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#3549623 - 04/03/12 02:18 AM MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601
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MAG-12 had some elements of VMA-211, 225 and 311 just arrive at Chu Lai that morning. Some aircraft had yet to receive complete markings.
A number of the pilots and their A-4's had yet to see combat. Marine Hueys were on watchdog.

Barely a few hours on the ground, and a report that VMF-235 was engaged only six miles to the NW of the new base, with a large Viet Cong contingent.

VMA-225, refueled and armed, was dispatched to the target area. Welcome to Vietnam.











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#3551442 - 04/05/12 05:57 PM Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601 [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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Units had begun rotating to Japan. From Oct-Dec 65, VMA-121,223 and 224 arrived with an average of 20 Skyhawks each.



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#3551590 - 04/06/12 12:13 AM Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601 [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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1967 brought VMA(aw)533 and their Intruder to Chu Lai.



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#3551596 - 04/06/12 12:23 AM Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601 [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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I appreciate the work that goes into this game and I did buy the orginal YAP2 plus some missions.
But I reckon the graphics engine is just starting to look so tired.
Just wish we could have the same game, but say with the up to date graphics of say DCS or Rise of Flight.
Like I say - just dreaming.

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#3551904 - 04/06/12 02:29 PM Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601 [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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Point well taken. As a partial excuse, 8 posted pics that show off the engine in its worst light...gray. When under an overcast, the details just evaporate. The engine IS tired compared to modern First Person Shooter games. I think it is still viable within the confines of a mission for a while longer.
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#3552111 - 04/06/12 08:43 PM Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601 [Re: zerocinco]
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Originally Posted By: zerocinco
Point well taken. As a partial excuse, 8 posted pics that show off the engine in its worst light...gray. When under an overcast, the details just evaporate. The engine IS tired compared to modern First Person Shooter games. I think it is still viable within the confines of a mission for a while longer.


With great respect, I disagree. I'm not talking about first person shooters like BF3, I'm just talking about a modern sim standard.

As I say - I love your work and love the artistry of your missions, I just find the graphics of the Third Wire engine rather old and ugly after DCS and Rise of Flight. The flight models are also rather clunky.

I even think the new graphics for Strike Fighters North Atlantic look old.

I seriously reckon you guys should make inquries about the Jet Thunder engine. It sounds like it's near launch after some major hiccups and all the noises being made is that it will be open for modding. They'd be wanting a cash injection right about now I'd think. And they've even got an A4, so there's Vietnam sorted!

As I say. No offence. I would just love to see the passion you guys have for this theatre given full justice in a modern sim engine.

Was thinking about re-installing YAP2. Will it run on Windows 7?


Edited by Bumfluff (04/06/12 08:44 PM)

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#3552594 - 04/08/12 12:26 AM Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601 [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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We've talked to IL-2, Jet Thunder, Northrup Grumman, open source, etc...for years. There are no viable options for such a narrow niche game.
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#3552814 - 04/08/12 02:19 PM Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601 [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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The only thing that stands out as looking bad is the apron texture. The uv tile scaling looks way off, you could lose a wheel down one of those holes! The rest of it looks good to me.

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#3552873 - 04/08/12 04:15 PM Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601 [Re: 8 L.E.I.N.]
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Terrain tiles are a bit low res thats all - the WOV engine is actually DX9 - the same as DCS A-10C and Falcon BMS.
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#3552976 - 04/08/12 07:29 PM Re: MAG-12 Chu Lai 650601 [Re: MigBuster]
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I agree it's the ground irks me the most. it looks terrible.

But the clouds are also shocking. And the flak/tracer in YAP2 is terrible.

Such a shame when the aircraft as so lovingly modelled.

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