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#3565380 - 05/01/12 01:51 AM Re: Blacksix patch update 28/4/2012 [Re: Bokononist]
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Furbs, tone it down a bit on the agressive-o-meter please, I know you guys get on but Chivas didn't write the bad game. smile

Given Ubisoft's well deserved reputation with developers it isn't impossible to imagine a scenario where a build was given to them as a publisher and they had all sorts of daft criteria to add. I've no idea if that's credible, but it is all speculation..

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#3565389 - 05/01/12 02:42 AM Re: Blacksix patch update 28/4/2012 [Re: Bokononist]
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Sorry Frog if i came across aggressive, its meant in a jokey ribbing in the pub way. smile ...im sure Chivas knows that but to anyone else who reads my post i get your point.

Must remember to add smileys. biggrin


Edited by BKHZ_Furbs (05/01/12 02:57 AM)
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#3565391 - 05/01/12 02:45 AM Re: Blacksix patch update 28/4/2012 [Re: Bokononist]
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Cheers - just don't want to scare anyone off otherwise it's just us 3 weirdos left lol smile

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#3565424 - 05/01/12 06:33 AM Re: Blacksix patch update 28/4/2012 [Re: Bokononist]
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Folklore certainly, however if a similar spirit is delaying the release i have every reason to look forward to it.
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#3565463 - 05/01/12 08:24 AM Re: Blacksix patch update 28/4/2012 [Re: Bokononist]
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What I never understand is how they 'fix' something and then something completely unrelated goes west i.e. they update the damage decals and the gunsights all turn white?

I mean is this sim coparable with the proverbial house of cards and one little tweak here and there causes the whole shebang to collapse...I mean who would write stuff to behave like that?

I've given up on this title ever being 'fixed' in that it fullfills the original concept of simulating BoB and not just one tiny little snapshot from the battle.

I still think that if someone were to combine the campaign engine from Rowan's Bob with the 'fixed' graphics of CloD then that would be something, a title worthy of being called the Battle of Britain.

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#3565466 - 05/01/12 08:28 AM Re: Blacksix patch update 28/4/2012 [Re: TangoRomeo]
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I believe UBISOFT said that they wouldn't publish COD in the west without the Epilepsy Filter.


From inside Ubi (i think even Luthier wrote this once, but not inclined to go dig banana forum, those interested will), this is not exactly what happened.

What happened is Clod failed the epilepsy tests, and would have needed some adjustments to pass it. Either 1C or MG (not known at Ubi) decided the antiepilepsy filter would do.

Another myth: "Ubi pulled out the Su26". From Oleg's mouth, 1C pulled it out. MG nor Ubi were able to oppose.

A last mostly unknown fact, again form inside Ubi: MG threatened to try Ubi for not promoting the Sim enough. Ubi threatened back to try MG for delivering a faulty product (Ubi was denied the right to test the RC) and their lawyers applied to MG the maximum penalties negociated in the distribution contract, wich made the game distribution a no loss operation for Ubi.

Now back on apr 28 update, i don't know any more what to think. I don't have a high opinion of Luthier as a boss, as many i know who worked with him once, but i'm pretty sure he really loves his current job (as Oleg did) and wishes to get the game to work properly. Has he got the right team for this ? The money to pay for the right team ? Another full time work to pay the bills while working overnight on the patch and sequel ? I really don't know, and have no hope of seeing the patch soon (or see it but with the game still broken), but can't say neither "we will have no patch, that's for sure". The only sure thing is it's entertaining to read you people, can i have some rope as well ? pilot

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#3565501 - 05/01/12 09:14 AM Re: Blacksix patch update 28/4/2012 [Re: Bokononist]
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Interesting, though surely Luthier and the team would have known what it would take to pass the epilepsy test months before release?
Just turning on the EF in the game basically screws the graphics up, so its clearly not working is it?
I agree it seems the patch is still a long way off, Luthier is talking about almost releasing with the problems it has currently...

· No dynamic low-caliber hit decals showing on aircraft;
· Detached aircraft chunks losing their texture and becoming pitch-black;
· Little particle "dust" that comes out of weapon hits looking like untextured squares;
· Gunsights always white in color;
· No waypoint lines rendered in map or FMB;
· Pilot and Plane models not rendering textures in Options - Pilot and Options - Plane respectively;
· DX9 support not ready for public consumption.


...if thats the case then it seems they are having alot of problems finding fixes.
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#3565535 - 05/01/12 10:51 AM Re: Blacksix patch update 28/4/2012 [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]
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Originally Posted By: BKHZ_Furbs

· No dynamic low-caliber hit decals showing on aircraft;
· Detached aircraft chunks losing their texture and becoming pitch-black;
· Little particle "dust" that comes out of weapon hits looking like untextured squares;
· Gunsights always white in color;
· No waypoint lines rendered in map or FMB;
· Pilot and Plane models not rendering textures in Options - Pilot and Options - Plane respectively;
· DX9 support not ready for public consumption.


...if thats the case then it seems they are having alot of problems finding fixes.

It would seem to me that these are, or must be related somehow and maybe if they released a beta patch with the caviat that it is not without problems that someone in the community might figure out that which is eluding them and at the very least get a bigger sampling of what hardware the community is using, not everyone may have the same results. just a thought.
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#3565550 - 05/01/12 11:34 AM Re: Blacksix patch update 28/4/2012 [Re: Bokononist]
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I think when it gets down to it, Maddox Games are a bunch of well meaning, extremely hardworking guys, who have really high ambitions for what they do, but don't have anyone with any business or management sense.

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#3565664 - 05/01/12 03:08 PM Re: Blacksix patch update 28/4/2012 [Re: rollnloop.]
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Originally Posted By: rollnloop.
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I believe UBISOFT said that they wouldn't publish COD in the west without the Epilepsy Filter.


From inside Ubi (i think even Luthier wrote this once, but not inclined to go dig banana forum, those interested will), this is not exactly what happened.

What happened is Clod failed the epilepsy tests, and would have needed some adjustments to pass it. Either 1C or MG (not known at Ubi) decided the antiepilepsy filter would do.

Another myth: "Ubi pulled out the Su26". From Oleg's mouth, 1C pulled it out. MG nor Ubi were able to oppose.

A last mostly unknown fact, again form inside Ubi: MG threatened to try Ubi for not promoting the Sim enough. Ubi threatened back to try MG for delivering a faulty product (Ubi was denied the right to test the RC) and their lawyers applied to MG the maximum penalties negociated in the distribution contract, wich made the game distribution a no loss operation for Ubi.

Now back on apr 28 update, i don't know any more what to think. I don't have a high opinion of Luthier as a boss, as many i know who worked with him once, but i'm pretty sure he really loves his current job (as Oleg did) and wishes to get the game to work properly. Has he got the right team for this ? The money to pay for the right team ? Another full time work to pay the bills while working overnight on the patch and sequel ? I really don't know, and have no hope of seeing the patch soon (or see it but with the game still broken), but can't say neither "we will have no patch, that's for sure". The only sure thing is it's entertaining to read you people, can i have some rope as well ? pilot



Yea no, not happening, till rope has time to dry out...took a big wave over the bow ahoy
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