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#3623761 - 08/10/12 12:24 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Another try at two targets:
The first one is destroyed correctly.
After acquisition of the second one, no missiles was actually show, only marks at the lower edge of the screen as it was mention by I think Lonewolf. I changed launcher to PU2 and fired again. Both missiles hit the target....

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Asuluk training ground.

Practice target:
LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk
LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk

S-125M1 Neva


00:00, Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk launched

01:00, Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk launched

00:03:00, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 23km
Target azimuth: 70
Target elevation: 2
Target altitude: 996m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:03:06, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 21km
Target azimuth: 70
Target elevation: 2
Target altitude: 996m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:03:24, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 2m)

00:03:28, Missile exploded on Channel-2
Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 3m)

00:04:18, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 16km
Target azimuth: 82
Target elevation: 2
Target altitude: 665m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:04:23, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 14km
Target azimuth: 83
Target elevation: 2
Target altitude: 567m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:04:49, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 7km
Target azimuth: 95
Target elevation: 5
Target altitude: 727m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:04:54, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 6km
Target azimuth: 104
Target elevation: 6
Target altitude: 738m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:04:59, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 32m)

00:05:04, Missile exploded on Channel-2
Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 101m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 5min 0sec


Here is a development SAMSIM version, that writes "NE ZAHVAT" into the after action report, if the missile is lost for this reason.

http://www.mediafire.com/?pcwm8lijpbcfrww

Just download and exchange "sam.exe"


Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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Inline advert (2nd and 3rd post)

#3623763 - 08/10/12 12:27 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Great, I will try, thanks :-)

#3623798 - 08/10/12 01:10 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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The same situation, the second salvo failed at all. No NE ZAHVAT message.

Click to reveal..
Asuluk training ground.

Practice target:
LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk
LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk

S-125M1 Neva


00:00, Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk launched

01:00, Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk launched

00:02:54, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 23km
Target azimuth: 75
Target elevation: 1
Target altitude: 599m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:02:59, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 21km
Target azimuth: 75
Target elevation: 1
Target altitude: 599m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:03:18, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 3m)

00:03:21, Missile exploded on Channel-2
Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 4m)

00:04:09, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 18km
Target azimuth: 84
Target elevation: 2
Target altitude: 930m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:04:14, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 17km
Target azimuth: 82
Target elevation: 2
Target altitude: 720m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:04:26, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 14km
Target azimuth: 76
Target elevation: 2
Target altitude: 610m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:04:31, V601P 5V27U Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 12km
Target azimuth: 72
Target elevation: 2
Target altitude: 552m
Missile guidance method: PS (Lead)


00:04:42, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 3m)

00:04:45, Missile exploded on Channel-2
Practice target LA-17M [program-1] simulating A-4 Skyhawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 0m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 4min 34sec

#3623857 - 08/10/12 02:07 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]  
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Than this will need further investigation...
... but during the next two weeks, I will be in Holiday...
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Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home

While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3623860 - 08/10/12 02:13 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Then enjoy it and we will patiently wait for your return thumbsup

#3625719 - 08/13/12 08:45 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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hummmm it seems hp edit some line of programing ! rolleyes

hpasp should explain about it sigh

Last edited by milang; 08/13/12 10:10 PM.
#3626049 - 08/14/12 10:54 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Anyway, I think I got the method how to shoot the SR-71 down with a conventional warhead. Many times I have thought how to get missiles to the vicinity of the desired impact point in a straight way and do not lose energy and time by manouvering.
So I pointed SNR at about 52 degrees in azimuth and about 22 degrees in elevation. Fixed, no target tracking.
When SR-71 is about 105km far I fired three by six (three missiles with 6s delay) and waited for the SR71 to come to the vertical marks in azimuth and elevation and enabled tracking.
This seems to be working but I do not have enough time to precisely tune azimuth and elevation angles as well as distance of the SR-71 in the moment of shooting.
If someone could get it to the perfection I will be glad smile2

#3626068 - 08/14/12 11:48 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]  
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Yes, that 1,4km is an error - SNR thinks missile and its target are at the same place,so it sends K3 command to detonate warhead.
Even if you set altitude/distance correctly you do not know how reliable your source of this info is.
Try to get the distance information from your radar and set it as soon as possible to I-87V (remember SR-71's huge speed).
Anyways, 1,4km for a nuclear warhead with yield of 15kt is sufficient, isn't it? thumbsup

SR-71 can be shot down on incoming course, there are two main problems we are facing in El Dorado Canyon:
- target is jamming SNR so we do not have realiable tracking in distance and we must rely on I-87V
- target just touches the destruction zone of S-75 and at the edge of it it makes a turn at Mach 3.

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