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#3551763 - 04/06/12 10:49 AM Re: 24 Feb teaser ***** [Re: HeinKill]
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Top work cheers

couple of points for anyone trying to make these into a campaign:-
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=30017
might be useful?

the missions/briefing files will need to be renamed to something without 'special characters' (umlauts) as they won't work in campaign mode- the campaign engine doesn't seem to be able to read these characters and throws errors cuss2


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#3551796 - 04/06/12 12:00 PM Re: Fri 6 April: ANNOUNCING the completed campaign mission packs for Operation Sealion: now out! [Re: HeinKill]
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WOW! Fantastic job!

Will you make it available also at airwarfare.com in offline campaigns section?

(It is easier to have just one link in a sig. lol)


Edited by Ataros (04/06/12 12:00 PM)

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#3551821 - 04/06/12 12:41 PM Re: Fri 6 April: ANNOUNCING the completed campaign mission packs for Operation Sealion: now out! [Re: HeinKill]
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Yes I sure will. I find it worth posting both here, and on Airwarfare. Of the 3,000 downloads of my mission sets so far, about 2/3rds have come through SimHQ and about 1/3 through Airwarfare.

BTW I have already received a question: "How could Germany have possibly succeeded in the invasion of England, with the RAF contesting the skies, and the Royal Navy controlling the sea lanes?"

This is the eternal question, debated by many more erudite than myself. But in playing through these missions, I discovered how, and the answer is not solely military, it is human/political.

See the 'Germany wins' timeline in full here:

WARNING; Campaign PLOT SPOILERS!!!

Germany victory timeline
http://www.box.com/s/29366504e1c566be6b55
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#3551866 - 04/06/12 01:46 PM Re: Fri 6 April: ANNOUNCING the completed campaign mission packs for Operation Sealion: now out! [Re: HeinKill]
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Hi Heinkill,

Found this post over on Pprune - thought it may be of interest

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That'll be 'sealion' by Richard Cox. Essentially:

In 1974 an exercise was held at the Staff College, Sandhurst using a scenario based on the known plans of each side, plus previously unpublished Admiralty weather records for September 1940.

'Each side (played by British and German officers respectively) was based in a command room, and the actual moves plotted on a scale model of SE England constructed at the School of Infantry.

The panel of umpires included Adolf Galland, Admiral Friedrich Ruge, Air Chief Marshal Sir Christopher Foxley-Norris, Rear Admiral Edward Gueritz, General Heinz Trettner and Major General Glyn Gilbert. The main problems the Germans face are that: a) the Luftwaffe has not yet won air supremacy; b) the possible invasion dates are constrained by the weather and tides (for a high water attack) and c) it has taken until late September to assemble the necessary shipping.

22nd September - morning. The first wave of a planned 330,000 men hit the beaches at dawn. Elements of 9 divisions landed between Folkestone and Rottingdean (near Brighton). In addition 7th FJ Div landed at Lympne to take the airfield. The invasion fleet suffered minor losses from MTBs during the night crossing, but the RN had already lost one CA and three DDs sunk, with one CA and two DDs damaged, whilst sinking three German DDs. Within hours of the landings, which overwhelmed the beach defenders, reserve formations were despatched to Kent. Although there were 25 divisions in the UK, only 17 were fully equipped, and only three were based in Kent, however the defence plan relied on the use of mobile reserves and armoured and mechanised brigades were committed as soon as the main landings were identified. Meanwhile the air battle raged, the Luftwaffe flew 1200 fighter and 800 bomber sorties before 1200 hrs. The RAF even threw in training planes hastily armed with bombs, but the Luftwaffe were already having problems with their short ranged Me 109s despite cramming as many as possible into the Pas de Calais.

22nd - 23rd September. The Germans had still not captured a major port, although they started driving for Folkestone. Shipping unloading on the beaches suffered heavy losses from RAF bombing raids and then further losses at their ports in France. The U-Boats, Luftwaffe and few surface ships had lost contact with the RN, but then a cruiser squadron with supporting DDs entered the Channel narrows and had to run the gauntlet of long range coastal guns, E-Boats and 50 Stukas. Two CAs were sunk and one damaged. However a diversionary German naval sortie from Norway was completely destroyed and other sorties by MTBS and DDs inflicted losses on the shipping milling about in the Channel. German shipping losses on the first day amounted to over 25% of their invasion fleet, especially the barges, which proved desperately unseaworthy.

