thought you guys might like this.

The coolest feature is the wheel mount has a VESA Pattern for you flight simmers... so you can mount a 4th display to the wheel mount, angle it how you want it!

Chris Dunagan is THE MAN!

Available in about 2-3 Months here in the US!

Obutto R3Volution Cockpit - http://www.mainperformancepc.com/Obutto-R3Volution-Gaming-Cockpit-p/or3v1.htm











Features...

- real car sports seat with a slight tilt
- very stable steel frame with 2mm thick walled tubing
- fully articulating keyboard & mouse tray for optimal positioning
- includes a self adhesive mouse pad material for covering all of keyboard & mouse tray
- separate monitor stand to accommodate any monitors from 19" to 55"
- main monitor mount has fully articulating arm with appx 25cm of travel
- foot or pedal tray with angle & over 20cm of distance adjustability
- tall shifter mount to accommodate major H-pattern shifters
- steering wheel mount is pre-drilled for major controllers
- steering wheel mount is pre-drilled with 75x75 & 100x100 VESA bolt patterns so displays
can be mounted
- steering wheel mount is height, distance and tilt adjustable
- includes a 1.5mm thick self adhesive neoprene for steering wheel mount & pedal tray
(this softens the interface between the controllers and the steel mount)
- hidden wire management through the front spine of the cockpit

Approx. USD$699.99 + Shipping

Cool. Which raises the question... Which Rudder pedal sets will fit into this one?

All of them It is plenty wide now to accommodate almost everything known on the market today. I say almost because I obviously cant know everything. :-)

Like it! Triangles add rigidity. Screen stand is detached from the base? Should remove any shaking transferred from wheel to the screens. The pedal base, I wonder how fast it can be removed, to make room for steering pedals.

It is detached, yes.

Pedal tray should be removable quite easily. I do not have one (Yet) but it is on it's way.

Looks great!

Glad to see Chris takes users ideas on board for constant improvement!

Maybe I'll "upgrade" to this at Christmas and sell the old one and get plenty of legroom for my pedals.

Do you know is the seat position any further back this time? It was only ever possible to use it all the way back with a triple setup otherwise being too close to the monitors gives sore eyes.

Also are existing joystick mounts able to fit in the new design? I've cut mine down to a circle for the Warthog.

With the display stand free from the base, you could in theory put the chair on one side of the room and the display on the other side.

That looks great. Link seems down though.

Picture 3 looks to be definitely attached to the front section with no resting on the ground.

Should be ok mine is usable just would be nice to be able to slide back.

The monitor mount & stand is completely detached from the main cockpit.

The link should be working again, we changed the product code and forgot to add a 301 redirect. Sorry for that

Ahh now I can see the chair attached to the pedal and wheel mount bars not the monitor stand! Awesome design, truly.

Would it be possible to buy an upgrade package and apply these improvements to our current older Obutto setups ?

I definately like the improvements, not sure I can justify another Obutto.

It's a change to the frame so I don't think so. Also I enquired about buying individual monitor base and the price and shipping is too much.

Cheapest option I'm hoping for is sell existing Obutto (maybe $400) and buy new one.

But I want another years use first and time for the reviews of this one to flow through before I do. Plus I need to save up for these: http://www.vkb-flightsimcontrols.com/produkt/gallery.php

Looks good, but seems to lack the old "work table" mode that made the pit more of a multi-purpose affair. I'm very much looking forward to a review, preferably by guod, as he could compare it to the older model.

As long as it doesn't come with some new must-have features, I'll stick with mine. The only reason to upgrade I can see so far would be the possible use of pedals superior to my current CH ones. Taipan, that VKBs sure look nice as hell...

It looks like it does have the swing in "table" if that is what you mean, check out the first and fourth pictures but it looks smaller than the current one. I like the fact that you can go big on the monitors for the stand.

And it still has the wheel mount so theoretically you could mount any custom table there.

Those pedals do look nice, but the height is an issue on top of the width for the old Obutto.

Even my Simpeds are very tight to workaround the space so they will benefit too until I wear them out.

Pretty excited about this product hitting the market. I've been wanting one of these set-up's for years with triple monitors and mounted hardpoints for my HOTAS.

