PRE-PURCHASE “DCS: P-51D MUSTANG”

DUXFORD, UK, April 29, 2012 – The Fighter Collection and Eagle Dynamics now offer “DCS: P-51D Mustang” as a digital download pre-purchase for $39.99. Pre-purchase also provides access to pre-release Beta versions of the title.

Pre-purchase "DCS: P-51D Mustang" at:
http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/index.php?end_pos=1322&scr=shop&lang=en

The Mustang was among the best and most well-known fighters used by the U.S. Army Air Forces during World War II. Possessing excellent range and maneuverability, the P-51 operated primarily as a long-range escort fighter and also as a ground attack fighter-bomber with bombs, rockets, and machine guns. The Mustang served in nearly every combat zone during WWII and proved to be what many consider the most successful fighter in history.

The DCS: P-51D Mustang offers both highly-detailed simulation and easy-to-play "game" mode options for both hardcore and casual gamers. When in simulation mode, this is the most authentic simulation of the P-51D Mustang that has ever been done for the PC. Enjoy both the thrill of flying this warbird and operating its various weapons against a variety of ground and airborne targets.

An interactive training system puts you in the cockpit with an instructor as he walks you step-by-step of learning to fly the Mustang.

A powerful yet easy-to-use mission editor allows you to create your own missions and campaigns. A one-click Mission Generator also allows you to instantly create battles as small or large as you wish.

Fly online with built-in server browser that supports up to 32 players in both head-to-head and cooperative gameplay. Fly online with other DCS aircraft like the Black Shark and the A-10C Warthog.

Features of the DCS: P-51D Mustang:

• Highly detailed six-degrees-of-freedom cockpit. Interact with cockpit controls with your mouse.
• Unmatched flight physics and that allow you to truly feel what it's like to fly this legend.
• Accurate P-51D Mustang model, squadron markings, and weapons.
• Detailed modeling the P-51D Mustang instruments, weapon, engine, radios, fuel, electrical, and hydraulic systems.
• Take part in a Challenge Campaign to test your flying and combat skills.

Is there a proper start-up?

$40! It better had!

Damn, I was going to say NO on this... but... lol

(wish they would of said Torret download only, BEFORE I bought... i don't do torret. oh well, guess I'll wait now.)

Boy, it's nice, but...I was not expecting forty bucks.

For $40, I would hope that's a full title in a new location with Axis opponents than a tack-on to the current DCS universe.

I want it, but I don't want to engage MiGs in it. I'll wait for some brave soul to report back.

I'm thinking the same thing. Surely this hasn't had the same amount of work put into it as blackshark or the A-10? I mean their are practically no systems to model, compared to Blackshark and A-10.

For $40 I at least want to know that a proper theater and collection of appropriate friendly AI and enemy
AC are planned for down the road. WII or Korea, just let me know what the plan is.

I'm feeling better and better by the moment for sticking with my original plan to keep my money for now.
It would even be a shame in a way to go with Korea where the Mustang is relegated to mud moving, much better
to take it though it's paces in it's prime against German AC, but even Korea would be far better than the
friggin Mojave desert, Vegas, and T72's.

Boy, it's nice, but...I was not expecting forty bucks.

$40 is the price of most high quality FSX add ons. What were you expecting?

I wonder why people aren't complaining to A2A about there not being a war setting for their aircraft... Personally, "double standard" comes to mind.

Now, if you feel that the A2A planes aren't your cup of tea either, that's all fine. If this isn't for you it isn't for you, but why would ED be perpetually restricted to serving only one market? Look at the bigger picture and you'll notice some very interesting things that are happening.

DCS World is a single, unified core for all DCS products to operating within. Rather than separate installations for each DCS products, the single DCS world interface allows the user to access all of their DCS products in a common user interface. DCS world also includes a DCS News service and will allow users to purchase DCS titles through the interface at a later point.

DCS World will be updated as DCS evolves with changes to the rendering system, AI units, AI logics, effects, etc. All aspect of the simulation, outside the flyable aircraft, add-on maps, and other paid-for content.

The current DCE World is still in beta and will evolve over time with new features.

