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#3488856 - 01/06/12 11:24 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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The question yet?

In the December 26 bombing mission.

How to understand what the purpose to intercept them there is a lot on the screen.

There are so many!

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#3488993 - 01/06/12 02:25 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Originally Posted By: Hpasp
I have no idea - it seems that the extent of damage is very limited, but another site also confirms the finding of a foreign object embedded in the airframe, and gives a data and type (A12 {CIA? Pilot Dennis Sullivan} 30Oct67).

Luckily the secrecy is removed...

http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_0001474320/DOC_0001474320.pdf
http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_0001465781/DOC_0001465781.pdf
http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_0001474325/DOC_0001474325.pdf
http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_0001473841/DOC_0001473841.pdf
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http://www.foia.cia.gov/docs/DOC_0001474318/DOC_0001474318.pdf


Soooo, hahaha you got "The sorcerer stone", hahhaha :))) Thanks!


Serious, very strange pattern of missile path, going up, then after "Blackbird", and the spinning one... MAybe Vietnamese disabled the selfdestruction mechanizm, and try to use them in their passive flight...


Edited by piston79 (01/06/12 03:36 PM)

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#3488994 - 01/06/12 02:26 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: max2012]
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Originally Posted By: max2012

Question?

Dvina can intercept target of 100 meters, or 300 meters is the limit, it is difficult?

duckhunter


Say 500 hundred...

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#3488995 - 01/06/12 02:28 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: max2012]
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Originally Posted By: max2012

The question yet?

In the December 26 bombing mission.

How to understand what the purpose to intercept them there is a lot on the screen.

There are so many!

dizzy


That's the whole idea!!! To feel the difficulties of war against USAF!!!

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#3489024 - 01/06/12 03:14 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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That is 100 meters can not be intercepted.

Yes, but many aircraft Dvina can not, can only one purpose, to be like?

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#3489066 - 01/06/12 04:35 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Click to reveal..
13:45 19th of December, 1972.
SR-71 bomb damage assessment flight number one.

SA-75M Dvina


25:54, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 80km
Target azimuth: 169°
Target elevation: 19°
Target altitude: 26,5km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


26:04, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 80km
Target azimuth: 167°
Target elevation: 21°
Target altitude: 29,6km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


26:11, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 80km
Target azimuth: 165°
Target elevation: 23°
Target altitude: 32,1km
SNR mode: 110km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


26:47, Missile exploded on Channel-2
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 84m)

26:59, Missile exploded on Channel-1
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 47m)

27:14, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 26km
Target azimuth: 126°
Target elevation: 58°
Target altitude: 22,5km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


Total, SNR On Air Time: 4min 43sec


Who is your Daddy now? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH!!!!! ready



In fact I did a HUGE mistake... Forgot to switch on "BR" mode, so made an "elektronik shot", so, the real distance must be calculated (should be about 73 km, but please check!). So, where is my medal???? winner


Edited by piston79 (01/06/12 05:01 PM)

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#3489088 - 01/06/12 05:26 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Nice shot there, piston! thumbsup

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#3489110 - 01/06/12 05:57 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Hpasp, what is "low PRF" / "high PRF" in CIA reports used to describe FAN SONG activity? 120/60 km modes?

Piston, so was it real kill or not? Did all the missiles fly in KS mode?


Edited by vintorez (01/06/12 05:59 PM)

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#3489115 - 01/06/12 06:07 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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Weasel fur, anyone?
(Dvina: 4x F-105, 3x F-4, avoided 3 Shrikes)
SNR on air for 9 minutes - I wonder, would I have survived?

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SA-75M Dvina

27:33, B-52D Snow-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
27:33, B-52D Slate-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
27:33, B-52D Rust-01 bombed SAM Site VN-549.
27:33, B-52D Maroon-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
27:33, B-52D Amber-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
27:33, B-52D Black-01 bombed Kinh No Complex.
27:33, B-52D Ruby-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
27:33, B-52D Rainbow-01 bombed Kinh No Complex.
27:33, B-52D Pink-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
27:33, B-52D White-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
27:33, B-52D Ivory-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
27:39, B-52D Snow-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
27:39, B-52D Slate-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
27:39, B-52D Rust-02 bombed SAM Site VN-549.
27:39, B-52D Maroon-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
27:39, B-52D Amber-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
27:39, B-52D Black-02 bombed Kinh No Complex.
27:39, B-52D Ruby-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
27:39, B-52D Rainbow-02 bombed Kinh No Complex.
27:39, B-52D Pink-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
27:39, B-52D White-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
27:39, B-52D Ivory-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
28:06, B-52D Snow-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
28:06, B-52D Slate-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
28:06, B-52D Maroon-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
28:06, B-52D Amber-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
28:06, B-52D Black-03 bombed Kinh No Complex.
28:06, B-52D Ruby-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
28:06, B-52D Rainbow-03 bombed Kinh No Complex.
28:06, B-52D Pink-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
28:06, B-52D White-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
28:06, B-52D Ivory-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
28:23, B-52D Cream-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.