I'm planning on mounting a 22" Acer touchscreen on the centre wheel mount as it's a VESA plate, and run 3 X 27" 1080p monitors in Eyefinity.

Is there anyone on these forums that currently run a system like this? How do you find it? Was it worth the cash for you?

Well word on the street is late July deliveries. So I guess it's time to start buying the gear.

Rather well-hidden on the Obutto homepage (didn't notice the lack of site navigation due to flashblock for a while)...





Really looking forward to this one!

Hi Deigs. Look through this thread. Lots of what you're asking about from the 1st Obutto.
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3102106/

I am running this exact setup with the previous Obutto model, I plan to upgrade to the new one though.

Pictures of that setup can be seen here: Click me!

^Only issue with that setup is it looks like you had to do some custom work, yes?

I'm starting to budget out mine. I figure I'll do something like a 30" screen flanked by twin portrait monitors, like this:
http://www.digitaltigers.com/zenview-powertrioultraelite.asp

I love eyefinity, but three 1080 screens get too stretched at the far edges, and don't offer enough vertical visability in tiles like DCS and RoF. I figure that setup gives the best of all worlds; Enough horizontal view for immersion, and enough verticale for combat

Personally, I'd be looking to use mine for Flying, racing, and general gaming. Biggest Issue I see there is swapping out saitek combat pedals for my Fanatec set.

The only custom work I've done is cutting the stick holder, cutting and drilling the speaker holders and the wooden backplate. Nothing that can't be done in a motivated afternoon with some basic power tools. If you are on a budget, you might want to consider this, because when the R3volution comes out, the oZone will go down in price even more.

But yes, the pedal space of the new model is far superior and the mounts for basically everything are more flexible. But I still have to figure out yet how to mount my speakers to the R3volution.

Well the 27" monitors arrived this week and they are much bigger then I released, and there's 3 of them! I also have a HP 21.5" 1080p touchscreen for Helios.
At the moment I'm waiting for a ATi 7970HD card to arrive to power them all.

Bring on the r3volution!!!! I need somewhere to hang these things. They are taking up too much room on the desk.

I have the Warthog HOTAS and some Saitek Combat Pedals ready to go.

I will also get a Track IR5 (my TIR4 is on the frits) and a Buttkicker.

Might need to overclock my old i7 920 CPU as she's been stock for the last 2+ years.

I've been OC'ing my i7 920 for about 2 and a half years now at 3.5Ghz with no issues.

Got mine up at 4.3 and rock solid!! It's a cracking chip! Was going to upgrade to an Ivy Bridge but there isnt really a major perf increase. Going to wait for the 4th gen i7!!

BR

Rich

R3volution Pre-order paid for and ready to go. Got myself a Buttkicker and a Track IR5 for a bit of fun. Gonna be a long month of waiting I think.

Well the best I can do on overclocking the i7 with a Zalman aftermarket air cooler is 3.7GHz. She's stable and I ran IntelBurnTest for 2 hrs to check 100% loads and the resulting temperatures/stability. Maxed out at 91 degrees during load tests and about 55 degrees in DCS everything MAX'ed. Getting continuous 60 frames with vsync. Happy days!

A good base for triple monitoring in the very near future.

I want one. The movable trays are too cool.

Anyone else pre-order this thing?

Looks nice, triple monitors the way to go.

hey fellas, sry for not checking in for so long but been crazy busy getting the r3volution out heh!

Anyhow, re some of the questions earlier in the thread:

1. Yes we will make the new fully articulating keyboard tray, and the floor monitor stand + new triple mounts available as accessories to oZone cockpit owners The new keyboard tray also has a self adhesive mouse pad material that is not so sticky so it can easily be replaced once it wears out. We will also try to have these made for the oZone keyboard trays as they are a different shape.

2. Re if the r3volution still offers good use as a workstation, ABSOLUTELY and even better than the oZone in many ways. Instead of one acrylic tabletop (like on the oZone) the r3volution has two fully articulating tabletops. These tabletops can be pulled right up in front of you and then tilted if you choose to do so. Also, they have holders on the bottom of the tabletops to hold peripherals or other mobile gadgets when tilted. This also comes in handy when playing flight sims or racing sims as you now have a place to put your keyboard tray to the left or in a position higher up and more in your line of sight. Furthermore, the main monitor mount has a fully articulating arm which will allow the user to pull the monitor closer to them if need be....we've had many requests for something like this from our customers who are also graphics designers and architects.