The initial DCE World comes with a free flyable aircraft, the Su-25T (exported from Flaming Cliffs 2).

I wonder why people aren't complaining to A2A about there not being a war setting for their aircraft... Personally, "double standard" comes to mind.

Now, if you feel that the A2A planes aren't your cup of tea either, that's all fine. If this isn't for you it isn't for you, but why would ED be perpetually restricted to serving only one market? Look at the bigger picture and you'll notice some very interesting things that are happening.

Hey thx for the news... downloading via torrent after all... but slow as heck, 50% after about 4 hours... thought torrent was fast. lol

And correct... I know 3 DSC forum mods are over here, that great but we will police SimHQ. We allow opinions and disagreements on the product and price, as long as it's not persona attacks. So Thanks.

Sorry FearlessFrog, I assumed I was allowed to comment on what people said. That's sort of what we do in forums, right?
Right here people are commenting on a product, complaining about the pricetag, and I express my inability to understand that complaint and pointing out the inherent double-standard of that complaint. (Basically the point being that this complaint was not leveraged against other companies releasing the same type of product - that requires a double standard, not as a sort of moral judgement, just as a pure fact. Everyone does this about something, just usually uncounsciously, wherefore I personally find it to actually be helpful to have it pointed out - when it isn't pointed out to me I risk continuing in that error. )

Personally I think it's because people have sort of decided what ED is "doing" and anything that doesn't fit that expectation makes people disappointed since it isn't what they excepted. Sort of like how people were up in arms at the new Syndicate game or when Microsoft Flight wasn't the same type of product as the old MSFS series.

To make the simple comparison:
A2A products: Just fine and dandy, superb stuff, give us more please.
ED's P-51D: Not fine, too expensive, needs WW2 map, needs WW2 opponents etcetera etcetera.

I cannot be the only one that does not understand the above, right?
Personally, I like both of them. (Even though they both commit the crime of not selling us AT-802U's, I can forgive them.)

Now, if you're one of the people that wouldn't purchase the A2A planes either, then that's fine. That's not what I'm adressing.

I just want people to feel they are able to speak freely without being ganged up on by either supporters or complainers.

You are allowed, of course, to comment on what people say but consider the questions of 'Are you going to add a rebuttal to every single negative thing you see about ED's products?' because if you (or other ED moderators/testers) are then we have a problem.

I would have thought SimHQ was one of the more impartial forums about, no?

Nate

BTW the Su-25T Russian attack aircraft from FC2 is free as part of the DCS download with P-51 - Download it, it's free.

http://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/in...135&lang=en



Nate

I just want people to feel they are able to speak freely without being ganged up on by either supporters or complainers.

You are allowed, of course, to comment on what people say but consider the questions of 'Are you going to add a rebuttal to every single negative thing you see about ED's products?' because if you (or other ED moderators/testers) are then we have a problem.

Whoa! Wait, whaaaaat???!!

SU-25T as well? full fidelity? Start-up and all systems working?

This may be a different matter

Bogusheadbox, I think it's fairly obvious I'm not talking about a stratocruiser. However, I might be talking about the B-17, The P-47, the P-40, the Spitfire, the FW-190 etcetera.
https://www.a2asimulations.com/store/

That's my point. I thought it was obvious I was talking in the context of warbirds.

And TFC has a flying P-51D, so bringing a flying P-51D into the modern world is obviously not insane either since they are flying, right now. Same thing with A2A Accusim P-51. It doesn't make "sense" as a WW2 simulator, but as a simulation _of that plane_ it's awesome, imo.

Whoa! Wait, whaaaaat???!!

SU-25T as well? full fidelity? Start-up and all systems working?

This may be a different matter

I don't see anyone being ganged up on, myself. I see a LOT of posts of the complainers though. Making a single reply to give a contrary opinion can't be bad, given that context, no?



Take a brief look at my posting frequency and you'll see how likely that is. :P I wouldn't have the time to do so even if I wanted to (which I don't).

A single post is not a "ganging up". But how about just taking this to PM if you have further complaints? Probably works better rather than polluting this thread.

Whoa! Wait, whaaaaat???!!

SU-25T as well? full fidelity? Start-up and all systems working?

