Exactly. So we can go play one of those other Great War air combat simulat.... oh.

Oh, really?

Their business model does not really give a lot of room for engine modifications that wont bring in more paying customers. I hope that they can see that fixing the gunner would bring in more customers though.

Right now any free account can gun for someone. First thing that they do is learn that they can blow their own wing/tail off. That ends with the pilot cussing them out and either locking them out or kicking them out of the next flight. Then they learn that the whole gunner system is extremely screwed up in that when you least expect or want it to, shooting at an enemy plane, it acts the worst and prevents you from doing the only thing the gunner CAN do and that is shoot the enemy.

So you come out of your demo of the game thinking wow if the gunner is this screwed up why should I even stay let alone buy things for this game.

How is that a good thing for the sim? How do you expect to recruit paying customers like that? My mind is baffled at how this has not been fixed for so long.

The vast majority who come to RoF are interested in flying, not playing a FPS in the air. Still, you are right that it could be a turn off for some.

Some have said that RoF has gone overboard with graphical enhancements instead of improving the simulation side of things. Hopefully that will change in the future. We're still hoping for correct wind vector resolution, Lewis and Parabellum guns (a big deal for those who like to gun from the observer's seat), flight model reviews, and so on. Maybe Luke knows something we don't know, but for now I haven't seen indication that these things are going to be improved in our beloved sim.

Hey, you have stated your case and you seem to have a good one, so don't ruin it by becoming unnecessarily whiny and repetitive. There's a fine line between raising a valid compaint and getting into non-productive incessant whining (like some sad gits have done in the past). No need to go down that road.

As I am sure you realise there ARE very many balls to keep in the air when you are the developer of a fringe sim with a rather small customer base. Respect that they have priorities. I am sure they have noted your issue down, now it is time to step respectfully back and let them deal with it as they seem fit (imho). Anything else is just not productive...

IMHO, they've done a very good job of balancing improvements to the underlying engine with profitable content (ie. things they can actually sell in order to stay in business).

However, it would be great to have additional controls for the gun rings, better modelling of g-force effects, wind - and especially - gun recoil, on how easy it is to move the gun.

Lets fix the gunners, so when the plane is rolled inverted they fall out. Or when the pilot yaws like he has restless leg syndrome they knock themselves out with the weapons. Or when the pilot pulls back too hard the gunner is too busy trying to not go through the belly side of the plane's fabric. or.....

The observer/rear gunner is broken, just less in the direction some want it to be "fixed."

Sure ?

You either have information we donīt have, or you are talking b...sh.t. If you have free time, make a list of all fixes of "real game play" they made in the last 3 years. It will not fit on one page.