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#3559863 - 04/20/12 02:56 PM
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It seems the promised patch is broken- don't know if this means it will be fixed soon or if it will be another 6 months to a year. They say they are going back to beginning.
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#3559866 - 04/20/12 03:02 PM
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They say they are going back to beginning. What beginning?
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#3559869 - 04/20/12 03:06 PM
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There was a lot of speculating,bantering and arguing on the IC forum,but they locked the post yesterday I think! Why?
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#3559873 - 04/20/12 03:08 PM
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I hope it's only back to the beginning of the industrial revolution, not the beginning of man's use of tools. Sticks and stones may not be that helpful.
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#3559875 - 04/20/12 03:09 PM
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Going back to the beginning? i thought they said compiling a new version? maybe a week?
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#3559876 - 04/20/12 03:11 PM
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http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=31264Maybe I miss read? They will start to compile a new version at the beginning of next week. No estimate as to how long that will take. Compiling the last one has taken since last fall.
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#3559878 - 04/20/12 03:15 PM
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I could not be bothered to read the 11 pages again, but I see the answer in the first sentence
'I have to tell you is very bad news - the current beta version of the patch didn't pass internal test and was sent back for revision. We plan to assemble the new version only at the beginning of the next week.' - BlackSix
So it's the beginning of the week, not industrial revolution. I'm glad
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#3559916 - 04/20/12 04:22 PM
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But they are beginning to compile a new version. So back to 10/2011 again?
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#3559920 - 04/20/12 04:29 PM
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If compile means rewrites and completing features in the game then maybe. I don't think compile means this however
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#3559975 - 04/20/12 05:55 PM
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They've probably compiled and tested fifty or more versions of the graphic/performance patch in the last few months. I wouldn't be too worried just yet, it just means rewriting a small portion of the latest version of the patch in a way that they hope will fix the latest bug/bugs.
Edited by Chivas (04/20/12 05:56 PM)
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#3559977 - 04/20/12 05:59 PM
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'Compile' in this context almost certainly means 'run a compiler'. A compiler is a computer program that takes the source code and assets and produces binary files that run. The programmers edit the source code (C++/C#) and these get fed into the compiler that then produces the .exe's and libraries that go to make up a 'build'. Ref 4 here http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/compile
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#3559988 - 04/20/12 06:31 PM
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Any idea how long it takes on average to "run a compiler" frog? Though i guess they have to fix it first.
Edited by BKHZ_Furbs (04/20/12 06:32 PM)
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#3559997 - 04/20/12 06:45 PM
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The compiles don't take long with decent hardware and a 'pipeline' that's automated a fair bit (convert image formats, pre-process a bunch of stuff) - say 20 minutes for a decent sized game. A few years back 'overnight builds' used be the norm, but tools/hardware tend to be quicker now. The trick is usually making the changes and getting everyone coordinated etc. (oh - you left my tweak in, you should take that out etc) With most things in programming, it's the thinking part that's hard, as the computers are just really quick at either doing stuff right or wrong - it's the fleshy thing in-front of the keyboard that's usually the bottleneck. 
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#3560045 - 04/20/12 08:18 PM
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That's interesting information, I see why they call you Fearless
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#3560054 - 04/20/12 08:26 PM
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I dont know why theu just didnt throw it out there and let us play with it. Say its another couple of weeks and they know it is flawed, see what we can find. If it is simply terrible we can roll it back so no big deal. Maybe the big crushing secret is in there and they dont want us to see it yet ? A couple of thousand beta testers is surely better than their resources yeh ?
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#3560062 - 04/20/12 08:40 PM
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Jeeza, don't put thoughts of 'crushing secrets' in my brain I'm delicate enough 
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#3560080 - 04/20/12 09:15 PM
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With most things in programming, it's the thinking part that's hard, as the computers are just really quick at either doing stuff right or wrong - it's the fleshy thing in-front of the keyboard that's usually the bottleneck. While what Fearless says is true. You do know there's porn on the internet. Should keep ya busy while they sort it out.
