One cup of cooked whole-wheat spaghetti provides over 6 g of fiber, which is over one-third of women's daily recommended minimum and over one-quarter of men's. Whole grains also supply B vitamins, which play an important role in your energy and metabolism, and essential minerals, such as selenium and magnesium. Pasta is also free of added sugars, which may contribute to weight gain, poor nutrient intake and tooth decay. The DGA recommends eating at least three 1 oz. servings of whole grains per day and choosing whole grains over refined grains, such as instant noodles, at least half of the time.

http://www.discovergoodnutrition.com/index.php/2011/02/the-truth-about-sugars-in-fruit/

It happened again the other day. I was teaching a class, and a student dismissed the health benefits of fruit because, as she put it, “it’s full of sugar”. This idea that fruit is somehow a bad thing to eat came into full swing with the low carb diet craze a few years ago. But the myth persists. Not a week goes by that I don’t hear someone tell me that they avoid fruit because it’s “all sugar” or “loaded with carbs”. So, I’m here to set the record straight and come to the defense of some of the world’s healthiest foods – fresh, whole fruits.

I’ll tackle the “fruit is all sugar” statement first – because it’s just plain wrong. Fresh fruit offers so much more than the natural sugar it contains – including water, vitamins, minerals, fiber and phytonutrients (those naturally-occurring plant compounds that have wide ranging beneficial effects on the body). Where else can you get a package like that for about 75 calories per serving?

The idea that fruit is “loaded with carbs” or is “full of sugar” needs to be put into perspective, too. It’s true that when you eat fruit, the overwhelming majority of the calories you consume are supplied by carbohydrate – mostly in the form of fructose, which is the natural sugar in the fruit.

But that’s the nature not just of fruit, but of all plant foods – they’re predominantly carbohydrate (and that means not just natural sugars, but healthy starches as well as structural elements, like cellulose, that provide fiber). When you eat vegetables, the majority of the calories you’re eating come from carbohydrate, too. But you don’t hear people complaining that vegetables are “loaded with carbs”.

Reminds me of that quote, "when a man is bored of London then he is bored of life". Oscar Wilde?

Well, for the time being, I am happy to ditch those sugars. I am not suffering w/o them so, it's really no problem for me.

I've already lost 70 lbs and I want to lose 30 more so, every bit helps.

I watched a documentary about a guy in Venezuela who weighed over 500lbs. and they put him on the zone diet and he lost something like 150lbs. in the first year. I need to lose weight badly so should consider going on it.

I always get a kick when 'country people' refer to everyone else dismissively as city people, as if that actually explains anything or nullifies what we actually know. Sorry, but no matter where you live, a bad diet and and poor exercise habits does the same thing everywhere, and that exists in the country as well. You can go to some rural places and see alot of pastey and soft looking bodies, like a grub, and people just don't look all too healthy. Since I've lived in both, I have an idea what people look like other than just having such a narrow frame of reference.

Eating too much, and in partiular some of the foods that we subsist on- high energy processed foods is some of the worst things you can do to yourself. Smoking and drinking are often to blame, but the effects of eating can jeopardize your health just the same- why wouldn't it? This is the fuel that your cells get energy from and the basis from which your body replenishes and reproduces from. You wouldn't necessarily drink a chemical dye on its own, but you consume it anyway when it's put in foods to make it look appealing.





That makes no sense. There really is something wrong with that statement. Now, in the past, people didn't live long enough to get some of these conditions, it's true. They weren't being felled by a lot of the condtions that people have now, it was something else doing it- like primitive medical attention, being worked to death, and so on. But how you go from that to believing that processed foods are suddenly ok is not a good conclusion.

I don't propose a cause and effect relationship, otherwise I would get some health problem the moment I smoked one cigarrette or ate a single Twinkie - there's also other things, like your overall living habits, genetics and so on, which combined aggravates one another. But doing that consitently, as people tend to do over the course of several years- the damage to your body accumulates. If you want to age faster and physically look older your chronological age, then that's what you want to do- eat these foods as often as possible, and try and get as little exercise as possible.

As anyone heard of this place in Las Vegas- The Heart Attack Grill? People have actually had heart attacks right there and then sitting and eating one these ridiculous hamburgers. Their mascot actually died within the last couple of months from a heart attack at the restaurant in front of customers. It's your metabolism and your immune system's ability to absorb the damage and keep cancer and other disease held in check- but when you damage those things with poor eating, you're going to become more susceptible. Maybe not now or tommorow, but sooner rather than later.

http://www.ktnv.com/news/local/131497278.html

If I were to do it, I would feel like crap afterwards, but I probably wouldn't have a heart attack, I'm not ashamed to say I'm quite healthy and fit. But someone more or less eats like that all the time and doesn't get much exercise, well they increase the odds. This is not some weird agenda, this not ignorance due to not living in the country, whatever that means, this what people do to their bodies. It's like the old maxim "You are what you eat." You really are- you eat junk, and that's what your body replenishes itself with, that's the fuel for your cells, and yet people still think that there's no correlation there at all.