Go get it boys!

Well, to be specific, it is released to pre-order, and those that do will have access to a beta version.

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/index.php?end_pos=1322&scr=shop&lang=en

is there any bonus other than having the beta? (ex: free Nevada with DCS A-10 preorder)

Only bonus I can see is Beta. Will be buying this Tomorrow(Pay Day, perfect timing ED!) looking forward to it!

Oh yes there most definitely is.

Download, install and have a looksee. If you like what you see then buy the serial key.

I'm trying to do just that. 15 hours remaining apparently.

But don't you need the key to install, or doesn't it work like that?

PS Only 11 people seeding worldwide? 8 day download on my 150 Mbps connection (yes, I know it gets quicker)

I'm giving this one a pass. Can't see how they can make it work with the current environment they have.

No, only need the key when you run a mission. Can install and fool around with the GUI, ME etc etc.

I'm seeing 43 active seeders on my end. Note that depending on client, it might only show the seeds _you_ are connected to.

I WAS really interested, but then I saw the price.

Nah, not for me. All that complex thing is too much for me anyway... probably.
Have fun tho!

While waiting to download, here's the Quick Start guide:

http://forums.eagle.ru/attachment.php?attachmentid=65124&d=1335734801

Eh? It's a $40 pre-order according to the website....Can't download until its in the cart and then paid for?

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/in...135&lang=en

Roger, cheers

BTW the Su-25T Russian attack aircraft from FC2 is free as part of the DCS download with P-51 - Download it, it's free.

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/in...135&lang=en



Nate

Turns out the P-51 is actually an Add-on to the DCS world that is installed first.

Then you have and an opportunity to purchase A-10C or KA-50 v 1.1.2.0

That is of course if you do not own them - if you do, the upcoming modules will upgrade your versions of Warthog and Black shark.

Nate

Nate, is the SU-25T available with this now? Are all the systems working?

Sorry, I'm following your posts around to try and catch you so I have asked this in other threads too

Hahah! I'm doing the same The Su-25T is the Su-25T from Flaming Cliffs 2 - and it is free - no purchase necessary.

Nate

I bought it because ED has done nothing but spectacular work, and I wish to support them. My 1 hour of stick time review:

The P-51 is beautiful, both visually and FM wise. That new sound engine is something! The first time I hit F3 it really blew me away!

As far as price, comparing it to some of the add-ins for FSX, this is not unreasonable. Fidelity and controls wise, it certainly is right at the top of the heap as far as systems modeling (would expect nothing else from the producers of A-10). Plus, you can shoot things!

I am still concerned at not having other period content, will pretty much limit combat activities to mud moving, especially tragic for the Mustang . . . no real reason to go up high nor much to do while you are up there.

Just flying around in it is a treat though, I will get my moneys worth out of it just learning the systems and how to fly it well.

But holy cow, the engine sound when you so a flyby is something!

Good mini review. It sold me. D/Ling now ...

My norton is complaining about the dcs world.exe. Get a ws.reputation.1 alert and norton removes the file. I've tried to read up on it but the criteria for the threat are quite vague. So, does anyone else have this issue? I've thought about waiting a while and checking the file again. Perhaps an increase in user numbers will remove the high risk rating.

-C-

Yes. Not me personally, but EtherealN:

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?p=1443594&postcount=16

Yeah, I can confirm that. I've not talked to Norton about it (odds of prompt reply... bad :P ), but I've satisfied myself that it's just a false positive based on a heuristic. I told Norton to ignore the file and restore it, and then everything went swimmingly and Norton hasn't found anything on the scans it has done after install.

I have a good hint a what the answer will be BUT, does someone knows if they plan to release the upgrade for BS2 and A-10 before, at the same time, or after the P-51 is released?

So let me get this straight, It's $39.99 for a complete Download and you don't have to own any DCS title? and if you do own BS, BS2, A-10 or FC2 it installs into one of those?

Yep...sort of... the download includes the new DCS common flight sim, called "DCS World". The P-51 addon installs as part of that, and the basic "World" sim comes with an SU-25T - nothing else yet. Apparently patches are forthcoming which will incorporate BS2 and A-10C if you have those already, but as of now they are still separate sims.

To back up Ruhroh, the P-51 is a great flyer Possibly the best representation of a warbird in a PC sim yet.

Giving away the flyable SU-25T (the one from FC2) with the base 'DCS World' is actually really generous. The download for P-51 (a torrent file only, I've uploaded about 20GB last night alone - yay, community ) contains both the free 'DCS World' beta and the P-51 'module' beta (which asks for a serial number before a flight). Even if you don't have a serial key for the P-51 then you still get to see its missions and an external view of the model, i.e. they've disabled the cockpit but left everything else I think.