Hope this provides more info on the new cockpit Sorry to have the price so much higher on this cockpit but it's a major PIA to make with all those welds & crazy angled cuts!! For all of those that pre-ordered in AU/NZ, EU & US we will have some instructional vids going up on the YouTube by tomorrow. Should make assembly easier for everyone

Thanks to all those that pre-ordered, we REALLY appreciate your support!!

Best regards,
Chris Dunagan

**EDIT** oOps I forgot to mention, we are working on a prototype yoke mount that will utilize the centre stick mounting post (ie coming up from the bottom between the users legs. This would free up the main mount for instrument displays or whatever else the user has for instruments. Should be finished with the prototype and testing by next weekend.

**EDIT 2** I just wanted to mention, with all the sim pilots in here, as many of you probably already know the China aviation industry is booming and is still in it's infancy or near non-existence with VERY little airspace open for general aviation. The govt, govt companies, and private companies are therefore doing all they can to promote aviation in schools across the country....they are even discussing offering flying at a primary level to get young Chinese interested. They are also planning to offer it throughout secondary schooling and University as a profession. All of this really excites me as I'm very keen on aviation and have been pretty much my whole life.

Anyhow, we are really excited about a new relationship we have with China's largest simulation manufacturer. They mfg the uber simulators for military & commercial aviation but are using our cockpits across China for promoting aviation to the youths in this country. Along with that company we have supplied at least 4 other flight schools that have opened the past year and each have over 30 cockpits teaching "flying 101" on pc sims to secondary (middle school & high school) students & young adults. It TRULY makes me happy to be a small part of giving so many young people here a glimpse of the awesome'ness of aviation.

Sorry for taking up space but just wanted to share

Great news regarding offering different parts of the Revolution as add on accessories to the OZone. I will absolutely be ordering those to improve my Ozone. Thanx a million! Quick question, I'm assuming the flight stick and throttle mounts are interchangeable between the two types?

hey Bohemond, ya we did change the flight stick mount a bit for the r3v cockpit in terms of height and distance from the user, but it is basically the same. Either will work as they come with their own mounting posts which will bolt up to either cockpit.

Would love to see an up close picture of those HOTAS mounts as I've ordered some but haven't seen them yet.

Also the triple monitor mounting arms, do you find any alinement issues with the weight of the side monitors? I've got 3x27" and just wondering about how it'll mount.

Congrats on the R3volution, it looks amazing!

Hi Deigs

Do you have a Warthog?

There's a few picture of the stick mount modified cut to exact size in another thread.

I did the same mod and cut the pole to make it as low as possible also.

I think I'll cut mine to fit the warthog. Just wondered how different the new R3volution ones were from the Ozone mounts.

Deigs, I believe the stock photos used on the obutto site have triple 27" monitors on the R3volution.

Love it, someone post a review of this beast soon. It says below the gallery on their site, 27 inch monitors:

http://www.obutto.com/gallery_r3volution.html

Very good review, I enjoyed that video.

That's a very thorough review, a nice read!

I was going to post that link, nice review from the AB guy. Nice and clean, R3volution looks sick.

Here I'm sitting in my living room boxes and bubble wrap every where and I'm trying to piece the R3Volution together. However I didn't get far due to there being hardware missing. It's a known issue and is being addressed. Too bad as I was hoping to get this thing together and turn some laps in it today.

Oh well crap happens.

Not missing any hardware, updated hardware listing below.

What's missing?

Are they fixing it with all suppliers?

I'm missing bolts and the issue has been reported back to Obutto. Main Performance PC is addressing their orders, no idea about other suppliers.

UPDATE: Not missing any hardware, updated hardware listed below.

The r3v flight stick & throttle mount are the same really, just changed the overall height (which anyone could do with a hacksaw anyways by cutting down the inserting pipe. We do plan on making an A-10 specific mount in the near future (prob by Christmas) which will be similar to the ones you've seen in here that peeps have modded, like Taipan mentioned. Also, we may have the yoke mount (coming out of the centre stick mounting post) as an accessory by Dec as well.

