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#3548000 - 03/30/12 08:58 PM SB Pro PE 2.654 Patch Released
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the patch is not posted on the eSim Games download page yet, but Sean has posted a link in this post:

http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showthread.php?t=16443

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The Release Notes:

This is a patch for SB Pro PE 2.640. It must be installed over an existing installation.

SB Pro PE 2.654 thread on the steelbeasts.com forum: http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showthread.php?t=16442


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#3548003 - 03/30/12 09:11 PM Re: SB Pro PE 2.654 Patch Released [Re: kramer]
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#3548004 - 03/30/12 09:16 PM Re: SB Pro PE 2.654 Patch Released [Re: Magnum]
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in post #9 of this thread: http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showthread.php?t=16442

Toyguy posts:

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Quick heads-up - if you aren't on CodeMeter runtime 4.40 you will need to be. Mine tossed an error until I upgraded. Might be in the Release Notes but I haven't looked yet.

so if you also get an error after applying the patch try installing the latest Codemeter Runtime Kit 4.40b available here:

http://codemeter.com/us/service/downloads.html

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#3548752 - 04/01/12 02:58 PM Re: SB Pro PE 2.654 Patch Released [Re: kramer]
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- still persisting bug: autocannon rounds dispersion - still large as before for 35 and 40 mm guns

- newly introduced bug: Leo-2, GPS - dynamic lead textbox not displayed when P key is pressed

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#3548822 - 04/01/12 04:53 PM Re: SB Pro PE 2.654 Patch Released [Re: Spearfish]
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What To Do If You Think You've Found A Bug: http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showthread.php?t=15831

Ssnake's post about the dispersion of the 40mm cannon: http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showpost.php?p=212641&postcount=36

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#3548832 - 04/01/12 05:02 PM Re: SB Pro PE 2.654 Patch Released [Re: kramer]
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- new bug is not very hard to examine - every SBPro PE user can check this in a few seconds. Well, maybe I have corrupt installation after patching?

- old bug is as it was before in my view: 35 mm Bushmaster-III and 40 mm Bofors L/70 guns still have too large dispersion. I fire them both from not moving IFV against also stationary target from at 2 km range and I get 30-50% hits. That's very low value barring in mind CV90 has advanced FCS and stabilization errors are not present. Therefore CV9040 is very weak platform because it has small number of ready to fire projectiles: BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOM! NO effect. It's time to escape...

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Ssnake's post about the dispersion of the 40mm cannon: http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbforums/showpost.php?p=212641&postcount=36


What can I say? Both 25 mm Bushmaster-I and especially 30 mm Mauser MK 30-2 guns have much smaller dispersion - in the same circumstances I can score 70-80% hits.

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#3548930 - 04/01/12 07:53 PM Re: SB Pro PE 2.654 Patch Released [Re: Spearfish]
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Originally Posted By: Spearfish
- still persisting bug: autocannon rounds dispersion - still large as before for 35 and 40 mm guns

Can you tell me what the standarddeviation is in SB Pro, and do you have a source for what it should be instead?

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- newly introduced bug: Leo-2, GPS - dynamic lead textbox not displayed when P key is pressed

It's a feature. There is ni such textbox in real life either, and since you actually know that you are pressing the button for dynamic lead, it isn't exactly needed anyway.
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#3549091 - 04/02/12 07:45 AM Re: SB Pro PE 2.654 Patch Released [Re: Ssnake]
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Originally Posted By: Spearfish
- still persisting bug: autocannon rounds dispersion - still large as before for 35 and 40 mm guns

Can you tell me what the standarddeviation is in SB Pro, and do you have a source for what it should be instead?


Apparently you know it very well and you just announced you fixed standard derivation bug which unfortunately is hardly noticeable for me and other people. Or maybe you have also some top secret data about Bushmaster-III and Bofors L/70 guns inaccuracy in addition to top secret data about L27 penetration?

Originally Posted By: Ssnake

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- newly introduced bug: Leo-2, GPS - dynamic lead textbox not displayed when P key is pressed

It's a feature. There is ni such textbox in real life either, and since you actually know that you are pressing the button for dynamic lead, it isn't exactly needed anyway.


So remove also other such features like "Palm Switch Off" textbox present in Abrams GPS. smile

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#3549116 - 04/02/12 08:37 AM Re: SB Pro PE 2.654 Patch Released [Re: kramer]
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One aspect of "apparent" inaccuracy is that the visual 'spread' is enhanced by a higher magnification. The likely change in dispersion is small - probably a difference between a 70% and 50% pH for the assumed 1SD in each plane. This will have little difference to the extreme 'wides' that you will get with around 1 in 10 to 1 in 100 rounds.

If you really are getting ~50% of the proportion of hits obtained with a less accurate round, I'd first check that your MPI is on the target centre - a bias towards and on an edge will reduce this to 50% max, regardless of consistency and tightness of the group.



While the palm switch and dynamic lead seem like similar functions they are in fact different - by default the Gunner has palm switch -"on" when in Joystick mode and pressing "P" will turn it off (which is important for dumping lead for correct operation of the FCS, but will also temporarily disable the turret drive). Lead is still available in the TC position but here the default behaviour is palm switch "off".

With the Leopard, the palm switch is simulated as being continually depressed by the gunner, and dynamic lead is applied when desired. The commander has no dynamic lead, and again only has his palm switch mode available. This makes operating the two positions much less confusing for a medium/large force where one player will occupy a series of commander/gunner positions in sequence &/or with multi-crew tanks.

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#3549155 - 04/02/12 10:02 AM Re: SB Pro PE 2.654 Patch Released [Re: kramer]
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Well, I probably have to record movie firing CV9035 and CV9040 and upload it on the Internet because otherwise you don't have a clue what I am talking about. I'll try to do that later.

Regardless of Dynamic Lead and Palm Switch functions the former was removed from GPS and the latter is still present there. I don't understand this inconsistency.

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