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#3563168 - 04/26/12 03:47 PM Re: A10 Late night... ***** [Re: eno75]
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Well another strange occurrence - got home for lunch, Nuke Plant was up for ~13 hours and Namaste was in it - he was OK with a reload and asked for Road Kill. I restarted the server but got a "You must be logged in to connect" message but I'd not exited. That's what was strange - never saw that message before.

I tried loading the server again and this time the mission started so I exited and started up my own DCS Client and could not find the server anywhere. So I logged back into the server computer and it had the "DCS Stopped Working" message on the desktop. So I started up DCS Multiplayer and served up Road Kill and it looks good now.

It's prolly a good idea to Quit the server mode before loading up a new mission. Quit serving, stay in DCS Multiplayer and then start the server again and load and go... vs. staying in server mode and loading a mission. Geez, that reminds me that an auto-reload of a different mission usually crashes it, which is what I just tried to do manually.


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#3563208 - 04/26/12 05:44 PM Re: A10 Late night... [Re: eno75]
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Namaste was doing pretty well last night, we were on a SEAD tear before the mission reset.. Grumble Grumble (I'll never tire of that pun on these forums).

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#3565440 - 05/01/12 07:24 AM Re: A10 Late night... [Re: eno75]
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Originally Posted By: eno75
I'm not sure exactly what that entails but judging by the 15000 or so views on this thread I'm sure someone with the necessary know-how will be able to chime in!

You're a gamer, I see that... but are you a simmer? We going to see you out on the Firehouse server anytime soon?


Hey!
To everyone - I am so hugely sorry to not have got back here to talk! I don't know why but even though I had subscribed to the thread, I had got zero notifications of any new messages so I was totally unaware there were further discussions directed towards me!! Answering now smile

@Eno: I am a simmer at heart, yes - I love all genres of games, but recently I have been too busy for big games so tend to just fill a bit of downtime with more casual games on the iPad currently. My first love was flight sims and racing sims. I love LockOn but honestly find it too complex for me now - don't have time to learn all the systems for one plane, let alone several smile

Once I get some more time though I would love to dust off the joystick and join you guys!!
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#3565441 - 05/01/12 07:26 AM Re: A10 Late night... [Re: Wrecking Crew]
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Not sure what you mean? WiFi device as in 'access point'? Does your router not have WiFi built in? If it does it should be fine. If you have not used it before I can help you get it activated and password protected. Let me know if I can help more! smile

Originally Posted By: Wrecking Crew
Thanks, GamePlan, lots of good info there. Is there a WiFi device that you recommend to put into the local computer to talk to the phone/pad? I guess my WiFi is coming from my DSL Internet Router w/ Wireless...


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GG, I did not realize that the Briefing was so handy. That tip will help me layout the briefings with the good stuff at the top, like base freqs and active runways.


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Frappin Fulda Gap is a killer, but it works the TAD and EXP1 & EXP2 pilot

I have many coordinates written down, like:
Khashuri Tanks Near Bridge
41 59 27 N
043 36 21 E
2349 EL
TNKS.KHA

Tanks East Of Khashuri
41 59 45 N
043 38 18 E
2301 EL
TNKS.EST


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#3565447 - 05/01/12 07:51 AM Re: A10 Late night... [Re: EinsteinEP]
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Originally Posted By: EinsteinEP
Welcome to the forums, Mark! Very very very glad to see you here!

Originally Posted By: GamePlan
I see that my biggest hurdle is getting players to change the way they play to really integrate the benefits into their game!
I hear that! Folks who like to play tactically LOVE to play tactically while others just LOVE to play. I strongly believe that each person should enjoy their game the way they want to enjoy it, but it does get frustrating when folks don't like the same level of coordination as you. I was a big fan of Advanced Tactical Center for Battlefield 2 back in the day, which is similar to your app, but none of the folks I played with regularly even wanted to try it. Coordinating a battle plan for just one person to execute just isn't as exciting.

I sincerely wish you and your app all the best. If there is ever a desktop variant, I'm sure I will pounce on it.

Thanks for keeping it tactical!

EP


smile Thanks EinsteinEP!
I like your understated statement (bit in bold) hehe.
Desktop version update: Steam won't take it but actually I think that is a blessing in disguise because you wouldn't be able to run it at the same time as any Steam games unless you had a separate account! So we're looking at our own serial key generator stuff (never done this before so I'm just trying to find the best partner/solution). In discussion with several companies that do it, so it's going to happen. Currently we are working on v1.1 which is in final testing. We've added a lot of great features and fixed a few little niggles.

I want to get 1.1 out and feedback before making the desktop one, so it will be a little while but I want to get it right and a solid base before I go to other platforms, just to make it less likely to need to do an update straight away. because on PC you won't get notifications/push updates like you do on iOS/Droid, unless we code that ourselves frown )

Thanks for your interest though and I hope it won't be TOO long before you can join in heheh smile
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#3565450 - 05/01/12 07:55 AM Re: A10 Late night... [Re: eno75]
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Originally Posted By: eno75
.99 right now boys. If the developer is in here mingling he means business. Jump on and check it out!


Yea, I want to make this thing work! I have been working on it for over a year, with 10 months solid coding, and I have loads of ideas I'd love to put into it, but at the end of the day just had to release SOMETHING that was good enough as a starting point, other wise I would never release it and I still wasn't sure if people would want it.

I have put it on 80% discounted sale for a little while to give people chance to try it with less risk, and I would love if people could write a review in the app store, as I think that is what really need to give my app visibility in the store, and people some confidence when they find it.

