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#3564995 - 04/30/12 08:38 AM
So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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I somehow don't need FC3 anymore... Flying the T again was the only reason I was going to get FC3. Unless I'm missing out something? I guess I'll have to buy the P-51 to thank ED for their awesomeness 
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#3565016 - 04/30/12 09:10 AM
Re: So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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Unless they make modules for the Flanker and Fulcrum, I'll happily be plunking down my money (again) for the next installment of Flaming Cliffs. Though I'll be interested to see what else is coming down the pike with DCS World...
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#3565118 - 04/30/12 01:57 PM
Re: So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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I somehow don't need FC3 anymore... Flying the T again was the only reason I was going to get FC3. Unless I'm missing out something? I guess I'll have to buy the P-51 to thank ED for their awesomeness Sorry if this question sounds stupid. But what do you mean by "now that we have the SU-25T in FC2"? Was it not in FC2 from the beginning? And if not how did you get it now? I ask because I don't own FC2 but was thinking of buying FC2. Thanks in advance. My best regards, Kodiak.
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#3565123 - 04/30/12 02:09 PM
Re: So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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I somehow don't need FC3 anymore... Flying the T again was the only reason I was going to get FC3. Unless I'm missing out something? I guess I'll have to buy the P-51 to thank ED for their awesomeness Sorry if this question sounds stupid. But what do you mean by "now that we have the SU-25T in FC2"? Was it not in FC2 from the beginning? And if not how did you get it now? I ask because I don't own FC2 but was thinking of buying FC2. Thanks in advance. My best regards, Kodiak. It was in FC2, but it is now (as a flyable plane) in the DCS world (together with DCS A-10C, Black Shark and the (lovley) P-51D. Jens
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#3565132 - 04/30/12 02:23 PM
Re: So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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If it helps Kodiak, what Jens said but here's how I figure it: - The P51 beta is built around the new concept of 'DCS World' where you get the base sim but then other 'modules' to buy and run on it. The P-51 is a beta of one of these new modules. - With the base sim you get the flyable SU25T that was previously in FC2 for free. It's on the DCS platform but it's a non-clickable cockpit but still features its advance flight model (compared to other FC2 aircraft). - The base 'DCS World' is contained in the P-51 download (oh, actually it not just in a torrent now - cool). It's here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/in...135&lang=en- If you already own A10 or Black Shark 2 then in the future they will be made available as 'modules' to add back into the DCS world. It could be something like a download of just the A10 bits and then activating your key again.
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#3565147 - 04/30/12 02:54 PM
Re: So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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Exactly as they said above The cool bit is that the P-51 download comes with 2 different installs: - DCS World - P-51 DCS world is free, and it comes with the Su-25T as flyable.
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#3565156 - 04/30/12 03:07 PM
Re: So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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I think FC3 might still be worth a look though Captain, as I understand it it will bring up the FC2 aircraft more to DCS standard. The free DCS World Su25T is very nice, but a full clickable cockpit and 'DCS treatment' would be a nice new thing to buy. I love the Frogfoot
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#3565180 - 04/30/12 03:37 PM
Re: So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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If there is such a rumour, it is certainly not true. There may or may not be features added, but ... DCS standard - no. It will certainly bring those aircraft into the new DCS World, though. as I understand it it will bring up the FC2 aircraft more to DCS standard
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#3565189 - 04/30/12 03:52 PM
Re: So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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If there is such a rumour, it is certainly not true. There may or may not be features added, but ... DCS standard - no. It will certainly bring those aircraft into the new DCS World, though. as I understand it it will bring up the FC2 aircraft more to DCS standard So if they are basically the same aircraft/pits and I already own FC2 then is the plan I buy it again to run them in the DCS World? Sounds a bit less compelling
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#3565192 - 04/30/12 04:06 PM
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Basically. Whether there are other compelling features than being able to connect to the rest of the DCS modules, I cannot confirm nor deny.
Certainly missions can become a bit more interesting thanks to additional ME capability.
