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#3564914 - 04/30/12 05:17 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Architrav]
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Originally Posted By: Architrav
Originally Posted By: Hpasp
Nice book about the East German S-300PMU unit, from amazon.de

Thank you for the suggestion, based on that I ordered "Die Fla-Raketentruppen der Luftverteidigung der DDR: Geschichte und Geschichten" (The SAM-troops of the air defense of the GDR - history and stories)
Given the English and Russian technical terms thrown around in this thread, I already wondered what the equivalent in my native German might be.


Best book about the S-300PMU (SA-10B) I've ever seen.

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Edited by Hpasp (04/30/12 05:17 AM)
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#3564916 - 04/30/12 05:20 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Originally Posted By: piston79
I believe CooLDog means in "Linebacker II" scenarios....

Maybe. In any case he will clarify....

But anyways:
Click to reveal..
1967.
SR-71 Operation Tallin.

S-200VE Vega-E


00:11:29, Missile launched from launcher-1
Target distance: 146km
Target azimuth: 53°
Target elevation: 8°
Target angular speed: 902m/s (3,2 Mach)
Target altitude: 24km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target during flight
Received signal strength: 26,1dB


00:11:35, Missile launched from launcher-2
Target distance: 141km
Target azimuth: 53°
Target elevation: 9°
Target angular speed: 903m/s (3,2 Mach)
Target altitude: 24km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target during flight
Received signal strength: 26,7dB


00:11:47, Missile launched from launcher-3
Target distance: 130km
Target azimuth: 54°
Target elevation: 10°
Target angular speed: 898m/s (3,2 Mach)
Target altitude: 24km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 28,1dB


00:11:52, Missile launched from launcher-4
Target distance: 125km
Target azimuth: 54°
Target elevation: 10°
Target angular speed: 897m/s (3,2 Mach)
Target altitude: 24km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 28,7dB


00:12:38, Missile exploded
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 6m)

00:12:42, Missile exploded
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 12m)

00:12:48, Missile exploded
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 2m)

00:12:52, Missile exploded
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 3m)

00:12:58, Missile launched from launcher-5
Target distance: 73km
Target azimuth: 53°
Target elevation: 18°
Target angular speed: 354m/s (1,2 Mach)
Target altitude: 23km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 35,4dB


00:13:03, Missile launched from launcher-6
Target distance: 71km
Target azimuth: 52°
Target elevation: 18°
Target angular speed: 274m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 22,4km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 35,7dB


00:13:53, Missile exploded
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 5m)

00:13:58, Missile exploded
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 11m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 10min 23sec


3DAAR

I come from the Czech Republic and here are my photos of a former S-200 base at Dobris (sorry, only in Czech):
S-200 Dobris


Nice shot!

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CIA was cautious enough, not to let this flight to happen in real life.


Best Video of CzechSlovak S-200 unit, comparing past/present...

notworthy


(Any S-200VE Vega (SA-5B) fan should see this...)


Edited by Hpasp (04/30/12 07:04 AM)
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#3564933 - 04/30/12 06:00 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: montieris]
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Originally Posted By: montieris
Tried Cairo without SDC and other goodies;
Click to reveal..

10:22am 30th of June 1970
First wave, performing reconnaissance of the Cairo air defense system.

Reconnaisance force:
4 RF-4 Orev
4 Mirage-IIICJ

SA-75M Dvina


00:01:30, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 26km
Target azimuth: 189°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 92m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


00:01:42, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 22km
Target azimuth: 178°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 184m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:01:53, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 19km
Target azimuth: 170°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 184m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:02:00, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Mirage-IIICJ number 1 of flight-1 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 51m)

00:02:13, Missile exploded on Channel-2
Mirage-IIICJ number 3 of flight-1 hit by SAM. (miss distance: 207m)

00:02:23, Missile exploded on Channel-3
Mirage-IIICJ number 3 of flight-1 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 144m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 2min 0sec
Quote:
note; couldnt get third kill/hit on this one


18:18pm 30th of June 1970
First attack wave, against Cairo air defense.

Targets:
3rd Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade
9th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade
10th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade
11th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade

Attacking Force:
8 F-4E Kurnass
8 A-4E Ahit

SA-75M Dvina


00:08:27, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 25km
Target azimuth: 130°
Target elevation: 1°
Target altitude: 756m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


00:08:45, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 19km
Target azimuth: 129°
Target elevation: 2°
Target altitude: 726m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:08:55, Missile exploded on Channel-1
A-4E Ahit number 1 of flight-2 attacking 10th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 63m)

00:08:58, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 16km
Target azimuth: 128°
Target elevation: 1°
Target altitude: 400m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:09:11, Missile exploded on Channel-2

00:09:14, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 14km
Target azimuth: 127°
Target elevation: 1°
Target altitude: 331m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:09:19, Missile exploded on Channel-3
F-4E Kurnass number 1 of flight-1 attacking 11th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 42m)

00:09:31, Missile exploded on Channel-1

00:09:32, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 10km
Target azimuth: 132°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 66m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:09:43, Missile exploded on Channel-2
F-4E Kurnass number 2 of flight-1 attacking 11th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 30m)

00:09:52, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 4km
Target azimuth: 104°
Target elevation: 1°
Target altitude: 107m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:12:11, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 25km
Target azimuth: 132°
Target elevation: 1°
Target altitude: 574m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:12:37, Missile exploded on Channel-1
F-4E Kurnass number 4 of flight-3 attacking 9th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 32m)

00:14:33, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 25km
Target azimuth: 141°
Target elevation: 1°
Target altitude: 606m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:14:48, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 21km
Target azimuth: 142°
Target elevation: 1°
Target altitude: 606m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:15:01, Missile exploded on Channel-2
A-4E Ahit number 4 of flight-4 attacking 11th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 33m)