28:33, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 12km
Target azimuth: 233°
Target elevation: 18°
Target altitude: 3,9km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)

28:33, B-52D Cream-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.

28:39, F-105 Wild Weasel number 1 of pair-4 launched AGM-45 Shrike missile.

28:53, B-52D Cream-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.

28:57, Missile exploded on Channel-1
F-105 Wild Weasel number 1 of pair-4 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 27m)
29:35, B-52D Indigo-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
29:36, B-52D Indigo-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.

29:39, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 17km
Target azimuth: 350°
Target elevation: 16°
Target altitude: 4,9km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)

29:39, B-52D Yellow-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
29:40, B-52D Indigo-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
29:41, B-52D Yellow-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
29:45, B-52D Yellow-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
29:54, B-52D Lilac-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
29:56, B-52D Lilac-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
29:56, B-52D Silver-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.

29:57, Missile exploded on Channel-2
F-4 number 2 of pair-1 blocking Noi Bai airfield killed by SAM. (miss distance: 52m)
29:57, B-52D Silver-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
29:58, B-52D Silver-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
30:08, B-52D Lilac-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.

30:17, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 17km
Target azimuth: 358°
Target elevation: 17°
Target altitude: 5,3km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


30:34, Missile exploded on Channel-3
F-4 number 1 of pair-1 blocking Noi Bai airfield killed by SAM. (miss distance: 52m)

31:25, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 18km
Target azimuth: 200°
Target elevation: 12°
Target altitude: 3,9km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)

31:43, B-52D Brown-01 bombed Kinh No Complex.
31:44, B-52D Brown-02 bombed Kinh No Complex.
31:48, B-52D Brown-03 bombed Kinh No Complex.
31:56, B-52D Ebony-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.

31:56, Missile exploded on Channel-1
F-105 Wild Weasel number 2 of pair-4 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 38m)
31:59, B-52D Ebony-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
32:02, B-52D Ebony-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
32:13, B-52D Red-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
32:15, B-52D Red-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
32:19, B-52D Red-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
33:23, B-52D Pinto-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
33:27, B-52D Pinto-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.

33:34, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 13km
Target azimuth: 323°
Target elevation: 16°
Target altitude: 3,9km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


33:39, F-105 Wild Weasel number 1 of pair-3 launched AGM-45 Shrike missile.

33:40, B-52D Pinto-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.

34:00, Missile exploded on Channel-3
F-105 Wild Weasel number 1 of pair-3 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 27m)
34:31, B-52D Ash-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
34:32, B-52D Ash-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
34:36, B-52D Ash-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
34:56, B-52D Smoke-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
34:57, B-52D Smoke-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
35:10, B-52D Gold-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
35:10, B-52D Smoke-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
35:17, B-52D Gold-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
35:27, B-52D Gold-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
35:50, B-52D Cobalt-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
36:05, B-52D Cobalt-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
36:09, B-52D Cobalt-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.

39:36, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 17km
Target azimuth: 301°
Target elevation: 12°
Target altitude: 3,9km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


40:07, Missile exploded on Channel-2
F-105 Wild Weasel number 2 of pair-3 hit by SAM. (miss distance: 151m)

40:48, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 15km
Target azimuth: 315°
Target elevation: 16°
Target altitude: 4,4km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


41:05, Missile exploded on Channel-1
F-105 Wild Weasel number 2 of pair-3 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 30m)

44:31, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 25km
Target azimuth: 171°
Target elevation: 9°
Target altitude: 3,9km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


44:44, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 24km
Target azimuth: 171°
Target elevation: 9°
Target altitude: 3,9km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)


47:43, F-105 Wild Weasel number 2 of pair-1 launched AGM-45 Shrike missile.


48:30, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 9km
Target azimuth: 105°
Target elevation: 10°
Target altitude: 1,8km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


48:48, Missile exploded on Channel-3
F-4 number 2 of pair-1 blocking Zea Lam airfield killed by SAM. (miss distance: 27m)

49:56, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 8km
Target azimuth: 238°
Target elevation: 12°
Target altitude: 1,8km
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


50:15, V-750VKU 11DKU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 11km
Target azimuth: 242°
Target elevation: 4°
Target altitude: 915m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: K (Half Lead Elevated By Constans)


50:29, Missile exploded on Channel-2

Total, SNR On Air Time: 9min 9sec


Edited by vintorez (01/06/12 06:09 PM)

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#3489132 - 01/06/12 06:37 PM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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My question!

As you can knock them all with noise at low altitudes.

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