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#3567645 - 05/05/12 12:39 AM Big Brother is here!
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-1009_3-57428067-83/fbi-we-need-wiretap-ready-web-sites-now/

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CNET learns the FBI is quietly pushing its plan to force surveillance backdoors on social networks, VoIP, and Web e-mail providers, and that the bureau is asking Internet companies not to oppose a law making those backdoors mandatory.
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#3567907 - 05/05/12 04:08 PM Re: Big Brother is here! [Re: Legend]
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How can they do that when these companies have international customers and doing what they want would break privacy laws in other countries besides the USA?

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#3567919 - 05/05/12 04:31 PM Re: Big Brother is here! [Re: Comacho]
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Originally Posted By: Comacho
How can they do that when these companies have international customers and doing what they want would break privacy laws in other countries besides the USA?


Since when does the US government ever care about foreign laws.
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#3567933 - 05/05/12 04:50 PM Re: Big Brother is here! [Re: Legend]
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Yea, I guess not, well, F them!

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#3567959 - 05/05/12 06:09 PM Re: Big Brother is here! [Re: Cworth]
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Originally Posted By: Cworth
Originally Posted By: Comacho
How can they do that when these companies have international customers and doing what they want would break privacy laws in other countries besides the USA?


Since when does the US government ever care about foreign laws.


Rubbish bashing of the USA.

These are US firms operating in the USA. Full stop.

Would you be as outraged if the German government stopped the hosting of a neo-Nazi site on a German ISP just because the guy that put up the site is in the USA?

Or if I went to the UK and said I wasn't subject to VAT because I'm a US citizen and we don't have that here?

If you want to plot terrorist attacks against the USA I guess you'll just have to stick to businesses that aren't actually in the USA.

Sorry for the inconvenience, but we don't like having our citizens murdered. I know this is offensive to many that think they have the right to do so and feel that it is a violation of their privacy rights to be unable to plan terrorist attacks and set up criminal enterprises but we really feel strongly about this and simply won't compromise.

But please, feel free to criticize our use of national sovereignty within our own borders. It makes you look cool and smart.
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#3567961 - 05/05/12 06:15 PM Re: Big Brother is here! [Re: Legend]
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Wow Dart... you are far of the mark in your assesment here, but there's too much emotion in your post to make it worth an argument.

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#3567979 - 05/05/12 06:51 PM Re: Big Brother is here! [Re: Comacho]
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Originally Posted By: Comacho
Yea, I guess not, well, F them!


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#3567984 - 05/05/12 07:01 PM Re: Big Brother is here! [Re: Cworth]
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Originally Posted By: Cworth

Since when does the US government ever care about foreign laws.
Yeah but...but...but..but..I thought Obama was supposed to usher in a new era of change and transparency?
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#3567995 - 05/05/12 07:22 PM Re: Big Brother is here! [Re: Legend]
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It is so hopey changey i can barely contain myself! LOL.
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#3568019 - 05/05/12 08:31 PM Re: Big Brother is here! [Re: Legend]
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How many people died from terror attacks inside the US in the last five years and how many of them had not died with internet wiretapping?

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