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#3565861 - 05/01/12 10:56 PM
Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22'
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I don't blame them. That jet has issues...
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#3565863 - 05/01/12 11:03 PM
Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22'
[Re: Kendo Nagasaki]
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I can't even begin to comprehend why there is a problem with the oxygen system in the F-22. What is it, 70 years or so since pilots have been using oxygen? Did they re-invent the wheel with the oxygen system in the F-22 or what?
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#3565870 - 05/01/12 11:24 PM
Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22'
[Re: Kendo Nagasaki]
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Not a political comment one way or the other, as this thing was developed over decades and multiple administrations, and it is hardly the only example: Military Industrial Complex.
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#3565881 - 05/02/12 12:11 AM
Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22'
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Never liked lockheed they make nice looking stuff but thats it.
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#3565895 - 05/02/12 01:26 AM
Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22'
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They are using a more compact design for the OBOGS now, and it also does some other things. Mind you, they can`t figure out why they`re having these issues either. Some people suspected that some of the problem F-22`s were started up inside a hangar, which is a no-no for an OBOGS system (it sucks in plenty of CO/CO2 AFAIK). I can't even begin to comprehend why there is a problem with the oxygen system in the F-22. What is it, 70 years or so since pilots have been using oxygen? Did they re-invent the wheel with the oxygen system in the F-22 or what?
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#3566125 - 05/02/12 11:56 AM
Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22'
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I can't even begin to comprehend why there is a problem with the oxygen system in the F-22. What is it, 70 years or so since pilots have been using oxygen? Did they re-invent the wheel with the oxygen system in the F-22 or what? no, they just screwed up the design allowing exhaust to leak into the OBOGS via bleed holes.
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#3566127 - 05/02/12 12:06 PM
Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22'
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If by that you mean 'The OBOGS is designed to be run by bleed air from the engines' ... at least AFAIK. no, they just screwed up the design allowing exhaust to leak into the OBOGS via bleed holes.
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#3566169 - 05/02/12 01:27 PM
Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22'
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If by that you mean 'The OBOGS is designed to be run by bleed air from the engines' ... at least AFAIK. no, they just screwed up the design allowing exhaust to leak into the OBOGS via bleed holes. Carbon Monoxide was leaking into the oxygen. which is basically the same as sitting in a garage with the door closed and car running. I dont think the designers planned on the aircraft being spooled up and idling inside the hanger during pre-flight, but it was having issues during flight as well.
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#3566378 - 05/02/12 06:49 PM
Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22'
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Never liked lockheed they make nice looking stuff but thats it. Yeah, they hardly ever turn out any good planes. P-38, Constellation, Hercules, U-2, SR-71. No good at all 
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