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#3564698 - 04/29/12 08:05 PM Re: DCS:- P-51 pre-purchase and open beta is out. [Re: Nate]
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Bogusheadbox, I think it's fairly obvious I'm not talking about a stratocruiser. However, I might be talking about the B-17, The P-47, the P-40, the Spitfire, the FW-190 etcetera. smile
https://www.a2asimulations.com/store/

That's my point. I thought it was obvious I was talking in the context of warbirds. smile

And TFC has a flying P-51D, so bringing a flying P-51D into the modern world is obviously not insane either since they are flying, right now. Same thing with A2A Accusim P-51. It doesn't make "sense" as a WW2 simulator, but as a simulation _of that plane_ it's awesome, imo. smile


Edited by EtherealN (04/29/12 08:06 PM)


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#3564700 - 04/29/12 08:06 PM Re: DCS:- P-51 pre-purchase and open beta is out. [Re: Magnum]
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Originally Posted By: Magnum
Hey thx for the news... downloading via torrent after all... but slow as heck, 50% after about 4 hours... thought torrent was fast. lol

And correct... I know 3 DSC forum mods are over here, that great but we will police SimHQ. We allow opinions and disagreements on the product and price, as long as it's not persona attacks. So Thanks.


Magnum which Client are you using?? IF you are behind a Router you would need to Open a Port in your Router for that Torrent client..

Also if you use a firewall you will need to add an exception for that torrent client as well..

I use uTorrent and need to open a port for that I usually on some really good seeded Torrents get 1.0MB/S which is pretty fast sometimes it goes as high as 4MB/s..With Torrents it is all based on the other guys UL speeds and amount of seeders..
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#3564706 - 04/29/12 08:15 PM Re: DCS:- P-51 pre-purchase and open beta is out. [Re: Nate]
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Bogusheadbox, there are mods in the works....



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#3564707 - 04/29/12 08:16 PM Re: DCS:- P-51 pre-purchase and open beta is out. [Re: EtherealN]
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Originally Posted By: EtherealN
Sorry FearlessFrog, I assumed I was allowed to comment on what people said. That's sort of what we do in forums, right? wink
Right here people are commenting on a product, complaining about the pricetag, and I express my inability to understand that complaint and pointing out the inherent double-standard of that complaint. (Basically the point being that this complaint was not leveraged against other companies releasing the same type of product - that requires a double standard, not as a sort of moral judgement, just as a pure fact. Everyone does this about something, just usually uncounsciously, wherefore I personally find it to actually be helpful to have it pointed out - when it isn't pointed out to me I risk continuing in that error. wink )

Personally I think it's because people have sort of decided what ED is "doing" and anything that doesn't fit that expectation makes people disappointed since it isn't what they excepted. Sort of like how people were up in arms at the new Syndicate game or when Microsoft Flight wasn't the same type of product as the old MSFS series.

To make the simple comparison:
A2A products: Just fine and dandy, superb stuff, give us more please.
ED's P-51D: Not fine, too expensive, needs WW2 map, needs WW2 opponents etcetera etcetera.

I cannot be the only one that does not understand the above, right? smile
Personally, I like both of them. (Even though they both commit the crime of not selling us AT-802U's, I can forgive them.)

Now, if you're one of the people that wouldn't purchase the A2A planes either, then that's fine. That's not what I'm adressing. smile


I just want people to feel they are able to speak freely without being ganged up on by either supporters or complainers.

You are allowed, of course, to comment on what people say but consider the questions of 'Are you going to add a rebuttal to every single negative thing you see about ED's products?' because if you (or other ED moderators/testers) are then we have a problem.

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#3564709 - 04/29/12 08:18 PM Re: DCS:- P-51 pre-purchase and open beta is out. [Re: FearlessFrog]
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Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog
I just want people to feel they are able to speak freely without being ganged up on by either supporters or complainers.

You are allowed, of course, to comment on what people say but consider the questions of 'Are you going to add a rebuttal to every single negative thing you see about ED's products?' because if you (or other ED moderators/testers) are then we have a problem.


I would have thought SimHQ was one of the more impartial forums about, no?

Nate

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#3564710 - 04/29/12 08:22 PM Re: DCS:- P-51 pre-purchase and open beta is out. [Re: Nate]
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Originally Posted By: Nate
Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog
I just want people to feel they are able to speak freely without being ganged up on by either supporters or complainers.