DCS World eh? What they should have done from the start!

Is there any plan to have a DCS World that doesn't require buying P-51?

It is already there - download the P-51 torrent - install DCS:-World but not the P-51. You can then fly around in the SU-25T. No purchase necessary.

Nate

Actually looking today, it seems that you can download without using a torrent

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/in...135&lang=en

The P51 module is separate 147MB file.

Thanks, didn't see it as a separate product so I thought it was upcoming or otherwise. Giving it a go. Curious to see how the World engine differs from the latest A10 or BS2.

Not sure this is right place to ask but is this the only things I have to do to maximize P-51D performance?
I have been challenging against AI over 20 times and I cant beat him yet LOL

Throttle to Gate
Full forward propeller lever -> RPM 3000

Am I missing something?

You probably have to move the stick a bit and do some of that pilot sh*t too :-)

Sorry, couldn't resist..

-C-

Have you (can you) leaned the mixture for altitude?
Trimmed the aircraft perfectly?
Closed the radiator shutters?
Got out and polished the wings?
Cheers
Keith

What.. is it just me, having hard time beating the AI ...?!



It looks like mixture has 3 stage. cutoff, run, emergency. According to manual, emergency settings is not something to do with the WEP.
I havent used any trimming.. is it required to win dogfight..?

Radiator was set it AUTO, I'll try settings it to closed thankyou

It doesn't help that temperature effects are not implemented yet - I assume the AI are running permanent flat out.

It's hard to catch the AI in the training mission and harder to shoot them down if you do get close!

As is the player - you need to keep every single drop of energy to have a hope of beating him - even then it is partly luck.

Nate

Is the AI P51 using the same flight model as the player?

Not being overly familiar with DCS air to air combat (but lots in IL2/RoF etc) but is the new P51 module including anything new in terms of AI combat and manoeuvres? Is the aim for the P-51 to have a true prop furball fight or is that something further down the road?

yea.. I just tried and noticed that temp is not changed






I can tell you this mustang AI is far better than FC2 and A-10C.
It was easy to beat those two AIs but mustang AI.
In every fight I get 2 to 4 times(if im lucky) of chance to have a lead shot but I miss them most of time(LOL) and they hardly miss those chance.
Maybe I have to learn to shoot.

I like this challenging AI though, I just thought if I'm missing something to maximize performance.

Thanks nadal - that sounds really promising

oh wait, maybe I should have said "it's way harder than FC2 and A-10C's".
Im not sure new maneuver or tactics were implemented.

But I can tell you it's definitely hard to beat AI than other 2.

So I can download the beta and fly around with missions made in the editor without paying for a CD key?

If so I'll give it a try. Not really interested in WWII (have CloD and have not touched it) but if I get to try P-51 then maybe I might be inclined to buy it.

I'm afraid not - you will only be able to fly the Su-25T for free, the P-51 must be purchased if you want to fly it. Everything is fully functional for the Su-25T (From FC2) except Multiplayer.

Nate

Is the Su-25T fully functional? Perhaps this will allow me to test my system on the newer engine build? I currently only have FC2/BS1 so even viewing the updated engine would be a worthwhile download for me.

Actually, you can also install the P-51 and hit 'Exit' on the key activation and it shows the mission/aircraft from a 3rd party view so you can see the nice Mustang model up close. It is a great way (with the flyable Su25T) to check out how DCS World works on your system.

Yep except for Multiplayer - you only get that after purchasing one of BS2/A-10/P-51.

Nate

Thanks for the reply. I am assuming Flaming Cliffs 3 will be integrated into DCS World?

I actually don't know - but I'd be surprised if it wasn't.

Nate

GrayGhost or one of the other ED reps did say FC3 would be a DCS World title I believe. I'll have a look for the msg.

Definitely something I'm keen to learn more about, even if it's not in the beta yet. If the P-51 is modelled more just for acrobatics or maybe mud-moving then I could see myself getting bored after a few weeks. If it's got decent ACM via single player AI that fit with prop combat (yoyos, stall turns etc) then that would be ideal. Not seeing anyone mention that, so I suspect not yet anyway..

Spent a good couple of hours with this last night and absolutely love it. Best sim i've ever played and it's still only a beta.

Love how the aircraft feels heavy in the air and enjoy wrestling with it during taxying and take off.