23rd Sept dawn - 1400 hrs. The RAF had lost 237 planes out 1048 (167 fighters and 70 bombers), and the navy had suffered enough losses such that it was keeping its BBs and CVs back, but large forces of DDs and CAs were massing. Air recon showed a German build up in Cherbourg and forces were diverted to the South West. The German Navy were despondant about their losses, especially as the loss of barges was seriously dislocating domestic industry. The Army and Airforce commanders were jubilant however, and preperations for the transfer of the next echelon continued along with the air transport of 22nd Div, despite Luftwaffe losses of 165 fighters and 168 bombers. Out of only 732 fighters and 724 bombers these were heavy losses. Both sides overestimated losses inflicted by 50%. The 22nd Div airlanded successfully at Lympne, although long range artillery fire directed by a stay-behind commando group interdicted the runways. The first British counterattacks by 42nd Div supported by an armoured brigade halted the German 34th Div in its drive on Hastings. 7th Panzer Div was having difficulty with extensive anti-tank obstacles and assault teams armed with stickybombs etc. Meanwhile an Australian Div had retaken Newhaven (the only German held port), however the New Zealand Div arrived at Folkestone only to be attacked in the rear by 22nd Airlanding Div. The division fell back on Dover having lost 35% casualties.

Sep 23rd 1400 - 1900 hrs. Throughout the day the Luftwaffe put up a maximum effort, with 1500 fighter and 460 bomber sorties, but the RAF persisted in attacks on shipping and airfields. Much of this effort was directed for ground support and air resupply, despite Adm Raeders request for more aircover over the Channel. The Home Fleet had pulled out of air range however, leaving the fight in the hands of 57 DDs and 17 CAs plus MTBs. The Germans could put very little surface strength against this. Waves of DDs and CAs entered the Channel, and although two were sunk by U-Boats, they sank one U-Boat in return and did not stop. The German flotilla at Le Havre put to sea (3 DD, 14 E-Boats) and at dusk intercepted the British, but were wiped out, losing all their DDs and 7 E-Boats. The Germans now had 10 divisions ashore, but in many cases these were incomplete and waiting for their second echelon to arrive that night. The weather was unsuitable for the barges however, and the decision to sail was referred up the chain of command.

23rd Sep 1900 - Sep 24th dawn. The Fuhrer Conference held at 1800 broke out into bitter inter-service rivalry - the Army wanted their second echelon sent, and the navy protesting that the weather was unsuitable, and the latest naval defeat rendered the Channel indefensible without air support. Goring countered this by saying it could only be done by stopping the terror bombing of London, which in turn Hitler vetoed. The fleet was ordered to stand by. The RAF meanwhile had lost 97 more fighters leaving only 440. The airfields of 11 Group were cratered ruins, and once more the threat of collapse, which had receded in early September, was looming. The Luftwaffe had lost another 71 fighters and 142 bombers. Again both sides overestimated losses inflicted, even after allowing for inflated figures. On the ground the Germans made good progress towards Dover and towards Canterbury, however they suffered reverses around Newhaven when the 45th Div and Australians attacked. At 2150 Hitler decided to launch the second wave, but only the short crossing from Calais and Dunkirk. By the time the order reached the ports, the second wave could not possibly arrive before dawn. The 6th and 8th divisions at Newhaven, supplied from Le Havre, would not be reinforced at all.

Sep 24th dawn - Sep 28th. The German fleet set sail, the weather calmed, and U-Boats, E-Boats and fighters covered them. However at daylight 5th destroyer flotilla found the barges still 10 miles off the coast and tore them to shreds. The Luftwaffe in turn committed all its remaining bombers, and the RAF responded with 19 squadrons of fighters. The Germans disabled two CAs and four DDs, but 65% of the barges were sunk. The faster steamers broke away and headed for Folkestone, but the port had been so badly damaged that they could only unload two at a time. The failure on the crossing meant that the German situation became desperate. The divisions had sufficient ammunition for 2 to 7 days more fighting, but without extra men and equipment could not extend the bridgehead. Hitler ordered the deployment on reserve units to Poland and the Germans began preparations for an evacuation as further British attacks hemmed them in tighter. Fast steamers and car ferries were assembled for evacuation via Rye and Folkestone. Of 90,000 troops who landed on 22nd september, only 15,400 returned to France, the rest were killed or captured.'

