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#3565158 - 04/30/12 03:10 PM
Re: My XBL Hacked, I think.
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the problem is how much some developers abuse making Paid DLC Content. which creates the scenario every is experiencing.
Along with the fact that XBL allows any developer that links their online servers to XBL (required to play the game) to clean out your XBL account with no other security/fraud checks and then gives their customers the ignorance and runaround XBL fraud experience.
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#3565170 - 04/30/12 03:23 PM
Re: My XBL Hacked, I think.
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funny thing is someone on my facebook said "thats why i have a playstation 3" when i said my XBL was hijacked.
Sony's crap is Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay worse.
Hopefully its resolved.
I know i wasn't phished and my PC is clean, the only place I even remotely logged into my passport.net outside of Xbox, Xbox.com, ZuneHD, Zune Application, Zune.net, Passport.net, GamesForWindowsLive, Live Mail (which i dont even use anymore), and Live Messenger was Origin. when it asked me to link my EA and Xbox accounts to display my Xbox stats on EA Origin for BF3.
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#3565190 - 04/30/12 03:59 PM
Re: My XBL Hacked, I think.
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Glad to hear the damage was light Skate, also the hacker didn't blow away your friend list like they did with me, I still see you on my friends list and I confirm that I see FIFA12 on your recent activities list.
For me the XBL support guy was actually helpful resetting my password a couple of times while we fought the hacker who kept changing my live account password and personal questions, and once we were able to take my account back over and lock out the hacker XBL support refunded my 6000 lost points and then put the fraud lock on the account. So thankfully I didn't lose my gamertag for 6 weeks of fraud investigation as was a possibility and happens to many. I then worked with my creditcard to cancel the card and get a refund on the hundreds of dollars of points charged (they were the ones who alerted me to the possible fraud).
Still finding XBL friends that got removed when the hacker deleted all my friends and messages when he had control.
Hopefully you are clean now, although if you still have a valid card on XBL I don't think there is anything to stop it from happening again as long as the EA account is linked to XBL.
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#3565226 - 04/30/12 05:51 PM
Re: My XBL Hacked, I think.
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i should clean my list, i still have people on my list from the Xbox Live beta testing in 2002, and havent been on since 2004,
its funny, cuz i have a few new people on my list that i dont remember, and one of them sent me a Redeem code for GR:FW that worked the day after the hacker used all my points. So he wont be deleted right away :-), guess he thought he was messaging his buddy, its also possible my brother added them while i was at work, as they seem to invite me to Call Of Duty and other games he plays on Live that i dont, I've limited myself to Forza on Xbox Live for the last 4 or 5 years since thats all i have time for.
its like they are changing their M.O. as i didnt notice it till a week later, when I was finally able to sign into Zune's software on my PC and my Profile ticker said i only had 30 MS pts when i know i had over 900.
Edited by SkateZilla (04/30/12 05:58 PM)
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#3565720 - 05/01/12 05:39 PM
Re: My XBL Hacked, I think.
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Hrmm, does sunday count as a working day for them? or should i give them till Thursday night before i call them.
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#3566656 - 05/03/12 09:49 AM
Re: My XBL Hacked, I think.
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Wow, so can they hack you from ANY EA game linked to your Xbox 360? I have a STACK of games linked to my Xbox from EA... Not FIFA 12 though. I don't have a credit card on file with them thankfully.
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#3566686 - 05/03/12 10:26 AM
Re: My XBL Hacked, I think.
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i never touched FIFA or the demos for it.
but it happened 2 weeks after i linked with EA and BF3.
i wouldn't be surprised if it was the dumbest hole in the world.
but MS said they are good, and EA says the same. Some one isnt doing crap to resolve an on going issue, this all started with FIFA 10, escalated into people being hacked for XBL Arcade titles as well, and EA was voted worst company of the year.
im still waiting to hear back from MS, I'll give them till Sat. night, as I'll be setting up and abusing my Eyefinity setup.
Edited by SkateZilla (05/03/12 10:27 AM)
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#3566742 - 05/03/12 11:57 AM
Re: My XBL Hacked, I think.
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got a email on my main email, stating that i added a alternate email (the email addy i gave the tech support guy).
at my alternate email i got a email saying i requested a password reset,
I had already changed my password, and that password didnt work, so i went ahead and changed my password again.
then got an email regarding the case,
the normal hoopla about passwords, plus 2 codes to download MS points, (600 pts), erm, the hacker spent 960.
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#3566892 - 05/03/12 03:46 PM
Re: My XBL Hacked, I think.
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Sorry to hear the fun continues for you Skate.
@Hogdriver, as far as I can tell the only way to be safe from this XBL hack is to not leave a valid credit card or Paypal on your XBL account, until XBL puts in some basic fraud detection or prevention measures that would stop this hack.
i.e. XBL could prevent this if they didn't allow a newly added console to clean out your points, or purchase hundreds of dollars of new points within minutes of being added to an existing account, without doing additional auth verification (email or private questions)... especially if that new console is located in a different city or country from the other previous consoles on the account.
Even my iPhone required additional validation when it was upgraded and added to iTunes and I went to make a new app purchase on my existing iTunes account. So this isn't rocket science, but XBL for some reason doesn't mind that their customers who trusted them with their credit card/paypal are being ripped off so easily by their "partners" like EA who can't keep their own security up to snuff, XBL even refuses to admit if the fraud was committed by a problem on XBL or EA.
Again it is ironic that Sony got all the bad press by being hacked, but they admitted it, did something about it and took care of the customers, yet Microsoft continues to ignore and deny and let the customers be ripped off.
Edited by kludger (05/03/12 03:55 PM)
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#3566901 - 05/03/12 04:05 PM
Re: My XBL Hacked, I think.
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Sorry to hear the fun continues for you Skate.
@Hogdriver, as far as I can tell the only way to be safe from this XBL hack is to not leave a valid credit card or Paypal on your XBL account, until XBL puts in some basic fraud detection or prevention measures that would stop this hack.
i.e. XBL could prevent this if they didn't allow a newly added console to clean out your points, or purchase hundreds of dollars of new points within minutes of being added to an existing account, without doing additional auth verification (email or private questions)... especially if that new console is located in a different city or country from the other previous consoles on the account.
Even my iPhone required additional validation when it was upgraded and added to iTunes and I went to make a new app purchase on my existing iTunes account. So this isn't rocket science, but XBL for some reason doesn't mind that their customers who trusted them with their credit card/paypal are being ripped off so easily by their "partners" like EA who can't keep their own security up to snuff, XBL even refuses to admit if the fraud was committed by a problem on XBL or EA.
Again it is ironic that Sony got all the bad press by being hacked, but they admitted it, did something about it and took care of the customers, yet Microsoft continues to ignore and deny and let the customers be ripped off. Agreed, MS should put a Sec. Code on Xbox Accounts/Passport.net Accounts that isnt stored on the console or in the account to prevent people from signing in on another console and going nuts. if they dont know the sec. code they cant do anything. my case is resolved according to MS, i have control of my account back, and they said they refunded me $4.99 + added 560 points back, plus download codes for a 400 pts, and a 200 pts in the email, no i gotta re-download my profile. but as of right now it still shows me as only having 30 points. i dunno if i can take my card off, as its used for ZunePass. but i created a nice long random password with Upper, lowercase, and alternate characters... and the only place i've typed it is in notepad, Xbox.com, Zune's Software, and Passport.net.
Edited by SkateZilla (05/03/12 04:07 PM)
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