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#3568051 - 05/05/12 09:43 PM
Re: My Issues with DCS:P-51/World
[Re: Smokin_Hole]
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Old Guy
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I'll chime in.
I have an ATI Radeon HD6970 and have never noticed any black arc shaped flashes at the top of the screen in DCS A-10C or DCS P-51D.
DCS P-51D runs a lot better then A-10C does on my machine. Probably 20 FPS better. Have not flown the SU-25T yet. I can't comment on the G940 bug since I don't have one.
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#3568057 - 05/05/12 10:03 PM
Re: My Issues with DCS:P-51/World
[Re: Smokin_Hole]
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Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 4325
Loc: Vancouver, BC
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This is the frustration of communicating via forum. And I admit that perhaps I am grammatically challenged and maybe don't express myself at all clearly.
I am not listing gripes that I expect ED to "fix". I am listing gripes which I'd like to learn are either unique to me or are shared by other players. What I was hoping for from the responses is, "yep, that's my experience too" or "sorry man, runs better than WH on my system".
Regarding the "reversal bug": I clearly stated that it is a known Logitech issue. I don't expect ED to fix a poorly designed piece of third party hardware. Having said that, the problem for me is multiplied by a factor of 10 in the P-51D. So there is something unique in how inputs are implemented in this new product. In IL2, LOMAC, FC1, FC2, DCS: BS, DCS:BS2, DCS: WH, and Rise of Flight; the reversal bug exists. But in those products we are talking a 1 or 2 percent skip. It is minor to the point of being easily ignored unless you happen to fly for a virtual aerobatic team. In the P-51D, the skips are 5-10 percent and impossible to ignore. I don't expect ED to do a thing. It's not their problem. But what I hoped to see was, again, something like, "dude, I have a g940 and I don't observe any of the behavior you describe". Then I know that I must change something on my end.
Look, I know all about the desire to defend a product one cares about. I was once a core beta tester for Rise of Flight and made literally thousands of posts explaining and defending that product. Try to read what I am writing and not pre-judge my motivations doing so. Yep, my experience too, re:black arcs but my frames are good - ATI6970. No troubles with my old skool MS SW II though lol Defensiveness doesn't do any community any favors - where people don't even feel comfortable even asking if others see the same bugs is more of a cult than a club  It's ok to be a fan or support where you work but if the communication is 'good news only' then it'll turn people off.
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#3568070 - 05/05/12 11:05 PM
Re: My Issues with DCS:P-51/World
[Re: Smokin_Hole]
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Registered: 07/30/09
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Lucky and Fearless,
Thanks! That's exactly what I was looking for. I run an iMac with a mobile 6970m card which struggles at the high native resolution of the screen. The is something about the P-51 that really seems to piss that computer off.
Edited by Smokin_Hole (05/05/12 11:06 PM)
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#3568075 - 05/05/12 11:18 PM
Re: My Issues with DCS:P-51/World
[Re: Smokin_Hole]
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Registered: 01/08/09
Posts: 4325
Loc: Vancouver, BC
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Cool, maybe the iMac struggles cpu-wise? It might not be something they test with. On the bright side ED already had an updated build, and from previous experience are responsive to bugs/performance so I'm sure during beta things will get better as we go along.  The DCS World concept is really exciting and hopefully we'll see some really nice new modules. A great time for PC sims really..
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#3569615 - 05/08/12 04:42 PM
Re: My Issues with DCS:P-51/World
[Re: Smokin_Hole]
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Registered: 07/30/09
Posts: 561
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The current beta is running fine. I can't say its an improvement but I am flying happily enough within the confines of my performance. This basically means using the smaller airfields so that hanger textures don't bog dowm my system.
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#3569675 - 05/08/12 07:19 PM
Re: My Issues with DCS:P-51/World
[Re: Smokin_Hole]
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Registered: 08/13/11
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A thought just struck me - the "arcs" you mention, are they present specifically in the top right of the screen?
Because if so, it's a known bug that is being investigated, but it's not actually AMD-specific. It happens on nVidia GPU's too. From what I understand it's linked to the re-make of the radio communication dialog system.
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#3569743 - 05/08/12 10:24 PM
Re: My Issues with DCS:P-51/World
[Re: Smokin_Hole]
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Registered: 07/30/09
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I'll need to be more observant. I haven't seen them yet with the new beta. I still see plenty of black flickers when looking near the sun but that is less persistent and bothersome than the arcs.
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#3570024 - 05/09/12 12:55 PM
Re: My Issues with DCS:P-51/World
[Re: Smokin_Hole]
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Registered: 06/16/09
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Loc: Southeastern PA
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I saw some sploches in the upper right corner of the screen. I don't know if this is what you are describing, but, to me, it looked like there was an attempt to write some text or something up there. It's in the same place where text messages in WH are displayed. As far as performance goes, I'd say it is not as smooth as the WH, but the set up panel was NOT exactly the same as what I am used to seeing in WH. But I have everything pulled all the way to the right (except for birds, which I have at 100%) and it runs pretty smooth. Edit: This is my experience with the old Beta. I have not loaded the new one yet. Edit 2: Added NOT above.
Edited by Goblin (05/09/12 02:36 PM)
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#3570046 - 05/09/12 01:33 PM
Re: My Issues with DCS:P-51/World
[Re: Smokin_Hole]
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Registered: 10/07/08
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Yes, Nvidia, and I see them. Different configurations each flight, but what looks like a messed up message.
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#3570153 - 05/09/12 04:42 PM
Re: My Issues with DCS:P-51/World
[Re: EtherealN]
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Registered: 05/24/01
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Loc: Dublin, Ireland
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A thought just struck me - the "arcs" you mention, are they present specifically in the top right of the screen?
Because if so, it's a known bug that is being investigated, but it's not actually AMD-specific. It happens on nVidia GPU's too. From what I understand it's linked to the re-make of the radio communication dialog system. No it is something different, the black sun arcs are a specific driver issue with ATI 6970s IIRC. It was introduced after Catalyst 11.6 I believe. Nate
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