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#3551892 - 04/06/12 02:17 PM Re: Fri 6 April: ANNOUNCING the completed campaign mission packs for Operation Sealion: now out! [Re: HeinKill]
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Thanks a lot HeinKill!

All I need now is some time to fly... If anyone finds some unused sparetime lying around, collecting dust, send it to me please sigh

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#3552203 - 04/07/12 04:01 AM Re: Fri 6 April: ANNOUNCING the completed campaign mission packs for Operation Sealion: now out! [Re: Vitesse]
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Originally Posted By: Vitesse
Hi Heinkill,

Found this post over on Pprune - thought it may be of interest


Thx V! Yes that was the source I used to create the basic storyline for the series. As you can see though it is rather vague between the 24th and 28th so I had to get the Cox book to fill in the blanks.

I then had to make a choice. In the Sandhurst exercise the 9th Army landed at Rye and the 16th at Folkestone. The 9th didn't hit any of its objectives, but to include Rye in the battlefield would have greatly increased the area of the front and made it harder to both model, and script. I wanted a narrow front to condense the action so the player would not find it hard to get into the action. It also made it easier to model the ground war. So there I deviated from the Sandhurst script a little and kept all the focus on the 16th Army landings, and a battlefield stretching just from Folkestone to Ramsgate along the coast, and north to Canterbury inland.

The other area I deviated was to consider both the military environment, and the political. Sandhurst unrealistically just ran a military wargame with no consideration for the socio-political impact that a German landing would have, especially given that within the War Cabinet of the time you had a couple of British bulldogs (Churchill, Atlee), but on the other hand you had two members with less convincing track records, in Chamberlain and Halifax. Chamberlain was the appeaser who had acquiesced to German takeovers in Austria and the Sudetenland, while Halifax had proposed negotiation with Axis powers during the Battle of France, to let them have France if they left British interests alone.

There was also the wildcard of the former King Edward, arguably also sympathetic to Germany, but I'll say no more on that as it is the subject of a 'special' mission in the mission pack wink

So I asked myself as I was moving toward the last days of the Sandhurst timeline:

- what political impact would the landings have had? would the war cabinet have stayed united, or divided?
- what social impact would it have had with refugees fleeing Kent and streaming into London? And what pressure would this have added to the political environment?
- the British public had enormous confidence in Churchill following the Battle of Britain, but could a serious military miscalculation by him, resulting the deaths of tens of thousands of British civilians shake that confidence?
- what would happen if a sizable German force had penetrated as far inland within the first week, as Allied forces did at Normandy? This would put them within 30-60 miles of London. Even if they ran out of supplies and dug in, it could take weeks to dislodge them. The panic in London could have been politically explosive.

Anyway I added these thoughts to the scenario building and came up with alternate endings to the campaign, one which more or less follows the Sandhurst outcome, and one which...doesn't.

H

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#3552206 - 04/07/12 04:25 AM Re: Fri 6 April: ANNOUNCING the completed campaign mission packs for Operation Sealion: now out! [Re: HeinKill]
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I would respecftully submit that British would not have suffered any serious political consequences from an invasion unless/until things started going really bad (i.e. Germans no kidding marching through London). As long as the landing was more or less contained in SE England, I think it would have acted as a catalyst for greater British effort, not less.

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#3552249 - 04/07/12 07:31 AM Re: Fri 6 April: ANNOUNCING the completed campaign mission packs for Operation Sealion: now out! [Re: Nimits]
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Originally Posted By: Nimits
I would respecftully submit that British would not have suffered any serious political consequences from an invasion unless/until things started going really bad (i.e. Germans no kidding marching through London). As long as the landing was more or less contained in SE England, I think it would have acted as a catalyst for greater British effort, not less.


I agree it would probably have to have been as drastic as that - though if Canterbury fell, just 60 miles from London...

I was put in mind of the Japanese attacks on Darwin in Australia, before the battles of Midway and Coral Sea put paid to fears of an invasion. We Australians like to think of ourselves as do or die types, but after the second bombing of Darwin...

