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#3553059 - 04/09/12 12:05 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Edited by Amidkor (04/09/12 02:04 AM)
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#3553101 - 04/09/12 03:40 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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This video shows the S-300P shooting ground target... (again the Zemlja switch) 
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home
While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3553147 - 04/09/12 07:49 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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No, vacuum tube electronics has not problems with EMP... It's like a thunder storm weather - nothing special... I've read an article about test against nuclear missiles in USSR, two were launched, first one exploded above the SAM site, and then the site works against second one - no problem with that.. I am searching that article and if find it will provide more aqurate facts.  Ah,ok,you are right,i only forgot about that... But anyway,i dont want to be where a 15kt Warhead explodes above me,even if its like 10km or so... I think it will still make a lot of Overpressure,Light and Noise... The safety range for the 15kt warhead equipped V-760 15D missile is 6km. Over 6km not even a window should broke. This is also the minimum altitude it should detonated above ground, to protect against civilian casualties.  Nice reading... http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/www/effects/
Edited by Hpasp (04/09/12 08:32 AM)
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Hpasp
Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home
While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3553181 - 04/09/12 09:41 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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...aand 100% kill probability distance could be???? About a mile maybe?
Edited by piston79 (04/09/12 10:32 AM)
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#3553212 - 04/09/12 10:53 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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...aand 100% kill probability distance could be???? About a mile maybe? If this is true then shooting will no longer be challenging. But I guess that's the point.
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#3553233 - 04/09/12 11:58 AM
Re: SAM Simulator
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...aand 100% kill probability distance could be???? About a mile maybe? 100% kill is approx ~2400m radius from the Epicenter, caused by the Air Blast Shock Wave. Within ~80m radius, all object will instantly disappear, due to the Nuclear Fireball. I have not calculated Thermal Radiation (Burn, Flash) and Nuclear Radiation yet, but I expect these has minor effect, compared to the Shock Wave. 14:40 19th of December, 1972.
SR-71 bomb damage assessment flight number two.
S-75M3 Volkhov
00:03:43, V-760 15D Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 79km
Target azimuth: 266°
Target elevation: 17°
Target altitude: 23,9km
SNR mode: LORO - 150km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
00:03:59, V-760 15D Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 38km
Target azimuth: 272°
Target elevation: 21°
Target altitude: 14km
SNR mode: LORO - 150km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
00:04:05, V-760 15D Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 39km
Target azimuth: 274°
Target elevation: 23°
Target altitude: 15,8km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
00:04:37, Missile exploded on Channel-1
SR-71 Habu hit by nuclear blast. (distance from epicenter: 3936m)
00:04:44, Missile exploded on Channel-2
SR-71 Habu killed by nuclear blast. (distance from epicenter: 1113m)
Total, SNR On Air Time: 3min 56sec
Edited by Hpasp (04/09/12 01:56 PM)
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home
While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3553344 - 04/09/12 02:58 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Poking one easy scenarios, and check what happens... Is that possible(?) with this huge Parameter?: 14:00 28th of March, 1985.
SR-71 Operation Giant Reach.
S-200VE Vega-E
00:03:54, Missile launched from launcher-6
Target distance: 293km
Target azimuth: 331°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 886m/s (3,1 Mach)
Target altitude: 20km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target during flight
Received signal strength: 7dB
00:04:55, Missile launched from launcher-5
Target distance: 242km
Target azimuth: 329°
Target elevation: 3°
Target angular speed: 743m/s (2,6 Mach)
Target altitude: 20km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Home on Jam
Received signal strength: 45dB
00:05:26, Missile launched from launcher-4
Target distance: 222km
Target azimuth: 324°
Target elevation: 4°
Target angular speed: 579m/s (2 Mach)
Target altitude: 20km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Home on Jam
Received signal strength: 45dB
00:07:18, Missile exploded
SR-71 Habu hit by SAM. (miss distance: 164m)
00:07:51, Missile exploded
SR-71 Habu killed by SAM. (miss distance: 252m)
00:13:04, Missile launched from launcher-1
Target distance: 262km
Target azimuth: 284°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -161m/s (-0,6 Mach)
Target altitude: 7,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target during flight
Received signal strength: 26,7dB
Total, SNR On Air Time: 13min 38sec Another quriosity...(First missile hits, no mather of jamming... 
Edited by piston79 (04/10/12 02:58 AM)
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#3553354 - 04/09/12 03:05 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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Poking one easy scenarios, and check what happens...
Is that possible(?) with this huge Parameter?:
Parameter is only important with systems tracking the missile and the target with the same relatively narrow antenna beam. (Dvina, Volhov, Neva) All the other SAM missile can fly directly towards the predicted intercept point, while the target is tracked with the SNR. (KRUG, VEGA)
Edited by Hpasp (04/09/12 03:07 PM)
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"
http://sites.google.com/site/samsimulator1972/home
While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3553370 - 04/09/12 03:28 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
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But that 4000m + hit range would hit a truck load of targets in operation linebacker, for example, right? Would it also be possible to have the missile explode if it was, say, 700m away from the target instead of being within proximity fuse range? Do I have to be within proxy fuse range to to blow up? How else could you get a missile to explode 4000 meters away from a target?I would say that I could detonate my warhead at anytime by use of the K3 command. I am probably 100% wrong, and am sorry if this is a complete waste of your time  Also, I found this interesting, yet semi irrelevant video, about an American SAM armed with a nuclear warhead: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=rgFIhomusc8#!
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