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#3565254 - 04/30/12 07:12 PM
Re: So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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If it helps Kodiak, what Jens said but here's how I figure it: - The P51 beta is built around the new concept of 'DCS World' where you get the base sim but then other 'modules' to buy and run on it. The P-51 is a beta of one of these new modules. - With the base sim you get the flyable SU25T that was previously in FC2 for free. It's on the DCS platform but it's a non-clickable cockpit but still features its advance flight model (compared to other FC2 aircraft). - The base 'DCS World' is contained in the P-51 download (oh, actually it not just in a torrent now - cool). It's here: http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/in...135&lang=en- If you already own A10 or Black Shark 2 then in the future they will be made available as 'modules' to add back into the DCS world. It could be something like a download of just the A10 bits and then activating your key again. Ah, I see. Thanks for explaining. Appreciate it! I only have Black Shark, but maybe gonna get me the P-51, that one looks sweet!! My best regards, Kodiak.
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#3567317 - 05/04/12 12:20 PM
Re: So now that we have the Su-25T in DCS World...
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I think there won't be FC3 in a traditional way, it wouldn't make sense to produce a separate product appart from the DCS World. I think (and hope) that FC3 will be a pack of (FC2) aircraft with some new features that you will be able to plug into DCS World sim after buying it.
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#3567343 - 05/04/12 01:13 PM
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Yes, it would. Basically, there's what you'd like to see done (which may not differ from what ED would like to see done), and then there's business. it wouldn't make sense to produce a separate product appart from the DCS World
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#3594626 - 06/20/12 08:11 AM
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Forgive me for being way being the times on this but I downloaded the free DCS World to fly around the Frogfoot and it is great but did they eliminate the area we used to fly around before? You know, the "Crimean Tour" area with the arch rock and other sights? I see the area on the west side of the map but no more airports or details?
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#3594636 - 06/20/12 08:27 AM
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Yes, the crimea area has been removed. There is more terrain to the east instead.
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#3594641 - 06/20/12 08:41 AM
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Thanks for the info GrayGhost. It seems there was alot of fine work there that they just threw away? Wow....that shocks me. I liked that area.
Oh well.....onward and upward!
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#3594683 - 06/20/12 10:07 AM
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They removed it because they wanted to expand to the east, and the engine at the time could not handle that number of objects, IIRC.
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#3594712 - 06/20/12 11:17 AM
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Having flown over the Crimean since Flanker 2.0, I didn't mind the change in locales. I wouldn't #%&*$# if it came back, though.
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#3594741 - 06/20/12 12:07 PM
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I wouldn't mind having it back either. As a consolation prize though, Nevada is on the way with EDGE ... and hopefuly plenty of EDGEd terrains in the future 
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#3595231 - 06/21/12 10:49 AM
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A few more questions please.
1. I want to set my altimeter in the frogfoot to what tower says but there is no real altimeter window? I guess just set known field elevation?
2. Is there a wingman rejoin command? Nothing I see in the radio tree. I tried LWin Y to no effect. They always just seems to fly off to nowhere.
3. I order trail formation but they say roger and go echelon.
4. There is no radio switching in the frogfoot is there? I have to listen to all those other aircraft reporting attack runs? Anyway to change this as some of them get stuck in a loop.
Thanks.
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#3595260 - 06/21/12 11:55 AM
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A few more questions please.
1. I want to set my altimeter in the frogfoot to what tower says but there is no real altimeter window? I guess just set known field elevation?
IIRC the Gauge in the cockpit is broken
2. Is there a wingman rejoin command? Nothing I see in the radio tree. I tried LWin Y to no effect. They always just seems to fly off to nowhere.
I'd like a track of this if possible
3. I order trail formation but they say roger and go echelon.
I'll check this out.
4. There is no radio switching in the frogfoot is there? I have to listen to all those other aircraft reporting attack runs? Anyway to change this as some of them get stuck in a loop.
A new option has been added to turn this off - will be in next patch.
Thanks. Nate
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