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#3558841 - 04/19/12 02:18 AM Re: Ramp Startup - is the manual right? [Re: BillyRiley]
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I don't want to call you a liar - but that seems very optimistic ;-)

The A-10C takes me maybe 5 mins - and that was going back to it with my startup sheet from more than a month away.


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#3558882 - 04/19/12 06:26 AM Re: Ramp Startup - is the manual right? [Re: BillyRiley]
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Grey Ghost is often wrong neaner

But in this instance he is right. That is about all it takes to get her up and going (once you are used to it)

Just remember that at the moment you are being delivered your aircraft in a pristine condition. There are no failures or fatigue on the aircraft.

Therefore a lot of safety check that you would normally do are not needed as you already know that the airframe and systems are correct.

So all you have to do is fire up apu, then engines and systems, you are good to go.


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#3558898 - 04/19/12 07:48 AM Re: Ramp Startup - is the manual right? [Re: BillyRiley]
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The first two videos on the link provided by Jaximus were a great help.

The problem with the videos on youtube are it's hit and miss whether the one you select is actually the correct/all the content you need. That's not a criticism of people making the videos - it's just difficult sometime to get the right video...the ones on the link from Jaximus look great

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#3558947 - 04/19/12 09:43 AM Re: Ramp Startup - is the manual right? [Re: bogusheadbox]
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You're a funny guy wink

But yep - and maybe it's even a little surprising that alignments and all that fun stuff don't take quite as long on the shark.

Originally Posted By: bogusheadbox
Grey Ghost is often wrong neaner

But in this instance he is right. That is about all it takes to get her up and going (once you are used to it)

Just remember that at the moment you are being delivered your aircraft in a pristine condition. There are no failures or fatigue on the aircraft.

Therefore a lot of safety check that you would normally do are not needed as you already know that the airframe and systems are correct.

So all you have to do is fire up apu, then engines and systems, you are good to go.
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#3558948 - 04/19/12 09:43 AM Re: Ramp Startup - is the manual right? [Re: BillyRiley]
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I -believe- someone was making training missions for BS2 just like the ones in A-10C. You may want to look for those.

Originally Posted By: BillyRiley
The first two videos on the link provided by Jaximus were a great help.

The problem with the videos on youtube are it's hit and miss whether the one you select is actually the correct/all the content you need. That's not a criticism of people making the videos - it's just difficult sometime to get the right video...the ones on the link from Jaximus look great
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#3559017 - 04/19/12 11:21 AM Re: Ramp Startup - is the manual right? [Re: GrayGhost]
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Originally Posted By: GrayGhost
I -believe- someone was making training missions for BS2 just like the ones in A-10C. You may want to look for those.

Just around the corner...
BS2 Interactive Training missions

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#3559213 - 04/19/12 03:49 PM Re: Ramp Startup - is the manual right? [Re: BillyRiley]
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Brilliant - thx

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#3559461 - 04/19/12 11:09 PM Re: Ramp Startup - is the manual right? [Re: BillyRiley]
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You can go from cold bird to flying in about 90 seconds. It's all a matter of timing. The doppler nav will come up about 30 seconds after that, but it's not critical for flight and initializes just fine while in motion. I think the ABRIS may still be warming up, too, but rest of the systems will be up and fine.

Of course, a real Ka-50 would never be started up that quick - the INS takes minutes to align, not instantaneous like in the sim, and no sane pilot would put that stress on the APU and engines. But it could be done in the sim.

Here's an optimized scramble start list I made back in the day. Should still apply to Black Shark 2.

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#3559528 - 04/20/12 02:20 AM Re: Ramp Startup - is the manual right? [Re: BillyRiley]
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Thanks EinsteinEP - I've actually had a hard drive clean - I'm coming back to simming.

In my early years on the computer (93) I was into simming, be it space, flight or racing and I left the genre and went to strategy wargaming...but I've made the decision that I'm never going to get any pleasure or mileage out of these sims whilst I have other choices...I just don't put the time in.

So last night I cleared 350GB of games off my drive - and I have DCS Black Shark, DCS A-10C a couple of racing and sport games and 2 strategy games.

I will learn this sim!

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#3559715 - 04/20/12 11:21 AM Re: Ramp Startup - is the manual right? [Re: EinsteinEP]
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I can't recall if there's a separate INS unit or if the DNS is essentially the INU.

Originally Posted By: EinsteinEP
Of course, a real Ka-50 would never be started up that quick - the INS takes minutes to align, not instantaneous like in the sim, and no sane pilot would put that stress on the APU and engines. But it could be done in the sim.
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