Fingers crossed a third part developer will rush out at WW2 or Korean map for it. And some appropriate AI opponents (Perhaps the LA 9 for Korea, late FW-190s for a WW2 European senario or the Ki-84 for Japan WW2).

I reckon the ultimate would be a third party korean map with the F4U-4 and carrier ops.

Well done to all involved. Here's hoping the third party devlopers come on board quickly.

It will certainly use the same behind the scenes stuff, but it might not actually plug into DCS world. This is a contract issue.

Ah, yes - thanks. I'd forgotten about that Ubisoft connection.

I don't understand what UBI has to do with FC3.
I though that on lu LockOn was to UBi, but Flaming Cliff was to ED.
And if ''flaming cliff'' brand is own by UBI, ED should change the name of FC3

EDIT: oh... and sr*w you UBI

Unisoft owns the LOMAC title, and FC is a LOMAC add-on.
Changing the name accomplishes nothing.

PS: That doesn't mean that interesting solutions can't happen, you never know.

I thought that was all settled with Flaming Cliffs 2. No matter. Forget about FC3. Just have an DCS add on called ED: The Early Years and include the Su27/33/25, MiG 29A/S/(and K if you really love me), and F-15. No need for any of the old missions and therefore no need for Ubi's blessing.

For ya'll flyin' with CH Products you can get a Command File HERE

If it were that easy legally, ED would have done that prior to at least FC2.

The problem with Lock-on/FC is that Ubi own the rights to the original lock-on aircraft themselves iirc. The SU-25T is the only one that Ubi have no rights to hence ED/TFC can do whatever they want with it, such as give it away as a free module/demonstrator with DCS:World.

GENERAL

Q: What are the system requirements?
A: System requirements are yet to be finalized as the product is still being developed. However, preliminary requirements are as follows:

Minimum system requirements:
Windows XP, Vista, or 7, Core 2 Duo 2.0GHz or equivalent, 3GB RAM, 7GB free hard drive space, 512MB DirectX9-compatible graphics card, DirectX9.0c-compatible sound, requires internet activation.

Recommended system requirements:
64-bit Windows Vista or 7, Core 2 Duo E8400, AMD Phenom X3 8750 or better, 4GB RAM, 7GB free hard drive space, 896MB Geforce GTX260 or better supporting DirectX 9.0c and Shader 3.0, DirectX9.0c-compatible sound, requires internet activation.

Q: Will DCS: P-51D Mustang be online-compatible with other DCS products?
A: Yes, owners of the Mustang will be able to fly online alongside owners of DCS Black Shark and DCS A-10C Warthog, assuming the mission selected for the server is made to accommodate this.

Q: What about future DCS jets?
A: We will continue to develop modern aircraft as well.

Q: When will the P-51 be released?
A: During 2012. However, if you pre-order through digitalcombatsimulator.com you can play the open beta today.

Q: Will a world war 2 era map be included?
A: No, DCS is an open simulation environment, it is not a simulation of a specific time period.

Q: Will units from the world war 2 era exist, like ME-109's and Ju-87's?
A: That has yet to be determined. While we understand the desire for WW2 counterpart aircraft, DCS is not intended to be a full WW2 era simulation.

Q: What about feature X?
A: A more detailed feature list will be made available later, as the product gets closer to release.

Q: Are there any screenshots released?
A: Yes, you can find some screenshots in the announcement, here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?...81&postcount=1

Q: Why was the P-51 selected?
A: The P-51 began as a side project by some of the staff and showed good progress. Rather than put that effort to waste, we decided to flesh it out and release as a new aircraft for DCS.

Q: How is the P-51 supposed to fit into DCS? This makes no sense to me.
A: DCS is an open simulation environment, not confined to any one era, level of fidelity, or 1st party development. In the future ED and 3rd parties may add all sorts of different units ranging from gliders to X-51s.

Q: How is a P-51 supposed to fight in a modern Georgian war against modern aircraft and air defense systems?
A: It simply does not need to. It is up to the mission designer to put what units he or she wishes into the mission.

Q: How much will it cost?
A: The pre-order that gives access to the open beta costs $39.99

Q: Does DCS: P-51D Mustang use copy protection?
A: Yes, it uses the new user-friendly ProActive AAA Technology.
You will no longer have a fixed number of activations, but in an effort to prevent piracy the system does limit the number of activations per month. Your DCS P-51D Mustang serial number is initially set to 8 activations and when they all are spent, 1 activation is added automatically once, after 31 days.
ProActive AAA Technology does not install any drivers on your PC. It works as an integrated part of the DCS files but has no special privileges in your system.
For more information, please refer to this forum thread: http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=59002

Q: Where are my missions, tracks, options settings, and screen shots saved?
A: For Windows 7 users, look in your /Users/(name)/Saved Games/DCS folder. If you wish to do a complete re-installation, you may with to remove this folder.