"RAAF wing commander Sturt Griffith summoned his senior administrative officer, Squadron Leader Swan, and gave a verbal order that all airmen were to move half a mile down the main road and then half a mile inland. At this vague rendezvous point ... arrangements would be made to feed them. The order led to utter chaos. In being passed by word of mouth from one section to another, sometimes with officers present and sometimes not, it became garbled to the extent it was unrecognisable against the original. In its ultimate form it was interpreted, especially by those desiring such an interpretation, of an impending order for immediate and general evacuation of the area. Highly exaggerated rumours of an impending Japanese invasion had already reached the base from the town and spread quickly among those wanting to believe them. In the absence of restraint, men gathered their belongings" and abandoned their stations."

More than half the city of Darwin fled south.

I do still wonder whether Brits might have been similarly panicked by the news of Panzers in Canterbury...
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#3553050 - 04/08/12 11:29 PM Re: Fri 6 April: ANNOUNCING the completed campaign mission packs for Operation Sealion: now out! [Re: HeinKill]
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I've managed some time to enjoy Spitfire flights in Missions 18 and 19 since the full set was released..fantastic work again HeinKill!

Nice to see lots of positive comments across the other forums for your work as well mate, well done.

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#3553441 - 04/09/12 05:31 PM Re: Fri 6 April: ANNOUNCING the completed campaign mission packs for Operation Sealion: now out! [Re: HeinKill]
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Thanks...

And a preview of my next project, currently in research...

RHUBARBS and CIRCUSES

The codename Circus was given to operations of British Royal Air Force (RAF) during 1941 where bombers, heavily escorted by fighters, were sent over continental Europe to bring enemy fighters into combat. These were usually formations of 20 to 30 bombers escorted by several squadrons of escort fighters in the belief that formations of this size could not be ignored by the German Luftwaffe.

There were other codenames for similar missions.

Ramrod - Similar to Circus, but with intention of destroying a target.
Ranger - Large-formation intrusion over enemy territory with aim of wearing down enemy fighter force.
Roadstead - Low-level attack on coastal shipping.
Rhubarb - Small-scale freelance fighter sorties against ground targets of opportunity

Intended originally to keep pressure on Germany after the Battle of Britain, and later to draw important resources away from the Eastern front, the operations were incredibly costly to the RAF, which lost fighters and bombers at a rate of 2-4 for every German aircraft destroyed.

I'm going to put together a set of historically accurate missions based on records of actual Circus, Ramrod, Rhubarb and Roadstead missions. It will feature the squadrons of RAF 11 Group, including Baders famous 'Tangmere Wing' which bore the brunt of the RAF attack, and JG26 and JG2 which were the primary Luftwaffe units engaged.

The missions will all take place off the coast of, or over the CoD France map, so I'll be populating a lot of French airfields, targets and landmarks for this one.

Below are a couple of examples of typical 'Circus' operations, from both sides:

RAF - Mission: Circus 81

Date: 19th August 1941

Unit: No. 403 Squadron R.C.A.F.

Type: Supermarine Spitfire IIb(The Bristol Air Raid Warden - name of aircraft)

Serial. R7260

Code: R

Location: In sea off Dover, England

Pilot: Pilot Officer N. R. D. Dick Picked up safe.

REASON FOR LOSS:

Extract from form F. Pilots personal Combat Report.

I was yellow 4, 403 (Canadian) Squadron, on Circus 81. When at 26,000 ft. North of St. Omer I sighted 15/20 e/a (enemy aircraft) heading N/W below at 15,000 ft. and Squadron Commander ordered us to attack. Whilst diving I saw an Me.109F attacking Yellow 3 from behind and fired a 2-second burst at 400 yards range, but missed and e/a took evasive action by half rolling to port. I was flying then at 24,000 ft. in a northern direction and made a sharp right hand climbing turn and pulled up. I then saw 3 Me. 109Fís in line abreast above flying east at 26,000 ft. I fired a 7-second burst from 250 yards range at centre one and black thick smoke poured from its belly.

I saw tracers strike cockpit and fuselage, a further 2-second burst was then given at 75 yards range and e/a blew up and spun down vertically in flames.