00:15:03, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 16km
Target azimuth: 147°
Target elevation: 1°
Target altitude: 355m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:15:13, Missile exploded on Channel-3

00:15:23, Missile exploded on Channel-1
A-4E Ahit number 3 of flight-4 attacking 11th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 73m)

00:15:23, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 11km
Target azimuth: 148°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 193m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:15:38, Missile exploded on Channel-2
A-4E Ahit number 1 of flight-4 attacking 11th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 13m)

00:15:40, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 8km
Target azimuth: 153°
Target elevation: 1°
Target altitude: 168m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:15:51, Missile exploded on Channel-3
A-4E Ahit number 2 of flight-4 attacking 11th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade hit by SAM. (miss distance: 165m)
00:16:06, A-4E Ahit number 2 of flight-4 attacking 11th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade bombed succesfully, knocking out the SNR.

Total, SNR On Air Time: 8min 14sec
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note: damn, couldnt lock evelation in time, and A-4 did hit SNR! frown otherwise 11th battery would live.




19:12pm 30th of June 1970
Second attack wave, against Cairo air defense.

Target:
10th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade

Attacking Force:
8 F-4E Kurnass
4 A-4E Ahit

SA-75M Dvina


00:09:05, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 2km
Target azimuth: 149°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 24m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:09:09, Missile exploded on Channel-1
A-4E Ahit number 1 of flight-2 attacking 10th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 60m)

00:09:23, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 2km
Target azimuth: 148°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 24m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:09:26, Missile exploded on Channel-2
A-4E Ahit number 2 of flight-2 attacking 10th Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 91m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 2min 10sec
Quote:
note: target distance 2km!!, is this a bug? btw, 10th battery lives smile


16:30pm 2nd of July 1970
Day-2, attack on the Cairo air defense system.

Targets:
3rd Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade

Attacking Force:
8 F-4E Kurnass
4 A-4E Ahit

SA-75M Dvina


00:05:24, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 24km
Target azimuth: 346°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 12m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


00:05:48, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 18km
Target azimuth: 356°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 12m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:05:52, Missile exploded on Channel-1
A-4E Ahit number 2 of flight-3 attacking 3rd Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 77m)

00:06:13, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 15km
Target azimuth: 14°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 14m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:06:13, Missile exploded on Channel-2
A-4E Ahit number 1 of flight-3 attacking 3rd Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 75m)

00:06:33, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 13km
Target azimuth: 28°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 25m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:06:35, Missile exploded on Channel-3
F-4E Kurnass number 2 of flight-2 attacking 3rd Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 3m)

00:06:50, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 10km
Target azimuth: 14°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 26m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:06:50, Missile exploded on Channel-1
F-4E Kurnass number 1 of flight-2 attacking 3rd Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 58m)

00:07:02, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 8km
Target azimuth: 1°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 26m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


00:07:05, Missile exploded on Channel-2
A-4E Ahit number 3 of flight-3 attacking 3rd Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade killed by SAM. (miss distance: 54m)
00:07:11, A-4E Ahit number 4 of flight-3 attacking 3rd Battery of the 5th Air Defense Missile Brigade bombed succesfully, knocking out the SNR.

Total, SNR On Air Time: 2min 59sec
Quote:
note: there are just too many of them, after last missile; scramble out of SNR and RUN! biggrin



Quote:
campaing results;
IRL; 2x F-4E
simulated; 2x Mirage III, 10x A-4E, 5x F-4E, 17 aircraft total!
Discuss!
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google tracks;
http://www.filedropper.com/cairotracks




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there are just too many of them, after last missile; scramble out of SNR and RUN! biggrin

We (as Fire Control Officers) are actually sitting in the UV van, bit away from the SNR (Fire Control Radar)...



...but one (SNR) technician had to be on duty all the time, inside the SNR, during battle.

One of my friend, was a SNR technician from a Hungarian Volhov battery.
When he asked his Russian instructor (at Ashuluk), what to do in case of HARM's around, his instructor said: "SNR technicians are just like fuses, they need to be swapped in case of problem arise...".
rolleyes

So our (Fire Control Officers) job is to shout into intercom to JUMP(!!!) for the technician inside of the SNR, during war...

... like here:



Edited by Hpasp (04/30/12 07:12 AM)
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#3564967 - 04/30/12 07:49 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Posts: 33
Loc: Austria
And the video is tagged as "comedy". nope

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#3565002 - 04/30/12 08:49 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Architrav]
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Registered: 02/15/12
Posts: 95
I had a good laugh at it. However, in the sim it seems nearly impossible to jump out of the van before it hits. The harm is just too fast.

Also, I think that video is fake. Or it was some time of test. Highly doubt that it is a real combat scenario.


Edited by CooLDoG (04/30/12 01:52 PM)
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#3565394 - 05/01/12 03:10 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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So our (Fire Control Officers) job is to shout into intercom to JUMP(!!!) for the technician inside of the SNR, during war...

... like here:

What was that kind of SNR - looks like Dvina to me...

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#3565412 - 05/01/12 05:05 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Registered: 04/22/12
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.... its so funi ! biggrin

so one guy aswer my question...please!!!

when mm14 hercules is release time ??? i want exact realease date

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#3565489 - 05/01/12 08:54 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 241
Loc: Czech Republic
milang: I think your posts and especially the last question are stupid. And I am sure I am not the only one with this opinion....

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#3565506 - 05/01/12 09:22 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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An old stuff, but still nice....


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#3565598 - 05/01/12 01:36 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Registered: 09/11/11
Posts: 89
Loc: baltics
^ or try it yourself biggrin

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