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#3546727 - 03/28/12 03:28 PM Re: New DLC for Flight Tomorrow [Re: Heretic]
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Originally Posted By: Heretic
That's what the core group gets when it behaves like idiots. From screenshot batches one and two as well as the first one or two press releases, it was pretty clear that Flight! is not going to be a FSXI. But this didn't and does not stop people from constantly complaining about what Flight! could or should be.
Joshua made the dev team's position clear and that's it. Period


Umm..OK. But if they were going to go "sim lite", which they clearly did, one would think that they would include some fairly compelling gameplay right? I mean..if they didn't have to spend hundreds of hours counting rivets to satisfy all us "idiots", surely they could have squeezed some gameplay into this game right? Right?? Let's face it. Flight didn't (or hasn't) delivered in any of the areas one might expect..whether you are a gamer or simmer or somewhere between.

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#3546761 - 03/28/12 04:19 PM Re: New DLC for Flight Tomorrow [Re: Heretic]
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Originally Posted By: Heretic
Originally Posted By: KRT_Bong
The worst part about this is this guy Joshua has(in corporate doublespeak) practically alienated an entire core group of customers (flight simmers) by showing us he doesn't care what we want it's not in his vision and the more vocal this core group is the more he ignores it.


That's what the core group gets when it behaves like idiots. From screenshot batches one and two as well as the first one or two press releases, it was pretty clear that Flight! is not going to be a FSXI. But this didn't and does not stop people from constantly complaining about what Flight! could or should be.
Joshua made the dev team's position clear and that's it. Period.

If anyone wants to try the more professional aspects of flight simming, there's more than enough alternatives.


Not the "unreasonable hardcore simmers" blame game again... if Flight was supposed to be just for casual external no-cockpit use then why would they include VOR navigation and IFR landing challenges? (glad they did as that is what I am currently enjoying)

I agree that some people went over the top with the discussion during the beta when the missing features first became apparent (thanks to Microsoft's ambiguous marketing), but if you understand anything about IT or Software Development then the current Flight strategy and Roadmap was long set, developed and almost ready for release by then, and that poor reception from the Flightsim community is not the reason for the lame cockpitless airplanes or the lack of TrackIR, even glass half full supporters of Flight (like me) know that.

The people in charge of Flight are making some stupid decisions which are risking the long term success of Flight even for people like me that enjoy it for what it is and have higher hopes for it, they are the ones to be held responsible, not the reception from the community.
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#3546785 - 03/28/12 04:57 PM Re: New DLC for Flight Tomorrow [Re: KRT_Bong]
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OMG!! You people are such whiners!! Can't you see how much fun it is searching for aerocaches... without TrackIR? It's nostalgic, like going back to the late 90's although with better graphics. And you guys diss the Zero? How stupid can you "hardcore" simmers be? They said before, this is supposed to be a game wherein grandkids can enjoy the "magic of flight" with their grandparents! What's more fun than watching granpa have nervous twitches and scream out in terror as the Jap Zero of his youth (or younger days) comes back to haunt him? OOOoooo!!!


:: sarcasm mode off ::

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#3546812 - 03/28/12 05:40 PM Re: New DLC for Flight Tomorrow [Re: KRT_Bong]
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Originally Posted By: KRT_Bong
https://www.facebook.com/msflight The comments here are all the marketing info they need.


Wow even on their official page the comments are 99% negative.
https://news.microsoftflight.com/blogs/news/archive/2012/03/27/the-zero.aspx

I wonder where MS gets the idea that there's a demand for this? Online in Flight I have only seen a few people flying P51s and usually it's because they just bought it and are talking about "how do I enable the cockpit?" until someone disappoints them with the truth.
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#3546890 - 03/28/12 07:52 PM Re: New DLC for Flight Tomorrow [Re: BeachAV8R]
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Originally Posted By: BeachAV8R



I just find it really hard to believe that nobody on the Flight Team (cough) raised their hand during the Whiteboard Meeting and said "uh...do you think there is an awkwardness to releasing a Zero that can only be flown over Hawaii..??" Granted..the Flight Team may be so young that they are unaware that a World War was fought in the Pacific, and that the surprise attack by the Japanese on Hawaii sunk the Arizona and killed thousands of men, etc..etc..

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This is precisely why you don't fire the old people because you think "the young" are more in touch with what customers want."
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#3546916 - 03/28/12 08:52 PM Re: New DLC for Flight Tomorrow [Re: KRT_Bong]
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Maybe they're planning a "Battle for the Aleutians" adventure pack?
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#3546963 - 03/28/12 10:47 PM Re: New DLC for Flight Tomorrow [Re: - Ice]
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
OMG!! You people are such whiners!!


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#3547119 - 03/29/12 09:21 AM Re: New DLC for Flight Tomorrow [Re: KRT_Bong]
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This GAME gets funnier and funnier lol
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#3547154 - 03/29/12 10:24 AM Re: New DLC for Flight Tomorrow [Re: kludger]
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Originally Posted By: kludger
Haha wow if the "1 airplane per month" doesn't even include a cockpit, it's even worse than we thought.


Wow...

Capture the feeling of flight in Microsoft Fail!

Soooo...who's getting fired first?

Really MS should have simply made their own competing products for FSX.
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#3547163 - 03/29/12 10:37 AM Re: New DLC for Flight Tomorrow [Re: KRT_Bong]
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I played it a little last night was bored of flying alone so I kept using the quick join feature in the multiplayer till I found a room with about 8-9 players and started flying, haven't figured out how to use the radio yet since there's no documentation I know of but I set out towards the name icons for my fellow flyers. But apparently the host got bored and he quit and everyone disappeared and once again I was playing completely by myself. In other Live games the host quits someone else becomes the new host, you don't lose everyone but since there is no interaction in multiplayer I guess it is a moot point.


Edited by KRT_Bong (03/29/12 10:38 AM)
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