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#3554563 - 04/11/12 03:09 PM Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again
jatsi Offline
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Registered: 11/24/07
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Hi

After many many years, the Su-27 Flanker 1.5 Squadron Commander's Edition fly's again.

I managed to get it work so so in Ubuntu 11.10 with sounds smile

The joystick is causing a problems, but I can fly it in 1998 style HOKAS. Yes, the Hands On the Keyboard And Stick biggrin


I so much would like to see a remake of this sim. Just to make it working within windows, supporting the multiple joysticks, sounds & etc.


(edit)
http://fdm4bge.1g.fi/Files/10001/Flanker/f15_formation_landing.wmv


Edited by jatsi (04/11/12 04:13 PM)


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#3555203 - 04/12/12 03:29 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
jatsi Offline
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Hi!

A small update from Ubuntu/Linux noob.

BAD STUFF
Joystick
For some odd reason, the Ubuntu 11.10 is not detecting my CH FightStick(usb) every time. I need to disconnect the stick 1-2 times, untill the Ubuntu detects it.

The throttle axis is not anyhow working properly, and I using a keyboard pageup, pagedown and numpad -/+ keys for the throttle.

The viewhat is not working since, the Ubunto sees it as a axis. Go figure...

So far I could not install the jkeys or qjoypad applications, which can translate the joystick button (or axis)inputs to the key strokes. Working with it...

I need to change the keyboard layout to US to have a access to all key input from my Scandinavian keyboard. Not big deal.

GOOD STUFF
The wine runs Flanker pretty nice and stable.

The .mis(mission) and .trk(playback) files are detected and open correctly.

The FSHELL (scripted campaign engine) seems to working. Not fully tested yet.

The Random Mission Generator aka RMG is working in dosbox and generating the mission files nicely. Not fully tested yet.

TO DO
Well, study the Ubuntu/Linux to be able to use a jkeys or qjoypad.
Find a Flanker Realistic Payload Editor from my file archive and test it in Ubuntu.

smile


Edited by jatsi (04/12/12 03:31 PM)

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#3555767 - 04/13/12 02:23 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
jatsi Offline
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This starts to be a monolog here.

I found this webpage with google:
http://fukumori.org/Fshell/index.html

Thanks to the Mr. Fukumori's site, I found a Pilots-Log-Manager application by Michael "Loophole" Barnes and Flanker-Realistic-Payload-Editor application by David "Zip" Pierron (+ many others).

A first guns-only and BVR sorties done. Pretty much fun.

So far so good smile

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#3555819 - 04/13/12 03:54 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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Originally Posted By: jatsi

This starts to be a monolog here.
I'm not really familiar with the game, but it's cool to hear of success with Linux. thumbsup

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#3555820 - 04/13/12 03:57 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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is there a downloadable version?. Just curious.
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#3555827 - 04/13/12 04:20 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jt_medina]
jatsi Offline
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Originally Posted By: jt_medina
is there a downloadable version?. Just curious.


Yes, there is a download version of the SU-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE .ISO file in the net, but I don't link it to here.

It's unclear if this classic hardcore sim from -97 (arcade game in these days standards) is a freeware or not.

It would be very nice if the Eagle Dynamics, SSI or whoever holds the copy rights these days,would clarify the status.

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#3556209 - 04/14/12 01:06 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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I thought I could buy it at GOG.com but it isn't there. What a shame.
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#3557302 - 04/16/12 03:36 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
jatsi Offline
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Update

The qjoypad problem solved.

I found answer/download link from this page :
http://archive.getdeb.net/getdeb/ubu...mes/q/qjoypad/


What the qjoypad does?
http://qjoypad.sourceforge.net/

The qjoypad allow me to assign a key commands to the controller/s axis & buttons.
So, now I can assign all navigation, weapon system & plane mechanics primary controls to the HOTAS, which is a huge improvement over previous keyboard usage.


My Saitek X35T stand-alone mod. throttle (from 2001) and Logitech MoMo rudder/pedals are acting as a button inputs and the CH FighterStick viewhat works as a four view hat.

Not a big deal, if that second option is a pure keyboard input...