We are attending Insomnia 143 in Telford this weekend (4th to 7th May) if anyone wants to come and try it out for real! smile
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#3565452 - 05/01/12 08:00 AM Re: A10 Late night... [Re: eno75]
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Originally Posted By: eno75
Looking at gameplan the only thing I'm somewhat worried about is the map image file- if it's just taking an image of the map and not the map itself I'm wondering about how we can make it work to accommodate the much broader areas while still maintaining a necessary amount of detail in the map. What we might need to do is not a dcs map download Per se as much as mission area map snapshots- Which focus on mission areas. My assumption is that I can screenshot the map area in the mission editor, convert it to jpg and then upload it.

I'm dabbling with stuff around the house today so if I get a chance I'll do one. WC I'm going to take for granted you're okay with me doing that with one of your missions? I think Roadkill is a good first one because it's a smaller area and has baddies coming from all angles.

Edit: Okay- well that's not going to work. When I try to screen capture it hits my desktop and not the mission builder or in the program. On to plan B:



It is using the full image - the software will resize it up or down to 2048x2048 maximum internally before it actually shows/adds to your "custom maps" list, but it is genuinely a 2048px image in it's longest direction. This is the current limit but we are looking at ways of implementing a custom Google maps type thing, with infinite zoom (tiles that are cached and it just loads the 4 in view) but this is a BIG change and will need a LOT of testing, so its a medium term thing really.

These are memory limitations of the iPad1, iPad2, iPhone 3GS and much of the unknown Android gear it will run on (Kindle Fire for example). iPad 3 can handle 4096x4096 but I don't want to limit it to iPad3 of course smile


Edited by GamePlan (05/01/12 08:00 AM)
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#3565456 - 05/01/12 08:15 AM Re: A10 Late night... [Re: eno75]
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Hey Eno,
Great to hear!! Thanks for your time and input - it's really nice to have this feedback so thank you and keep it coming.

Icons: For the 1.1 update I've added 44 more icons - all the standard NATO ones. 22 friendly and their equivalent hostile. Here is a sneak peek: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7498980/Help-Screen-NATO.png
If anyone thinks I should add any more it is probably not too late, but I don;t want too many as the list will be unwieldy!!

Touch to delete: We added a 'clear all' button (with confirm popup), but you know you can also use the UNDO? It is unlimited so just keep tapping the same spot really fast. Also another new feature we added a slider to the delay before you pick up an existing icon, so if you want you can set to ZERO and then you can flick like you describe. And we tidied up the behaviour of picking up icons so it's less likely to place another on top when you actually wanted to pick one up!

Map size I touched on above... but yeah I see it's a problem for huge maps where you still need great detail when you zoom in. We will find a solution smile
I guess you could connect with a spare device, and use the tools to place the static detail you need using GP tools (like text bubbles for town names, locations etc - shapes for town centres etc), then everyone can hide that layer until they zoom in and need the close detail for that sector? This will become more viable in 1.2 where we will have a 'save layout' feature.

When you zoom out, the icons don't get bigger as such. They stay the same actual size, so proportionally to the background, they do get bigger but the centre point is in the correct place.

The upload does load the whole file, not just what you see on device. (this is assuming your way of getting it onto the device does not scale it in any way).

Hope this helps - any other questions, just shoot smile

Originally Posted By: eno75
I had a little more opportunity to go over Gameplan and quite frankly with the right maps I think it could work really well. There are enough icons to get by- though a "missile" icon might be nice-

The scenario I imagine is similar to what is available to us through the TAD with broadcasting SPI. That's good for marking a target but not really that great at marking anything else. When we're with a regular group of guys I see a benefit of being able to figure out the location of different threats and or targets with gameplan. Guys who come in late can see the current lay of the land... which can be updated quite regularly-

What I'd like to see is a "touch to delete" feature as opposed to having to delete a bunch of things by dragging them to the trash can. I had some success "flicking" things to the trash but other times it just put down more icons.

Arrows, routes, orders... titles... all worked quite well. The maps as they're uploaded need to be reasonably focussed- zoomed in. I suspect the file we load won't be able to zoom in with the increased level of detail that we can zoom in with in the game. When I was zooming out the ARMA2 map I noticed the icons got much bigger... though the boxes / zones stayed the right size. Just be aware an icon might look enormous and cover a large amount of space if zoomed out on your current map.

And I guess what I'd like to know is- when we upload the file are we uploading the FILE or are we just using a screenshot of an existing map as it appears on the screen? The maps I was using from ARMA2 are such that the same level of detail is available just in larger and smaller fonts... With A10- as you zoom in you get into more and more town / area name detail- with added roads and building graphics available. THAT is what I think we'd need- so when a guy spots some armour amongst buildings he can zoom in, place the icons and allow others in his flight to zoom in, get their bearings, and then proceed to target with their TGP- if they even have one!

Anyway, just thoughts. Anyone else want to weigh in?
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#3565459 - 05/01/12 08:17 AM Re: A10 Late night... [Re: Wrecking Crew]
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Originally Posted By: Wrecking Crew
Rampant Bear would be a good test of Gameplan, since it can easily go over 24 hours.

......snip......


Expanded - Both Red and Blue teams can build points. Can Gameplan separate out the coalitions so Red can't see Blue? I haven't tried Gameplan yet.

WC


24 hours - in OUR real time... for 1 mission?

You can show and hide each others drawing layers (this is how you can create command groups and chain-of-command setup), but if you want to make SURE the other team can't 'cheat' then create separate rooms for each team. If I understand correctly... ?
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#3565461 - 05/01/12 08:20 AM Re: A10 Late night... [Re: eno75]
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I emailed the creator of the Flaming Cliffs map to ask if I could put it into MapLocker but not heard back from him yet.
Does anyone here have a way of getting a good area map of what you want in the app so we can try it properly?
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