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#3568954 - 05/07/12 03:46 PM
Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Chuck "Magnum" Ankenbauer and Doug "guod" Atkinson Preview the highly anticipated title based on Arma 2 technology. http://simhq.com/_land3/land_127a.html
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#3568960 - 05/07/12 03:56 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Oh man, am I the only one jiggling with excitement on how epic some multiplayer could be with this bad boy?  Such a great time for PC sims..
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#3568998 - 05/07/12 04:53 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Oh man, am I the only one jiggling with excitement on how epic some multiplayer could be with this bad boy?  Such a great time for PC sims.. No Mr Jiggly, you are not! Can't wait for this too  Great preview too, thanks.
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#3568999 - 05/07/12 04:54 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Oh man, am I the only one jiggling with excitement on how epic some multiplayer could be with this bad boy?  Such a great time for PC sims.. IF multiplayer coming soon to a SimHQ game server near you. 
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#3569006 - 05/07/12 05:03 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Oh man, am I the only one jiggling with excitement on how epic some multiplayer could be with this bad boy?  Such a great time for PC sims.. No Mr Jiggly, you are not! Can't wait for this too  Great preview too, thanks.  - Happy Birthday Mr Mace btw
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#3569018 - 05/07/12 05:28 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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#3569101 - 05/07/12 07:49 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Great looking game and great review. But and nevertheless I would like to know more regarding Co-op, specially which content does this game come with, namelly how many Co-op missions came originally with the game?
BTW, are you sure that the Soviet campaign isn't playable in co-op? I'm asking this because in the Soviet campaign menu screenshot in the review it's clear that the "HOST" button is selectable.
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#3569125 - 05/07/12 08:26 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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If you played ArmA2... you'll know how the co-op works... but included is 8 or so co-op plus the editor that people will make missions, just like with our ArmA2 server... we will have similar IF missions after release. and yes I'm sure... i asked that question after seeing that too... it's confirmed single player only... click on the host and you'll crash. lol 
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#3569208 - 05/07/12 11:43 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Excellent preview! A quick question though: I saw that you highlighted foxholes and entrenchments. Any chance that you can dig one on your own accord, or must it be placed there before hand by modders?
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#3569254 - 05/08/12 02:28 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Looks great, will have to get this one as well.
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#3569276 - 05/08/12 04:22 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Well, I have to say that I wasn't interested in this game in the first place. But the preview definitely makes this game sound interesting now. Will keep an eye out for this.
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#3569294 - 05/08/12 05:44 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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I can tell you...no i can´t...  i think it´s really great!
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#3569335 - 05/08/12 08:18 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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If you played ArmA2... you'll know how the co-op works... but included is 8 or so co-op plus the editor that people will make missions, just like with our ArmA2 server... we will have similar IF missions after release. and yes I'm sure... i asked that question after seeing that too... it's confirmed single player only... click on the host and you'll crash. lol Thanks for the reply Magnum! 
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#3569348 - 05/08/12 08:53 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Very comprehensive preview. Thank you for going through it. I am wondering about the scripting commands. Can we use the database of commands that we have for Arma2 OA. Is there going to be an addendum to the list:Flashpoint, Arma, Arma2, Arm2 OA? 
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#3569428 - 05/08/12 11:09 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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For sure. And a little bit more.
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#3569439 - 05/08/12 11:38 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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I love Arma. But its biggest problem, which will be more so in the WW2 version, is the armor damage model. Its hit point based instead of round size/velocity verses armor thickness/angle. Makes for some very unbelievable results.
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#3569449 - 05/08/12 11:55 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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try reading the preview first. 
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#3569481 - 05/08/12 12:52 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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As it is right now with the e.g ASR AI mod, Arma2 OA is pretty good on Artificial Inteligence level and with a little secondary scripting missions have become an enjoyable and fair challenge. It is a matter of time before Iron Front gets there if not there already. This is indeed very exciting  Thank you guys
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#3569493 - 05/08/12 01:14 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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I'm curious, they did a lot of work to improve tanks damage model, but what about the simulation and graphics? Tanks have 3d interiors? Did they changed tanks handling, aiming, etc?
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#3569500 - 05/08/12 01:25 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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interior... NO
3d... NO
Handling.... Yes and No... same principle as tank driving in ArmA2, but the handling is tuned and more realsitic... proper speeds, no more tank power slides to the extreme. lol
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#3569506 - 05/08/12 01:32 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Too bad  After playing all those flight sims with nice VCs I guess I'm biased. I just love detailed cockpits  I'll get this game anyway though.
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#3569512 - 05/08/12 01:38 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Well tank combat is very much improved over the ArmA2 series... but understand that this is NOT like SB Pro PE or Steel Fury... tank wise.  and it's also NOT a flight sim.
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#3569515 - 05/08/12 01:43 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Well tank combat is very much improved over the ArmA2 series... but understand that this is NOT like SB Pro PE or Steel Fury... tank wise.  and it's also NOT a flight sim. I am aware it's not dedicated flight or tank sim, I'm not expecting that, and I'm familiar with Arma series. 3d interiors just adds more immersion, that's why I've asked. Improved tank combat is enough to have a lot of fun.