You are allowed, of course, to comment on what people say but consider the questions of 'Are you going to add a rebuttal to every single negative thing you see about ED's products?' because if you (or other ED moderators/testers) are then we have a problem.


I would have thought SimHQ was one of the more impartial forums about, no?

Nate


Yes, absolutely. We work hard to keep it that way.

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#3564714 - 04/29/12 08:28 PM Re: DCS:- P-51 pre-purchase and open beta is out. [Re: Nate]
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Originally Posted By: Nate
BTW the Su-25T Russian attack aircraft from FC2 is free as part of the DCS download with P-51 - Download it, it's free.

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/in...135&lang=en

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DCS World is a single, unified core for all DCS products to operating within. Rather than separate installations for each DCS products, the single DCS world interface allows the user to access all of their DCS products in a common user interface. DCS world also includes a DCS News service and will allow users to purchase DCS titles through the interface at a later point.

DCS World will be updated as DCS evolves with changes to the rendering system, AI units, AI logics, effects, etc. All aspect of the simulation, outside the flyable aircraft, add-on maps, and other paid-for content.

The current DCE World is still in beta and will evolve over time with new features.

The initial DCE World comes with a free flyable aircraft, the Su-25T (exported from Flaming Cliffs 2).


Nate


Whoa! Wait, whaaaaat???!!

SU-25T as well? full fidelity? Start-up and all systems working?

This may be a different matter smile
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#3564716 - 04/29/12 08:34 PM Re: DCS:- P-51 pre-purchase and open beta is out. [Re: FearlessFrog]
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Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog

I just want people to feel they are able to speak freely without being ganged up on by either supporters or complainers.


I don't see anyone being ganged up on, myself. I see a LOT of posts of the complainers though. wink Making a single reply to give a contrary opinion can't be bad, given that context, no? smile

Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog
You are allowed, of course, to comment on what people say but consider the questions of 'Are you going to add a rebuttal to every single negative thing you see about ED's products?' because if you (or other ED moderators/testers) are then we have a problem.


Take a brief look at my posting frequency and you'll see how likely that is. :P I wouldn't have the time to do so even if I wanted to (which I don't).

A single post is not a "ganging up". But how about just taking this to PM if you have further complaints? Probably works better rather than polluting this thread. smile


Edited by EtherealN (04/29/12 08:34 PM)

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#3564719 - 04/29/12 08:35 PM Re: DCS:- P-51 pre-purchase and open beta is out. [Re: MaceUK33]
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Originally Posted By: MaceUK33

Whoa! Wait, whaaaaat???!!

SU-25T as well? full fidelity? Start-up and all systems working?

This may be a different matter smile


It's the FC Su-25T. No clickable cockpit or the other things (but it does of course have AFM), that would be a bit too much work to give away "for free" I imagine.


Edited by EtherealN (04/29/12 08:36 PM)

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#3564720 - 04/29/12 08:36 PM Re: DCS:- P-51 pre-purchase and open beta is out. [Re: EtherealN]
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Originally Posted By: EtherealN
Bogusheadbox, I think it's fairly obvious I'm not talking about a stratocruiser. However, I might be talking about the B-17, The P-47, the P-40, the Spitfire, the FW-190 etcetera. smile
https://www.a2asimulations.com/store/

That's my point. I thought it was obvious I was talking in the context of warbirds. smile

And TFC has a flying P-51D, so bringing a flying P-51D into the modern world is obviously not insane either since they are flying, right now. Same thing with A2A Accusim P-51. It doesn't make "sense" as a WW2 simulator, but as a simulation _of that plane_ it's awesome, imo. smile


Yeah i did have an inkling you were referring about the warbirds.

Maybe i got the wrong end of the stick with your post though (and that is sometimes easy to do in a written environment).

What i was referring to was, irrespective of the a/c of choice with A2A, if purchased with accusim, provides an addon (new experience/level of detail) that FSX cannot provide within the realms of its natural borders. As for flying a mustang in modern life... Hell Tom Cruise does and i am still trying to figure out how he sees over the instrument panel ;-)

I am making no cross reference towards the product from ED, I just didn't get your correlation. (I have had a long flight today so common sense and understanding has most likely left the realms of my psyche thumbsup)

As for the mods pictures... Looks nice.. and very interesting. Thanks Nate.



Edited by bogusheadbox (04/29/12 08:37 PM)
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