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#3560081 - 04/20/12 09:16 PM
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I have a hunch it's the gear shift in the new drivable jeep that keeps grinding away and is holding up the entire works. Once they've settled on a keyboard assignment that effectively double declutches the new beta will be issued. You heard it here first, folks! 
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#3560233 - 04/21/12 07:45 AM
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Sticks and stones may not be that helpful. They might not be of much use to the programmers trying to re-compile the patch, but I do believe they could be useful to some angry, fed-up community members to "re-compile" the programmers  I mean, right now it's like 1C is saying Jehovah every Friday... Cheers Nico
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#3561022 - 04/22/12 04:48 PM
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Just upgraded from intern
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A couple of thousand beta testers is surely better than their resources yeh ? Wait, wait, wait - you mean there is a release version of this sim?
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#3561034 - 04/22/12 05:10 PM
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A couple of thousand beta testers is surely better than their resources yeh ? Wait, wait, wait - you mean there is a release version of this sim? Yep - considering a review?
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#3561062 - 04/22/12 05:59 PM
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A couple of thousand beta testers is surely better than their resources yeh ? Wait, wait, wait - you mean there is a release version of this sim? Yep - considering a review? Agreed, I think we can take Dart's comment as a full commitment to writing a review
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#3561563 - 04/23/12 04:26 PM
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Whats that old saying...no news is good news
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#3561575 - 04/23/12 04:44 PM
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Ah yes old sayings, a whole new frontier for us to explore. Great idea SlipBall
Here's one; 'Love me, love my dog'
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#3561578 - 04/23/12 04:57 PM
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#3561586 - 04/23/12 05:03 PM
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A couple of patches are.. two peas in a pod
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#3561628 - 04/23/12 07:20 PM
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#3561690 - 04/23/12 10:07 PM
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..the patch is not out there
it is not in here...
it is not nowhere..
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#3561698 - 04/23/12 10:21 PM
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is. is it not better to give than to deceive
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#3561796 - 04/24/12 05:09 AM
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#3565055 - 04/30/12 10:59 AM
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'Compile' in this context almost certainly means 'run a compiler'. A compiler is a computer program that takes the source code and assets and produces binary files that run. The programmers edit the source code (C++/C#) and these get fed into the compiler that then produces the .exe's and libraries that go to make up a 'build'. Ref 4 here http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/compile Still think they just needed to run the compiler again? Must be doing it on a 8086 with 64kb...
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#3565089 - 04/30/12 01:00 PM
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'Compile' in this context almost certainly means 'run a compiler'. A compiler is a computer program that takes the source code and assets and produces binary files that run. The programmers edit the source code (C++/C#) and these get fed into the compiler that then produces the .exe's and libraries that go to make up a 'build'. Ref 4 here http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/compile Still think they just needed to run the compiler again? Must be doing it on a 8086 with 64kb... 4/10 - Must try harder, please put some effort in. lol
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#3565319 - 04/30/12 10:22 PM
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lol
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#3567770 - 05/05/12 10:46 AM
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It's like 8PM over at their office, B6 said something coming this evening I got a feeling its the patch. 
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#3567804 - 05/05/12 12:17 PM
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It's like 8PM over at their office, B6 said something coming this evening I got a feeling its the patch. Or they're trying to release the patch but some thing has slowed them down. This is now driving me nuts 
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#3567806 - 05/05/12 12:21 PM
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1C Forum is now in full F5 mode
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#3567807 - 05/05/12 12:21 PM
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Ha ha, steady men today is da patch
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#3567813 - 05/05/12 12:37 PM
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#3567825 - 05/05/12 12:57 PM
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Ha ha, steady men today is da patch I think you'll find you're quite wrong SlipBall, as the chances of the patch being.. ..oh. 
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