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#3558668 - 04/18/12 08:01 PM OT- Propellor tip markings info needed
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Hi Guys,

After a ten or more year break my son AJ has finally persuaded me to start building 1/72 scale model aircraft again and I am starting with a mixture of Russian, French and Italian to replace old kits I threw away. I need to pick your brains on propellor tip markings for these 3 countries!

I am pretty sure that British and American planes with black coloured propellors had yellow tips, perhaps to try and warn people from walking into the revolving blades? Likewise Japanese planes with either black or brown coloured props also seem to generally had yellow tips whilst the earlier US and Jap planes with silver blades seem to have had a mixture or thin red stripes or in the case of the USN red yellow and blue. The Luftwaffe, contrary to the early Airix instructions, do not seem to have had yellow tips at all.

Getting back to the enquiry I have lots of B/W photos of Russian, French and Italian aircraft, but given the limitations of the film at that time it is not easy to be absolutely certain. It looks like few if any Russian aircraft had yellow tips (I am deliberately excluding Lend-Lease planes here) about 20% of French planes seem to have had yellow tips, and perhaps 30% of Italian.

What I need is any relevant information you have and in particular I need to know if there is a pattern based on particular aircraft types, or perhaps theatre of operations or date. For example the Airfix Fiat G50 has a silver prop with no tip markings, but the Frog Mc202 and Italeri Mc205 both have black blades with yellow tips, whilst the Airfix IL2M has plain black blades but their Pe-2 not only has yellow tips to the black blades but also has a wide red stripe inboard of the yellow.

Any information will be most useful.

Cheers,

Pete


Edited by PeterMBooth (04/21/12 02:11 PM)
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#3560403 - 04/21/12 02:19 PM Re: OT- Propellor tip markings info needed [Re: PeterMBooth]
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anybody out there?
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#3560512 - 04/21/12 05:47 PM Re: OT- Propellor tip markings info needed [Re: PeterMBooth]
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#3561409 - 04/23/12 11:53 AM Re: OT- Propellor tip markings info needed [Re: PeterMBooth]
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It's hard to give general rules but to my believe and looking to original photos:

- Italian began with grey propeller without colored tips. During 1941 and 1942 they slowly turned to black propeller with smaller yellow tips than those from the allied.

-Russian also started with natural metal propeller and turned to black ones without colored tips after barbarossa.

-French 39/40: most airplanes got black propeller without colored tips. Indeed some airplanes and especially the MS 406 are often saw with two white stripes on the tips. And some older ones could have unpainted metal propellers. In 1944 they also added yellow tips.

- Finnish used propellers as they came from delivery. It's only in 1944 that they added yellow tips to all of them.

Hope this can help...

Cheers,

Olivier

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#3561780 - 04/24/12 02:43 AM Re: OT- Propellor tip markings info needed [Re: PeterMBooth]
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Hey Olivier,

long time not seen. smile

Still no time to play online??

All the best!

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#3562154 - 04/24/12 05:54 PM Re: OT- Propellor tip markings info needed [Re: PeterMBooth]
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Hi Guys,

Thanks for that. Think I will stick with no yellow tips on non lend-lease Russian, and also French 1939/40. Italians I will probably give yellow tips to MC202/205 only.

Cheers.

Pete
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