I agree Scott that a paid beta would have been afar better option, in many respects, but I'm not sure it would have garnered enough support and cash to keep the investors/beancounters willing to keep footing the bill. Unfortunately the development has been spending millions for so many years, that I doubt the investors are going to get their monies back, plus profit until they are well in the series. People making the money decisions, must be seeing some sunshine and rainbows, that the rest of us a hard pressed to see, or Luthier is one h#ll of a salesman atleast in the boardroom.

Personally I just think the epilepsy filter was just another roadblock in a long line of roadblocks the development has had to find away around.

Its been a h#llish development for "everyone" involved. Hopefully it will have a happy ending.

Anyway, anyone testing WarThunder see any positives that the IL-2 crowd could gravitate too and stay? And no I'm not asking you NuggetX. Actually he's been awfully quiet for a year or so, he must be playing alot of COD, or testing WarThunder. Gaijin has done some decent work and its possible they could enter the more complex sim market, especially now that they have a revenue stream with their less complex sims. I'm not holding my breath for that to happen, but remain hopeful.

Maybe, but probably not.

From the developer..."DCS is not intended to be a full WW2 era simulation."

Although they could change their business model in the future. Even if they did, it would be many years before anything substantial would be released.

Atleast the P51, would be fun target practice for modern jets, weapons systems.

I know its old ground Chivas, but please tell me you didn't buy that epilepsy filter rubbish?

You telling me a professional software team didn't know about that and for the first time in game development history it caused a major roadblock just weeks before release?


Some things you say Chivas make sense, but that? come on pull the other one its got bells on.

I never believed the ignorance of the epilepsy filter thing either...I still would like to hear from Chivas about the money thing, backers and all. I can't see the devs having much expense, and they should be loaded with our money.

Seems to me a "patch" is something that is applied to fix a few minor problems andmaybe add a few updates or additions.

This thing they are working on now ought to have a new word. I guess one could call it a "Major overhaul" but I doubt such

a term will stick in the computer software world. So.. what do we call something that is way bigger than a patch, in fact

virtually a complete re write of the product ? Just wondering.

For CLOD "CPR"

I believe UBISOFT said that they wouldn't publish COD in the west without the Epilepsy Filter. Who knows what the timing of that request was, it would be quite possible that a copy of COD was sent to UBISOFT to publish in the west and after their tests decided they wanted an Epilepsy filter. The epilepsy filter was a problem, but obviously not the main problem with the sim, just another delay.

Personally I've never seen a sim make use of an epilepsy filter, although I understand certain people are susceptible to the condition playing some video games. I don't believe the COD developers used the issue as some sort of boondoggle, as they certainly wouldn't have time to play that game. It would serve no purpose.

I inferred in a couple of posts back that the developers aren't even close to covering the costs so far for the sim. They've spent millions of dollars so far trying to get the new game engine built and working properly. Those costs won't be recovered by COD, but should be recovered sometime during the release of quite a number of sequels the new game engine will spawn. This is why the performance/graphic patch is so critical, without the much needed performance and stability the series is dead, and the developers will have a lost a considerable amount of money.

The already did it, it was called a patch, and a complete overhaul of the graphics engine with 200% more performance.... then not.

So when they signed the contract with UBISOFT to publish CLOD the epilepsy filter was not in it and was added at the last minute?...come on.
A professional game studio would of known about this sort of filter form the very start, if they forgot then its gross incompetence. It was used to explain bad performance at release, just like the excuse of the show PC's of "only 2 GB of RAM at the shows PC's at Kiev dont worry everything will be fine with 4 GB", though let me guess, you believed that too?

Anyway...its old ground like i said Chivas, not worth arguing over again, its done now.