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#3549963 - 04/03/12 03:51 PM Re: Most difficult plane for you to fly? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Gotha. If I manage to get the damned thing airborne it frequently does not stay that way. The difference between max speed when loaded and stall is not all that much. Once control is lost it's game over. Forget landing it.


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#3550310 - 04/04/12 09:03 AM Re: Most difficult plane for you to fly? [Re: fafnir_6]
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Originally Posted By: fafnir_6
Scout-wise? You'll find flying the Dr.I much easier if you have rudder pedals (or a twisty stick at the very least). Check one of Requiem's masterpieces for instruction on turning rotaries: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gniHY-IGxJ4

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Thanks for this video link. I'll check it out today. I don't have rudder pedals but I do have a twist rudder on my stick.
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#3550311 - 04/04/12 09:06 AM Re: Most difficult plane for you to fly? [Re: WWBrian]
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Originally Posted By: WWBrian
I would be very curious to see if it is dependant on weather you were left or right-handed or something equally silly.

...I also wonder if there are folks who feel proficient in either, and if they are ambidexterous.


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#3550316 - 04/04/12 09:13 AM Re: Most difficult plane for you to fly? [Re: Catfish]
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Originally Posted By: Catfish

Most difficult i find the SPAD XIII, it cannot turn, its rudder make it lose energy, you cannot SEE anything from its cockpit. The only chance is to spot an unaware foe and dive on it, shooting - and then dive-fly away, fast. I find this "thing" the most idiotic construction, apart maybe for flying air races.

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I know the term "boom and zoom" is rather silly to apply to any WWI aircraft but that's the way I fly the Spad XIII. It's definitely not a turn fighter and if you are slow and low in the Spad XIII, that usually means death.
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#3550367 - 04/04/12 10:37 AM Re: Most difficult plane for you to fly? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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The SPAD really did use B&Z tactics, they just didn't call it that. Somewhere I saw a WWI "how to fight in a SPAD" manual - it was really just a page or two of diagrams - and it put heavy emphasis on vertical maneuvers.

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#3550677 - 04/04/12 05:18 PM Re: Most difficult plane for you to fly? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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B&Z is a relative term. It just means using speed over agility. You can B&Z with any plane, but obviously it will be less successful in say a Dr.I than an SE5a! For each conflict from WWI to Vietnam, the planes that were fastest and less agile were natural B&Z'ers vs the slower more agile planes of the time. Post-Vietnam that became less important, with the Syrian slaughter over Bekaa 30 years back probably being the last time anyone tried it.



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#3550832 - 04/04/12 08:55 PM Re: Most difficult plane for you to fly? [Re: Catfish]
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Originally Posted By: Catfish
In Rof, of course - reality sure was a bit different.

For fighting ?

Most difficult i find the SPAD XIII, it cannot turn, its rudder make it lose energy, you cannot SEE anything from its cockpit. The only chance is to spot an unaware foe and dive on it, shooting - and then dive-fly away, fast. I find this "thing" the most idiotic construction, apart maybe for flying air races.

Greetings,
Catfish



SPAD13 is a fantastic plane that is also very forgiving and does not have as much uncontrollable osculations caused by rudder input as SPAD7.
Dogfighting all Alabtroses, DVII (not "F"), Pfalzes is a dodle. Not jump in and run away, but sustained dogfighting - when you understand that SPAD not only has great top speed, but also has climbing rate that is up to 40% better than any of its competitors above. And just cut their trajectory in climbing turns - Albatroses will not stand a chance. Now, if Dr1 or DVIIF appear - now it is a boom and run away time:)

DR1, N17 and Camel are all very hard and much harder to learn than SPAD.

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#3551420 - 04/05/12 05:19 PM Re: Most difficult plane for you to fly? [Re: Catfish]
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Originally Posted By: Catfish
I find the D.H.2 not so difficult, when it's 1:1 against an E.III you have a good chance, just never use the rudder.

Any aircraft is easy if you only choose the softest matchups. The real test of the DH2 is against another human in an Albatros D.II.

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#3552007 - 04/06/12 05:23 PM Re: Most difficult plane for you to fly? [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Hardest aircraft overall: Gotha at full load. Keeping the darn thing airborne without autopilot is a lesson in frustration...it just refuses to fly by the rules. cuss
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#3565864 - 05/01/12 11:06 PM Re: Most difficult plane for you to fly? [Re: navair2]
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