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#3572256 - 05/13/12 04:13 PM Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22' [Re: mikew]
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Originally Posted By: mikew
In 1936, the Spitfire first flew with a whole bunch of problems. Luckily, WW2 came along and nobody remembers those problems now...


EVERY plane has teething troubles, that's not really the point.
The point is - how long have we been utilizing oxygen in military aircraft now?
How much did this plane cost?


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#3572261 - 05/13/12 04:22 PM Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22' [Re: Kendo Nagasaki]
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And while the people and the government of a country seldomly ask about the price when it comes to land security and defence, the arms business somehow always manages to cash in thrice the initally announced money.

Equally strange how much 'politicians' come right from this arms business, when they suddenly feel their urge to serve the common welfare .. from Wolfowitz to Cheney.

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#3572262 - 05/13/12 04:27 PM Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22' [Re: Kendo Nagasaki]
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The point is the teething problems would disappear in an instant if the plane suddenly became vital to the survival of the nation.

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#3572265 - 05/13/12 04:30 PM Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22' [Re: Kendo Nagasaki]
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maybe - it's a silly problem to have in any case.


Edited by Gambit21 (05/13/12 04:31 PM)

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#3572478 - 05/14/12 06:01 AM Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22' [Re: mikew]
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Originally Posted By: mikew
The point is the teething problems would disappear in an instant if the plane suddenly became vital to the survival of the nation.


The development of the Me 262 deviates greatly from that notion.

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#3572616 - 05/14/12 10:39 AM Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22' [Re: LukeFF]
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Originally Posted By: LukeFF
Originally Posted By: mikew
The point is the teething problems would disappear in an instant if the plane suddenly became vital to the survival of the nation.


The development of the Me 262 deviates greatly from that notion.


Yes, but A) The jet engine isn't a new technology exceeding the contemporary limits of metallurgy and engineering in general (The YF-22 started flying in what, 1992?), and
B) The Air Force has dropped any pretenses of making the F-22 a fighter-bomber, like Hitler insisted on with the Me-262.

Apples and oranges. I agree with mikew that this is really sounding like a problem of the USAF not exactly making it a top priority- and if the Air Force is anything like the Navy, not much will change until more people start dying.
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#3572646 - 05/14/12 11:38 AM Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22' [Re: Kendo Nagasaki]
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it'll be a top priority when half of the eastern hemisphere starts pumping out T-50s, PAK-FAs in Russia, China, etc etc
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#3572649 - 05/14/12 11:46 AM Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22' [Re: SkateZilla]
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it'll be a top priority when half of the eastern hemisphere starts pumping out T-50s, PAK-FAs in Russia, China, etc etc


They don't need to. They already own a sizable amount of the worlds economy....
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#3572687 - 05/14/12 01:05 PM Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22' [Re: Kendo Nagasaki]
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western aggressors would be more than happy to erase the US from the super powers list, as we (our political/military leaders) stick our nose in everyone's business.....
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#3573817 - 05/16/12 10:32 AM Re: USAF admits some aircrew 'dont want to fly F22' [Re: Kendo Nagasaki]
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F-22 Flights restricted,

F-22 demoted from Alaska patrol Duties.

Air Force seeking help from the Navy and NASA now...

http://www.military.com/news/article/pan...m_todayinmil.nl



Edited by SkateZilla (05/16/12 10:41 AM)
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