RE the side monitors, yes we used super heavy custom made 27's in our pics, and I mean super heavy as they have no plastic but use metal casing's. Of course these make the side monitor mounts sag some but there are height adjustments on each VESA mount so you can get them equal. Just put your middle monitor in the lowest setting and then the side monitors on higher settings......ck out the r3v triple mount video along with rest of our assembly videos on our site through the FAQ page. Here is a link to the page: r3v Assembly VIDS

*****VERY IMPORTANT***** If you purchased a r3v cockpit, please watch the assembly videos as we made changes to the packaging last minute, so the instructions that come with the cockpit don't jive as we pre-assembled certain parts that we didn't originally plan too. Also, some hardware may appear to be missing if you do a bolt count compared to the instructions, just know the instructions do not reflect an accurate amount of bolts as some are already assembled. Lastly, there is a typo that says to use 8ea M8x15mm in the first step, it should read use M8x16mm bolts.......sorry for the confusion It will be fixed for the next shipments to distributors.


****EDIT**** ok below is what bolts should be included with your cockpit (ie the correct bolt count)


r3volution main cockpit hardware - current batch


Socket Cap Head bolts:

M8x16mm = 10ea (8ea for centre spine, 2ea for front of pedal tray)
M8x20mm = 10ea (4ea for steering mount, 4ea for keyboard tray)
M8x45mm = 24ea (could be 2ea more for surprise cup holder)
M8x80mm =10ea



Hex Head bolts (for mounting seat only):

M8x45mm = 4ea



For attaching monitors to VESA plates:

M4x7mm = 4ea
M4 flat washer = 4ea



Nuts, washers:

M8 nuts: 44ea to 50ea
M8 spring washer & flat washer: 44ea to 50ea



For hard mounting controllers (prob did not make it into your boxes):

M6x15mm = 6ea

Hi Chris,

Do u have a more concrete idea of when these are going to be available in Europe , it's all a bit sketchy from beginning of sep to mid october, I appreciate it's difficult to be precise but would sometime in September be reasonable to expect , Ive held off on the ozone till i got the pc I wanted etc now I want the cockpit and with the new version coming I'm getting itchy fingers on grabbing an ozone as they appear to be in stock and I dont want to be continually waiting for the new one ! Arghhhmto many choices !

Adam

Hey Adam, thanks for your interest man We loaded the EU container around 7-10 days ago, and as far as i know the vessel departed around the last few days and it takes around 40-45 days to arrive in Portugal if memory serves correctly. Therefore, you're looking at early Oct. We had some delays on our side (didn't have enough triple's or flight stick mounts in stock) so please don't hold our distributor to blame as they originally had it planned to be there around mid'ish Sept, but due to our delays it will be early Oct....very sorry for makin ya wait man

Best regards,
Chris

Thanks mate, aprpreciate that

Can't wait, hoping to secure a R3volution in the near future.

Review on evga if you missed it http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1710712&mpage=1

Great news that us ozone users can upgrade. I want to get everything but the seat. Is this possible ? Can the ozone chair be mounted to the revo frame ? Are the upgrades going to be sold as individual items or a package ? When will the upgrades be available for purchase in the US, I would buy it today if available.

Personally I would need everthing but the seat and the 2 mounts for the HOTAS. Could I just purchase the revo minus these items at a discount ? I would like to add an extra keyboard articulating arm to run 2 articulating keyboard trays.

Also, have you thought of a future addition of making the HOTAS mounts articulating like the keyboard tray ?

Sorry for the storm of questions BTW.

Hi, before securing my order for the r3volution with triple screen, I would like to see some pictures with hotas and I would like to know the dimensions minimun and maximum mostly the length with the triple screens (with 3 screens of 27").
I would like as well to have the link to the actual pdf of the user manual. I checked already the videos for putting the cockpit together.

Final question how to be sure to be part of the first delivery in Europe? Drop an e-mail to the European distributor?
Thanks in advance.

Sagal, after I build mine I'll upload a few photos. It'll have the warthog hotas, 3x27" monitors, a touchscreen and a few other goodies.