This may be a different matter

To manage exceptions, this is a direct port of the Su-25T from FC2 (which we have the property rights to). Please do not expect the same feature set as the A-10C, Ka-50 and P-51D.

Sooooooo... new sub forum?

Guessing the ultimate end game is an integrated land/air/sea combatsim. DCS/ED is set up for that. You know Oleg was trying before he bailed.
DiD (EF2000 folks) gave it a go 12yrs ago.

"The future is so bright, I need shades to see!"

Will there be either a WW2 or Korea campaign to fly combat missions in?

Nate, do you intend to give the P-51 pilot , WW2 headgear, one day?

Does it work?

You can download and install those modules into DCS:-World - if you already have Warthog and Black Shark activated, you can fly straight away in DCS:-World.

EDIT:- A-10 and Ka-50 Modules are due soon*

Nate

*Soon is any time before the end of civilisation.

It doesn't make "sense" as a WW2 simulator, but as a simulation _of that plane_ it's awesome

there are mods in the works

Check 1min34sec on that video, the aircraft parked up on the side... anyone notice the last one

And if modders can make a B17 they can presumably make some AI targets?

Just spent the last 2 hours flying this thing.

Just shut up and get it.

It's freaking awesome.

Quite possibly.

That is a very nice looking FW-190 model.

OK, I'm maybe getting it.

To ensure you are experiencing the full effects of the FM, make sure the Auto-rudder and Takeoff Assist options are disabled

Current A-10C and BS2 keys will be accepted by World after the next patches to make these World modules

Quite possibly.

Is this photo- shopped?

Slightly worrying that you all seem to manage to fly it quite easily. Wasn't engine management supposed to be really hard? In CoD most users absolutely do not manage to fly with Complex Engine Management turned on unless they really read up on it...

Hey Frey, the CEM in CoD lays an excellent groundwork, IMHO, for more detailed cockpits such as A2A's Wings of Power 3 Spitfire and now DCS P51D. As FF said below, heat management is not simulated in DCS P51D, so less chance of frying a Merlin like you can do in CoD......or ESPECIALLY in A2A WOP3 Spits.

What I'm finding is that the DCS P51D is a torque monster. On take off there's no slamming the throttle WFO on this sucker without then putting it through the MacDonald's drive-through at your immediate 2 o'clock -- two blocks over. LOL.

Also, finding low level flight that greater speed is gained at full boost but prop pitch control backed off from 3000 rpms down to approx 2650 rpms. I have the luxury (for now) of not burning out Merlin's with this beta, so it's fun experimenting.

Then again, still working my way through the 183-page manual, so all this may be covered.

- I *still* get those white square graphic artifacts on a ATI card. I was hopeful the new DCS World would sort that out, but no luck.

Any ETA on when the plane goes gold?

Slightly worrying that you all seem to manage to fly it quite easily. Wasn't engine management supposed to be really hard? In CoD most users absolutely do not manage to fly with Complex Engine Management turned on unless they really read up on it...

I won't swear on it, but I have a vague memory of this being a driver issue that ED has been trying to alert AMD to, apparently so far without success. You could try a different driver I suppose if it gets really annoying, but I don't recall for sure which drivers are less likely to exhibit this behaviour.

Which card and which driver do you use? I could try to crossref and see if I can find something.

I have a ATI 6970 card also and I turned HDR off until a fix comes out. At least one person has been in contact with AMD and Their Tech support has acknowledged the issue and was going to escalate it up, but have not implemented a fix as of yet. I started a thread on the DCS Forums

http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=77371 Post 86 is where the poster mentions AMD has acknowledged the issue as a driver problem

..AI P51 pilots who are a bit too super-human at the moment!

I'm a long time reader, 1st time poster, This is a great game and I'm loving DCS - P51.

I have a question and I'm sure others are wondering the same...

A few posts back are screenshots of the FW109 and B17, are there any websites that we can follow along and watch development of these cool addon modules?

Can't wait to add in the B17 and fly escort

How hard would it be for someone who has develped an aircraft for FSX to port that over to DCS World?

I believe Luckybob is working on a step-by-step guide for exactly this.