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#3558071 - 04/17/12 08:58 PM Re: Off target with LBGs? [Re: XRay_Specs]
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I think all of the advice here has helped me understand what I was doing wrong - particularly lasing too soon and wasting course correction energy since, as GrayGhost and Wrecking Crew said, it's "bang-bang" correction (I remember that from the manual now that you've mentioned it). I'll give it a few more tries tonight, making sure I'm at a higher altitude and probably taking GrayGhost's initial advice to auto-lase 15 seconds from impact. Thanks everyone!

I prefer 38's as well really, especially since not having to keep the laser trained makes breaking off easier. Plus, don't modern tanks have sensors and alarms to tell them they're being lased? Not much they could do about it in their last fifteen seconds I guess though biggrin


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#3558126 - 04/17/12 11:38 PM Re: Off target with LBGs? [Re: XRay_Specs]
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Little something about lasers: http://www.marcorsyscom.usmc.mil/sites/fss/Documents/Presentation/04_LASERTHEORY_Presentation.pdf

I doubt all these effects are modeled into the sim, but it may be interesting to some to understand some of the real-world physics, and the difference between the flashlight effect and the podium effect!
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#3558165 - 04/18/12 02:03 AM Re: Off target with LBGs? [Re: XRay_Specs]
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Interesting read, thanks! It never occurred to me that laser energy might diverge so much over range.

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#3558282 - 04/18/12 09:49 AM Re: Off target with LBGs? [Re: XRay_Specs]
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Originally Posted By: XRay_Specs
I prefer 38's as well really, especially since not having to keep the laser trained makes breaking off easier.


Not very useful for moving targets.

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Plus, don't modern tanks have sensors and alarms to tell them they're being lased? Not much they could do about it in their last fifteen seconds I guess though biggrin


That depends ... if they're near cover, and the engine is on, and they realize that it's an airborne attack, they can do a few things. But yeah ... it depends.
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#3558287 - 04/18/12 09:51 AM Re: Off target with LBGs? [Re: EinsteinEP]
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They aren't. I doubt there's even beam divergence - basically those effects are not really needed in the sim, but I think if there was an opportunity to do so, they ought to make it happen smile

Also, similar things are missing from radio and IR simulation. The problem is that once you introduce multi-path problems, you have to start introducting multi-path solutions to your radars, missiles, etc.

Originally Posted By: EinsteinEP
I doubt all these effects are modeled into the sim, but it may be interesting to some to understand some of the real-world physics, and the difference between the flashlight effect and the podium effect!
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#3559670 - 04/20/12 10:04 AM Re: Off target with LBGs? [Re: XRay_Specs]
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Originally Posted By: XRay_Specs

- No options set up in DSMS, simply selected GBU-12



Actually, the GBU-12 comes up in CCIP mode in the DSMS by default. When you select the GBU-12, go to the Profile page and change from CCIP to CCRP, then click SAVE, then return to the main page. I don't think that your HUD mode will change the weapon profile and I'm not in a place where I can test it, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

Also, if you select another weapon before releasing your -12, and then come back to the -12, you will have to set it up again. Unless, you go in and edit the profile from the ... uh, my memory is failing me here. Inventory page? Search these forums and you will certainly find it.

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#3559714 - 04/20/12 11:18 AM Re: Off target with LBGs? [Re: Goblin]
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Originally Posted By: Goblin
Originally Posted By: XRay_Specs

- No options set up in DSMS, simply selected GBU-12



Actually, the GBU-12 comes up in CCIP mode in the DSMS by default. When you select the GBU-12, go to the Profile page and change from CCIP to CCRP, then click SAVE, then return to the main page. I don't think that your HUD mode will change the weapon profile and I'm not in a place where I can test it, but I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.


No, the HUD mode won't change the weapon profile, but it will change the release method. It's like a manual override. You select GBU-12, master mode to CCRP and you're done, no need to mess with DSMS.
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#3561216 - 04/23/12 12:35 AM Re: Off target with LBGs? [Re: XRay_Specs]
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The DSMS PROF CCIP/CCRP is the initial HUD mode option. Picking a profile with a CCIP option and manually cycling to CCRP (or the reverse) is functionally identical to picking a profile that is set to CCRP initially. It's just a time saver. A nice time saver, but just that.

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