Hey Skoop, it will be upto to the distributors on whether they sell the r3volution cockpit without the seat, so it's best to check with them. I kind of doubt it though as they can't really sell the seats they have left over. Your existing HOTAS mounts will fit the r3volution frame.

As far as the r3v keyboard tray & r3v free standing monitor stand accessories, they will not be available in US until Christmas time. We simply did not make any extra's in our first production run and will not be making another run until Oct'ish, but then it comes down to when the distributors order, and shipping times.

Re using articulating arms for the HOTAS mounts, I doubt they could be made stable enough.

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Hey Sagal, here is a quick pic of the r3v with an older X-52 setup from our site, and obviously centre stick. Easy to run side stick though r3v with HOTAS

The pics of the r3v on our site are with triple custom made 27'ers and right now I have around a 40'ish deg angle on the side monitors so it puts the total width at around 160cm.

Re getting a cockpit in EU, yes contact the EU distributor EU Distributor

Just a quick iPhone happy snap after 10+ hrs of unpacking, building, tinkering with one of these things. Its taking a lot longer then I thought.

Still got a few things to bolt on, drill and affix but this is a big project, time for a break.

It's intimidating, awesome, heavy, and a lot of fun to use. I think tweeking these things to get the right set up is a hobby in itself.

Quick question Deigs, that central screen attached to the wheel mount, how much tilt can you get out of the VESA mounting? Close to vertical or is that as far as it goes? I'm also thinking if a Helios touchscreen instrument panel is possible with the R3vo. I'm sure more pics will follow once you are done, could you concentrate some on the touchscreen mount and the stick/throttle mounts?

Also thinking of how to (center) mount a WH with a stick shaft extension, but that will have to be a custom job in order to get the base of the stick low enough... And I don't know if the touchscreen will get in the way of full forward stick throw... Or the seat cushion with back stick. After using the extension I can't imagine going back to flying with just my wrist, unless it's a side mount.

You can go full vertical if you wanted.



The touch panel is possible, I'm rocking a 22" HP Compaq L2206tm touch screen panel, running Helios for DCS-10C using Cpt Loz's Profile. Highly recommended addition for DCS users.



Here is a few pics of the joystick centre mounting. I'm going to mod mine so it fits just the round base of the Warthog, and also toying with ideas how I can lower the stick, and then have a extension installed.

Glad to hear you rec'd it Deigs, and looking forward to seeing it setup with all your kit! Thanks for your support man

Re using the yoke/steering wheel mount for a centre (4th display). You can attach the mounting plate upside down which gives any angle you like, including perpendicular to the ground. Furthermore, if you see yourself using this mount for something else you can attach the display to one of the tabletop arms, remove the mount (slide it all the way out) and then articulate it into the centre position when needed and off to the side when you need to use the mount for something else.

The latter may depend on the controllers you are using and where you place them though. Just throwing this out there to consider trying

Just like with the oZone I wanted the r3v to be mod'able and imho it is more so.

Thanks Deigs and Chris for the replies, this looks like tweaking could be as fun as using...

Deigs, I'm also a Loz profile user so this is exactly what I was looking for!

Got to think of a way to attach the tabletop arms to the side of the seat base, two more touchscreens and you have physical side panels instead of relying on the drop down ones on the forward screen (I don't use a triple display so it may be possible).

Just looking at that stick mount, if you cut it down to just the initial vertical bit and flipped it 180 degrees it might lower the mount enough for a stick extension to be feasible? May require some new holes to mount the WH canister in the new spot though?

One of the guys (film?) from scsimulations mounted his side panel monitors with ergotron monitor mounts. I own a few of these and I think with some creative welding and a few bolts and you could get the to work. But mounting any more stuff to the chair would make it quite hard to get in and out of the thing. Throttle and the keyboard seem to take up most of the room. My Limited Edition cup holder is still waiting for an opening. Probably never will hold a beer in anger, poor little thing. But thats entirely because of my seat placement. I'll keep tinkering when I get home next weekend.

My joystick mount mini project will have to wait till I can get a good stick extender. But its still awesome to hard mount your HOTAS to the frame. Really adds to the immersion.

I'm so close to pulling the trigger here... almost went with the Ozone when it came out, but it wasn't adjustable enough. The Rev seems like it solves all of these problems. The $200 shipping cost is more than a bit painful, though.