Nice smile




Edited by jatsi (04/16/12 03:38 PM)

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#3558572 - 04/18/12 04:59 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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Blimey! Good to hear form the good old Flanker 1.5 smile

I would love to see a windows 7 friendly re-release. Last time I tried it in DOSBox the joystick was really unstable. Almost impossible to calibrate. Perhaps ED could treat us one day? I still have my 1.5 box proudly displayed on the shelf! This game was truly amazing when it first came out.

By the way. If I remember well thee were 2 mods out there to fly the Su-25 and the MiG-27. They used the Su-27 cockpit, but hey... it was fun. They might still be out there.
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#3558729 - 04/18/12 09:42 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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I also fly flanker 1.5 from time to time, great sim! By the way I fly on Win7 and is very stable, if you have problems with your joystick you may try PPjoy.

Here is the link to the planes add on, you can fly the MiG-23, MiG-29 and Su-25
http://www.mediafire.com/?j257f879y0g560x

English install instructions are on the Su-25 zip.

Enjoy!

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#3558958 - 04/19/12 09:51 AM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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I just got Su 27 Flanker up and going in DOS Box... I must say the interface confuses me! It's more like a military mission planner rather than a PC Game/sim. How can I tell what version I'm running? It came on a CD-ROM in a pack with other old DOS sims.
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#3559196 - 04/19/12 03:20 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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Hi!

Capt Haddock,
The Sue was and still is pretty good sim.

I really think the ED should make a 'Legacy version' for the Win xp/vista/7/Linux.

It would need a support at least for the sound and joystick/s.
Also a faster screen play (fps) and longer viewing in general would be very nice.



I tried the Su27 v1.5 several times in a Win XP home(32bit) pc without success.

I have a three usb controllers:
- CH FighterSitck
- Saitek X35T with stand-alone mod.
- Logitech MoMo pedals (and wheels)

I was trying the CHFS alone with Sue, but the axis inputs were just flickering widly.

I combined above controllers to one virtual joystick(four axis) with PPjoy. The virtual joystick was working fine with newer games but with Sue the axis were just flickering frown


khriztian,
Thank you for your Su25/MIG29 mod link smile
Please, could you kindly tell your system specs? Maybe the Sue is working better in Win 7?


ArgonV,
Yes, the Sue was known back then with it's 'proffessional' menu/gui. No intro or anything, just staright to the business.

Did you check the 'About Flanker' window? It should tell the version.

My first Sue was in a CD with 4 different sims. Sue, Flight Unlimited, some ww2 carrier sim and something I can't remember.
The Sue version was 1.1 or 1.2 DOS version.


Edited by jatsi (04/19/12 03:21 PM)

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#3559248 - 04/19/12 04:44 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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Very cool to see her still in action!

Flanker 1/1.5 is not freeware and is still protected by CP.


Edited by EvilBivol-1 (04/19/12 04:44 PM)
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#3559478 - 04/20/12 12:07 AM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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It looks like my version is v1.1. Any way to update it? My CD-ROM version came in the same kind of pack jatsi.
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#3559605 - 04/20/12 08:46 AM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: khriztian]
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Originally Posted By: khriztian
...if you have problems with your joystick you may try PPjoy.

Here is the link to the planes add on, you can fly the MiG-23, MiG-29 and Su-25
http://www.mediafire.com/?j257f879y0g560x



Awesome! Thanks for the link! Now I'll have to reinstall it this weekend smile

This PPjoy... I looked briefly into it yesterday and it seems to be a real pain to install in Windows 7 (something to do with unsigned drivers). Is there a more up to date version? I've actually been looking to something like this for Di's Hind (another oldie with joystick troubles). Sounds like a really handy tool!
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#3559677 - 04/20/12 10:08 AM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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Hi guys, what about resolution? Are we have only 640x480 to display? Sim window is quite small on monitor.

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#3559750 - 04/20/12 12:25 PM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: jatsi]
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Yeah 640x400 or 480... But I have my monitor/graphics card drivers to full screen the picture with just black bars on the side to keep the aspect ratio the same 5:4 format.
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#3560230 - 04/21/12 07:36 AM Re: Su-27 Flanker 1.5 SCE fly's again [Re: ArgonV]
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I've got a copy of the 1.5 mission disc.

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