TECHNICAL

Q: Will DCS: P-51D Mustang use all cores on my CPU?
A: Not fully. It does include the new sound engine which operates in a separate thread.

Q: Will there be a 64-bit version?
A: Yes. We highly recommend using 64-bit operating systems with this product.

Q: I have a 32-bit OS and I am having problems running the game. What should I do?
A: If you use Win 7 \ Vista 32-bit, please read this: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?...20&postcount=8
A: If you use XP 32-bit OS, please use the /3GB Switch. Direction are here: http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?...9&postcount=38

Q: I am having game crashes and stability problems. What should I do?
A: Please make sure you have the latest DirectX (June 2010). http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/e...1-50ceb6d8fa8d
A: If that does not help, make sure you have the latest Microsoft Visual C++. http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?...67&postcount=8
A: Make sure you are using the latest drivers for your graphics card.



GAMEPLAY

Q: Is the K-14A gunsight modeled?
A: Yes.

Q: Will there be missions and a campaign included?
A: There will be training missions, an undetermined number of single missions, and a Challenge Campaign with tasks of ever increasing difficulty.

Q: What weapons will be available for the P-51?
A: The DCS P-51D will be armed with 6 .50 cal. machine guns, 5 in. HVAR unguided rockets, and 500 lbs general purpose bombs. The guns will fire armor-piercing (AP) and armor-piercing incendiary tracer (APIT) rounds. In addition, two 75 gal. drop tanks will be available.

Q: Will we be able to adjust gun settings, such as ammo and convergence range?
A: The DCS P-51D guns are boresighted by default according to standard USAAF guidelines for the Mustang, but adjustment will be possible through a combination of the payload editor and the LUA configuration files.

Q: Does the DCS P-51D include any modern avionics?
A: The only modernized element of the DCS P-51D will be the pilot 3D model, which is based on a contemporary pilot's flight suit and head gear.

Hullo

First time poster I guess - been playing P-51 today and wondered if you guys could help me with some advice?

I'm kinda stuck on the cross-wind take off. Admittedly I switched to realism mode, and removed the assists(?) on the special tab on the controls for rudder.

I can *mostly* take off normally without denting the props, but the cross-wind take off in the campaign has me pumping the rudder pedals and overcompensating one way or the other. Must have tried it 20+ times now and no matter how gentle I am it all swiftly goes out of control.

I reckon loads of you have succeeded in this mission by now so any advice for a newb would be greatly appreciated :-)

Keep your rudder trim at neutral for a crosswind take-off and see if that helps.

Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a go but surely that would just cause engine torque I've balanced for to add to the problem faster than cross winds? Curious to hear your reasoning behind that.

I have to admit now, I can't try advice as I'm sat away from the gaming PC, so apologies for lack of any proper feedback.

I saw a picture of a 190 flying side by side with a Mustang, is that an upcoming mod or what?

And Scribble. Really slow throttle input on takeoff. Never just shove it forward. And lock the tailwheel. (Can the tailwheel on the DCS Mustang be locked?)

Roy, can you give a link to that screenshot, I'd love to see it.

I saw it somewhere on this thread like page 6 or something

this thread is only 4 pages for me.

I must be confusing threads then. I will look for it.

Page 8 of the anouncement thread, third post. Im browsing on my phone so I cant tell if that picture was from another sim, so forgive me if it is.

Here is the link: FW 190

That picture is indeed from DCS P-51D, an internal version, with a 3rd Party Fw-190. I believe (but do not know for sure, so don't complain too loudly if I got this wrong) this aircraft is intended to be released as a free mod by it's author.

Well Im hoping you are right then I know this probably has been asked before but, would it be possible to get the A2A planes into this SIM? If they can get a team who is already working on high fidelity modelling of these aircraft it would make it easier for the guys at ED, that is if it can actually be ported in some way or at leas partially.Forgive me it this is non sense, Im just hoping something similar can be done.

I also made a post earlier last month about an interest in AI planes, Primarily a friendly bomber AI and adversary AI. I think by adding a friendly B17 AI and FW190 adversary AI, the mission developers like myself would be open to hundreds of possible scenarios to play with while maintaining full focus and depth on the P51 Simulation

Only time will tell I guess. :P

Would the author be able to post another `Sneak Peak` picture of the AI aircraft if any exist?