Two questions that aren't obvious from the pictures and documentation I've seen so far:

- Is the seat back angle adjustable like it is in the oZone?
- How close can you practically get the monitor (single monitor config) to one's head?

The former isn't as important as the latter... I use a 26" monitor and need to sit fairly close to it, preferable within 24" nose to screen.

The center screen mount does articulate closer to the user, not sure by how much but it wouldn't be an issue. Plus you can scoot the chair forward and The monitor stand is free moving.

So you can put a screen in front of your nose if you like.

Also chair folds back and forward just like a car seat. Just like the Ozone.

A question to Obutto.
A reviewer pointed out a stability issue with the triple screen mount and you mentioned that the new deliveries will fix the problem by increasing the length of the bottom bars if I have understood correctly.
What is the situation for the first shipment in Europe? Did you fix this issue already for this shipment? If not do you have any plans to fix it before delivery to the customers that have already ordered in Europe?

Hey Sagal,

Ya I'm pretty sure that reviewer later realized he did not insert his mounts into the legs all the way. I've been using the r3v monitor stand for the past 1.5yrs (the first prototype) and the monitors are not going anywhere. Just don't use the plastic knobs on the legs and you'll be gravy.

On the next production run I plan to make the monitor stands base runners 10cm longer towards the rear so folks don't get the heebie jeebies....I kept them shorter for looks, and tbh they are fine as is....the stand is separate (ie not attached to the cockpit) so there is no shaking or anything that will knock your monitors over.

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Hey Capt Hook, yes the seat is fully adjustable and yes the monitor stand is free standing so you can place it wherever you like. Also, the main monitor is on a fully articulating arm so if you do graphics work or something where you sometimes need to have the monitor even closer, you can just pull it closer to you and then return it back without moving the whole stand.

Ck out Youtube as I've put a few vids up that used to be unlisted. Search for "obutto r3volution" and the vids are called Introducing the obutto r3volution or something like that and you'll find them

Thanks Deigs and obutto. Ordered it Saturday, god help me. :-)

I think there's only 5 left at MPC, so don't wait too long if you're on the fence, or you'll be waiting for the next shipment.

Would it be possible to buy only the monitor stand as 3-screen configuration? (Europe, the Netherlands)

Thanks for your support Capt Hook Remember, please watch the assembly videos as our written instructions are incorrect. We changed a bunch of the packaging last minute and did not have time to re-print instructions.

http://www.obutto.com/r3v_assembly_videos.html

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Hey JAMF, the r3v monitor stand & triple mounts will be available in the future as an accessory, probably around Christmas time at the earliest. We will have them made and boxed by Nov but it really comes down to when your region's distributor places their order.

That sounds good.

Nice one Hook. You'll love it. If you can get another person to help you during the initial parts of essembly, the chair bolt part and bolting the monitors. Everything else is easy but time consuming. The videos were great.

One part I struggled with was the multi monitor arms, and the metal cylinders and bolt sitting between the 2 arms. My bolts and the cylinder were rusted together but with some Knocks, swearing and hard work they came undone. No worries in the end.

I think I might have ruptured something pulling the big square box into the house.

I'm not using the triple monitor mount, but I did get the acrylic tables and joystick addition. May have to rig something up on the left... right now I use the Warthog base for throttle, and a CH Quadrant for mixture, prop, and radiator axis. I need 'em fairly close together, but not too close. The acrylic tables will likely hold the headphone amp and XBox.

Moving my old table out and disconnecting everything is the first job, and that's hard enough. Bloody pit should have come with a set of construction gnomes.

Question for diegs... where did you mount the keyboard tray? If on the left, did you mount it farther to the rear of the shifter mount? I've got a similar setup, where I need the hog throttle on the left and the joystick either centered or right mount. I've got the acrylic tables as well as the extra joystick add on, but I'm not sure of the most efficient arrangement.

Help me, obi wan!

My keyboard is mounted on the right. My seat is all the way back and I'm using the last holes for the keyboard. Throttle is on the left and I think is a bit forward from the rear mounting holes. Hope that helps.

Oh boy. I might have to this even though I have ghettos ozone. Guess I'll be selling it! That review on the Evga forum convinced me mainly because jt was by an owner of the ozone, and he did a great job of explaining th e differences.

