Dammit, I missed that one! Foo'bars post didn't get me because I saw the date straight away, oh well children will be children.

Ha ha, opposite for me the Oleg got me, the Foo'bar didn't.

Sort out the mess that is originally his own making, you mean? Y'see, it was actually Oleg who was at the helm during those 7 or so years when CloD was allegedly under development, and how it finally came out under his project leadership isn't really anything to write home about (to say the least). So what good exactly do you think his involvement would do THIS time around?

I really don't think he was in there for 7 years.
Smokescreen on that.
Also I don't think he's Messias all alone but Oleg and the "old" team that I'm convinced isn't there anymore, now that would be something.

When i see posts like these, and being an old timer to the IL2 franchise (i still have the original boxed IL2) ......

I AM SO GLAD I DIDN'T BY THIS RUBBISH !!!

(how do i put flashing lights around my last sentance

How about that?

It's not rubbish by the way, it is bugged to hell for sure and needs a lot of fixing, but theres enough in it to have a lot of fun.
Try it, you might like it!

Even if Olegs return was even the smallest possibility I assume that he can still read so what could conceivably motivate him to come back ? Beyond smearing himself with salmon paste and jumping into a tank full of hungry sharks its about the daftest idea I have heard. There are BIG problems and the peasants are revolting. Hmm, sounds like a hoot.

On the current state of the game it is not pretty, but it is the first time the dev's have included players directly with a key testing phase. If anybody doesn't want to be involved in that they shouldn't apply the Beta, Alpha, whatever, or if already downloaded get Steam to verify their game files and revert back to the last Steam version. I would rather there be the opportunity for those who want to be involved to able to play a part in attempting to put this game right rather than causing so much grief that the developers do not do it again. Where it will lead neither I or anybody else knows but at least it is a chance.

I have no doubt Oleg was pursuing more financially stable interests during the last few years of COD's development. And many of the old team are still involved, baring natural turnover of personnel. I also doubt that Oleg's return would have much effect positively or negatively to the course COD will eventually take. I've never had any CTD's issues on my highly optimized system, so I still think there is hope that the code isn't completely fubar.

And i think you have the crux of the revolt right there, and the reason why i didn't purchase it and have turned my back on it after being one of the most avid fans.

We can't decide if the product as a whole is an alpha or a beta, its certainly not a finished product and it WAS SOLD AS A FINISHED PRODUCT!

The devs new it, the beta testers knew it, everyone knew it...... But yet they still sold it as a finished product for you guys to suffer with under false pretenses.

Now if they had done the DCS way, then there would be no recourse for a public revolt. Why on earth they didn't sell it as a playable alpha/beta with the guarantee of the finished product upon completion.

Bloody sad, and anyone who accepts it is a fool (IMO)

but then again, i didnt buy it, i more than likely will never buy it unless it, so perhaps i should gracefully give up and just keep the many fond years of il2.

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