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#3569525 - 05/08/12 02:09 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Looks very nice.
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#3569542 - 05/08/12 02:31 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Believe me, you'll not have anouth time for that - you'll use optics or binocular
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#3569938 - 05/09/12 10:46 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Looks really interesting
QUESTION:
Will I have to purchase an extra copy to host a dedicated server ?
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#3570174 - 05/09/12 05:24 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Looks great! I will be purchasing this. Hopefully a boxed version is available in the U.S.
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#3570178 - 05/09/12 05:33 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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I hope the AI will cope with the environment and new tactical options.
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#3570204 - 05/09/12 06:10 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Great preview guys! Thanks.
One of the only FPS games that lived on my PC longer than a couple of months was the Call of Duty edition (2 or 3?) where you could drive tanks for the first time. I loved those little claustrophic multiplayer tanking maps, probably because they were small enough that I could actually master the kill zones and learn where the best cover was. World of Tanks seemed like too much work, scooting around in little scouts unless you were willing to buy your way into something heavy. But this might just lure me back into the world of steel beasts...
Just one thing I could not completely glean from your piece - does it take a crew of three to man a tank in multiplayer, or can one player manage?
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#3570279 - 05/09/12 09:50 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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I think that was United Offensice Heinkill. Very cool in MP with the 'bigger ' maps and a bunch of guys that knew what they were doing.
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#3570332 - 05/10/12 12:15 AM
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Given the very large maps, dynamic AI and battlefield, how worthwhile if I were to buy this exlcusively for Single Player and Single Player Mission editing/creation ? Is there provision for the latter aspect ?
Part of the problem for me to engage in SimHQ MP is ping and timezones.
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#3570432 - 05/10/12 07:33 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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yep, they can count on me for another sale! looks brilliant.
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#3570546 - 05/10/12 11:44 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Does anyone have any details on the DRM requirement. I'm not starting a debate in any way but just hoping the game ships with built in protection and not the internet activation rout. Grateful for any info as I'd like to have this game.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards Morty
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#3570573 - 05/10/12 12:51 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Does anyone have any details on the DRM requirement. I'm not starting a debate in any way but just hoping the game ships with built in protection and not the internet activation rout. Grateful for any info as I'd like to have this game.
Thanks in advance
Best Regards Morty The Beta is the same as Arma 2. You get a long authentication number to key in while connected to the Internet for the first use, then they leave you alone.
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#3571402 - 05/11/12 07:42 PM
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Look for announcements of US sales distributors sometime next week.
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#3574554 - 05/17/12 03:40 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Can't wait to try this!
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#3574910 - 05/18/12 11:11 AM
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OH MY GAWD! This game sounds amazing! 
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#3574990 - 05/18/12 01:33 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Great article Magnum about a great game.
Just bought a brand new Mach V to play it. That's dedication!
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#3575354 - 05/18/12 10:45 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Thanks for the review. Now I know what I wanted to know, except the price. Does anybody knows how much it will cost?
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#3575355 - 05/18/12 10:46 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Thanks for the review. Now I know what I wanted to know, except the price. Does anybody knows how much it will cost? The preorder looks to be $30 https://store.bistudio.com/iron-front
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#3575363 - 05/18/12 11:06 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Thanks.  I've just finished preordering it. 29.99€ in my case.
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#3575655 - 05/19/12 03:43 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Pre-ordered mine at Amazon.co.uk for £14.95 (a bit less than 20€).
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#3575684 - 05/19/12 04:17 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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I forgot to check Amazon.  Oh well... it goes for the devs and BI. They deserve.
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#3575919 - 05/20/12 02:50 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Any plans for a SimHQ server/group similar to the MMs? I'm totally excited about this, but as I never really learned ArmA2, I'm looking for a group I can learn from.
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#3575926 - 05/20/12 03:07 AM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
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Any plans for a SimHQ server/group similar to the MMs? I'm totally excited about this, but as I never really learned ArmA2, I'm looking for a group I can learn from. Yes, Saturday AM. Exact time and starting date TBD.
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#3575944 - 05/20/12 04:42 AM
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Just pre-ordered from Play.com.£14.95 free delivery.
My only reservation is that I could not get on very well with Arma2 but the subject matter of Iron Front is what I like.
Am I likely to enjoy it I wonder?
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#3576176 - 05/20/12 01:45 PM
Re: Preview: Iron Front: Liberation 1944
[Re: guod]
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Registered: 02/23/11
Posts: 605
Loc: CA, USA
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Any plans for a SimHQ server/group similar to the MMs? I'm totally excited about this, but as I never really learned ArmA2, I'm looking for a group I can learn from. Yes, Saturday AM. Exact time and starting date TBD. WoooHoooo! Gefreiter Cheesehawk, reporting for duty sir!
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