I'll do a better video soon. With a review of the Obutto and a decent walk around.

Cockpit layout version one:


Other Side:


Probably going to shift the keyboard tray to the right side, move the hog stick to center, put the quadrant where the hog throttle is right now and mount the throttle right behind it using the other joystick platform.

Works great, went together great, incredible product. Some random notes on build and wishes:

- Getting the spine lined up was kind of a bear. Curse and beat on it enough and it will go together.
- Only potentially serious issue was a burr or hole cut line on one of the vertical posts that make up the main monitor mount. They're tight fits into the arm mount tubes, and one of the wouldn't go without some mallet work.
- Seat is taking a bit of breaking in. If you have a 28" waste you won't need a break in period.
- Adjustability is incredible, but would pay for more articulation in the joystick mounts. Aside from the three joystick mounts (well, two mounts and the H shifter mount that comes with the base kit), you can't really get anything into the important low empty space between the kneecaps and the bottom edge of the monitor.
- Positive locks for the screen tilt and acrylic side tables would be nice. You have to just honk down on the screws to lock those three things into place now, and it would be nice if there was a stop or other hard object you could put in there.
- Would have also paid extra for pre-drilled joystick mounts. Got it done and done cleanly, but metal drilling isn't my forte.
- Needs a relief tube option. Well, not really... but once your in the pit and flying you just don't want to get out.

You just can't go wrong with this for the price. Hell, twice the price.

And yes, that's a freshly squeezed Margarita in the cup holder. Cheers, Obutto!

Looks great mate!

I'm curious as to how solid the HOTAS mounts are. It seems like they , or at least the stick, would be prone to rotating from side forces. Does the knob provide sufficient clamping force to prevent that play?

Absolutely. When the knobs are tightened, nothing moves (joystick, throttle...)

The new Obutto R3Volution Gaming Cockpit is reviewed by Stephanie *Panther* Lessentine

http://www.simhq.com/_technology3/technology_184a.html

It would be nice if you could actually stock your advertised items. A $1200 purchase ready to be submitted and all you have out of the 5 items are the controller addon...

Spending said amount and waiting atleast a month for the items to be even stocked is not condusive to good business.

If you'd been faster you could have gotten in on the first production run. I bought mine from MPPC and hit 3 days later. However, you do get a benefit for your wait... Chris is incorporating various small improvements in the design from our feedback.

Deig thanks for you pictures and feedback.
My first impression:I'm certainly among the first European customers to have received the R3volution.
Putting everything together:effectively between 10 hours and 12 hours
Two pieces were bended at reception: one of the attachment part of the left half of the front cockpit (I hammered it a bit and after screwing it, it is fine) and the metallic plate supporting the main monitor (one half of it is slightly bended but I managed to redress it)
The long screws of the cup holder and the ones for stabilizing the bottom part of the pedal tray are missing or I use the screws of the cup holder I miss 4 screws for the main mount and still 2 for the pedal tray. I used finally the longest screws for the main mount.
Idea for improvement: separate the screws, bolts and sping washers by size, it will help for QC and for the end user.

I need as well longer screws for the VESA 100x100mm than the original ones (M4-0.7 x 12mm) as the Asus VG278H has a specific fixation support. I have to find and buy 10mm longer screws i.e M4-0.7 x 20mm). Pay attention to the thread size of the screw (0.7mm) as an usal one will damage the monitor (it will be difficult to remove from the triple screen stand after).
General first impression: it is solid and well built but perfectible.
I will use it for combat fligh sims, fps, race sims and office work. Usually my pattern is 18 months flight simulation and 6 months racing simulation and from now on, there will always be fps in 3D surround at the same time.
Therefore I can already tell that for the ones that are essentially flight simmers and fps, the cockpit is not optimally designed. Because of the fps part, I left the cockpit tray to the left as I need to use the right mount for the mouse (alternately I can use the right optional table tray but it is slightly too higth to my taste specially considering one to two hours of intensive mouse use). The joystick is therefore in the middle mount part (in the middle of the chair, which is as well in my opinion the more natural location). That's the main inconvenience, to get seated: it is acrobatic to get there and the same is to get out of the chair.
The second concern is with the central speaker: where to put it. No problem with the subwoofer and the 4 other speakers (I bought special support for them)but for the central one, I have to find the way. Currently one option is to use the left extra table trays: it is a pity.