The other two e/a then dived away towards the south. I was then alone and could see none of our aircraft and was about to turn for home when I sighted 6 Me. 109's in sun 2,000 ft. above me at 24,000 ft. flying N/W in loose formation. I made for cloud cover and when making coast near Gravelines I saw a Spitfire at 1,000 ft. above me at approx: 18,000 ft. being attacked from rear quarter starboard side by one Me.109F.

I pulled my nose up and fired a 4-second burst into his belly at 150 yds. range. Shortly after, black smoke and flames came from his belly and he was last seen diving to starboard with flames coming from his belly. I then saw another e/a below at 15,000 ft. and used up the rest of my ammunition with a 2-second burst at 350 yards range, but did not see result, although I think I hit his tail.

During this time I was attacked on port and starboard side by 2 e/a. My starboard wing tip was struck by 3-cannon shell and broke off. The port wing was also hit by cannon. On making a left hand turn I found a cannon shell had struck base of control column, rendering my right aileron useless and being unable to straighten out I used heavy right rudder to pull her up

PO N.R.D. Dick No.403 Sqdn

Pilot Officer Dick in the cockpit of his Spitfire

When at, 6,000 ft, I see-sawed for cloud cover and was again attacked from astern the radiator panel was hit and also my reflector sight and the cockpit filled with white smoke. I yanked emergency cockpit cover, which blew off. On my port side I saw another Me.l09F l,000 yards away about to attack. I went down in a slow left hand dive and lost 3,000 ft. As I recovered from dive, I saw e/a turn for France. I levelled out and found engine failing, so I used hand pump and injected fuel to keep going. When 2,500 ft. over Channel I found myself losing control and on sighting Cliffs of Dover I realized I could not make land, and jettisoned my helmet.

From 2500 - 2000 ft. I called Mayday on button D and at 1800 ft, baled out clear from port side of a/c [aircraft]. My parachute opened easily.

Whilst floating down I inflated my Mae West. on the way down I lost one flying boot and my revolver. As my feet touched the water, I tried to release parachute, but I missed hitting the release.I was dragged 3/4 feet below the surface and then managed to release myself.

I pulled the Dinghy towards me and partially inflated it by giving it one full turn, then being exhausted I hung on to dinghy and when on top of a high wave I saw 6/7 Spitfires orbitting above me and also Rescue Boat approaching, which reached me about 10 minutes later.

(Sgd) N.R.D. Dick P/O
"B" Flight,
403 Can. Sqn.
From: "Fighter Command Losses" - Norman Franks.

LUFTWAFFE

During July 1941, the RAF reported that they lost 75 bombers and 120 fighters in daylight missions over the "Channel". According to German reports, JG 2 and JG 26 lost 77 fighters on the "Channel front" during the period 22 June - 31 October 1941.

July 2nd, 1941. This day JG 26 "Schlageter" spotted probably Polish fighters from 308th "City of Krakow" Squadron under command of Cpt. Marian Pisarek (details from Polish side on Pisarek's page!). Polish pilots claimed 5 destroyed "Messers'", but Germans from JG 26 lost at least 2 Bf 109s. One of them, piloted by Oberleutnant Martin Rysavy (8 kills) of 2./JG 26, was reportedly shot down by "friendly Flak". Rysavy was killed. But probably 308th Squadron can add him to score board.

Adolf Galland , The JG26 Geschwaderkommodore, took off, despite wounds he had received when he was shot down on 21 June, and despite the fact that he had received orders that forbade him to take part in air combat since he was decorated with the Swords to the Knight´s Cross with Oak Leaves. He led the whole JG 26 in an attack against the formation of Blenheims and escort fighters - probably of 308th Squadron... Galland shot down one "Blenheim" (it was not confirmed, because he didn´t see the crash). As he was involved in a whirling dogfight with one "Spitfire", another "Spitfire" attacked his Bf 109 from behind.

The cockpit hub of Galland´s plane was hit by a 20 mm shell. But the armor plate which Galland´s mechanic Unteroffizier Meyer coincidentally had mounted on the Kommodore´s aircraft that same morning, saved Galland´s life. Adolf Galland managed to escape and landed at base, where he was hospitalized again - for the second time in twelve days. As a reward, he paid Uffz. Meyer 100 Mark.

"So viel war mein Kopf wert (so much was my head worth)...", Galland ironically commented later.

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