I will reserve my final judgment for when I buy my vesa screws and adjust my triple monitors. I really hope everything will be fine there. To be continued.

My config: i5 3570K at 4.2Ghz; G.Skill 16GB 2133; Asus: P8Z77-V PRO, SLI 2xGTX-670 DCUII T&nonT, 3xVG278H, Xonar Phoebus; Seasonic X-760W; Noctua NH-U12P SE2; Crucial m4 SSD 256GB; WD Caviar Black 2TB; Lite-On DVD+BR burner; CM Storm Trooper; Razer naga hex; TrackIR 5; Logitech: z906, Momo FF; CH: Fighterstick, proPedal, proThrottle; Obutto R3volution; Windows 7 pro 64bit

I’m reasonably satisfied.
For a flight simmer only, I would rate my previous desk 5/10 and Obutto’s one 6.5/10.

To get seated is a little bit acrobatic and basically it is more easy to remove each time the right stick before sitting (although it is doable no to so). The triple screen mount was quite difficult (and time consuming) to adjust so that the triple monitors VG278H are at the same height with the correct desired angle. I finally managed. It was much more easy to achieve that with a big desk (as VG278H have good and adjustable stands).

For a multi-sims fan (racing, combat flight sims and fps), I give a 7.5/10 rating to the cockpit. By putting my mouse in the central location and put the stick in the right location (with a little stool as rest-arm: idea for improvement for Chris), I can have the wheel drive fixed permanently. I just have to switch the pedals for flight sim or racing sims. I gain a lot of time like this and I can race more often than before.

Just wondering if the store will update early next year and display the r3v stand as a separate option?

Ordered my r3v on Monday. Can't wait!

Getting in and out of my ABC is hard on my bum knee.

I'm thinking I'll put my touchscreen on one tabletop arm and put a box containing my Aimsworth ICP, UM80's and TM MFDs on the other so I can switch between setups at will. Helios is good to use with DCS but I prefer the other stuff for Falcon.

Speaking of Falcon, does anyone think a right side mount for an FSSB will have a problem moving around? I have it set for low forces.

Will use HOTAS Warthog for DCS.

Hey Sagal, sorry i missed this back in Nov but I got caught up following the other thread. Anyhow, sorry to see you're disappointed but I'd like to make a few suggestions below:

1) re difficulty getting into the seat with centre stick. When done flying, it's best to just loosen the knob, pull the stick & mount together and lay it next to your cockpit. This gets it out of the way completely and takes only secs to put back in place. If other side mounts are getting in your way when entering or exiting the cockpit, just run your cables a different way or get cable extensions so you can loosen the knobs & swivel whatever mount out of your way when you want to get in/out....much like opening a car door.

2) Re the use of the cockpit for flight sim & fps (or general computer use), it really just depends on how much flight sim kit you have and how you utilize your mounts. If you prefer to fly centre stick, then try the keyboard tray on the right.

3) Re being able to leave your steering wheel on and still fly centre stick. For flying centre stick I'd recommend using the mounting post and the stick mount that angles your stick back towards you (it's the actual flight stick mount but I've seen some folks use the throttle mount in that location). This gives you clearance from your steering wheel as you have to slide your seat to the rear to use the centre mounted stick. Set your throttle in accordance with your seat in that position. Then when you want to race, just loosen the knob and pull the stick & mount and lay it on the floor.

4) Re getting in&out of the cockpit in general. It is best to move your seat all the way to the rear before you get out, then it makes it easier getting in. To get in, just step 1 foot in & sit down. The seat is actually high enough to do this without even putting your hands on the seat. If you have to put your hands on the seat just don't put a ton of weight on the seat back bolster tips or you could end up breaking the seat foam over time. If you do want to grab the bolster, just grab the bolster closest to the seat frame.

Also, Sagal I apologize that some of your flanges were bent. We had some poor packaging in that first batch, but have corrected it since. Thanks for the feedback though man, and hope the above assists so you can enjoy your cockpit more

Best regards,
Chris