#3385774 - 09/08/11 09:14 PM
Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
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Falcon 4.0 available from here: http://www.amazon.com/Falcon-4-0-Pc/dp/B00000K4KFPlease do not post links to download copyrighted content. Microprose may be gone, but the protection of their intellectual property still exists. Thanks for your cooperation.
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#3499435 - 01/20/12 06:22 PM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
[Re: Force10]
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So just to be clear, Falcon 4.0 exe: bad Mods created from stolen source code: good
jk Considering how the IP holder jammed the community back in the day I say both are "good" from a moral standpoint. AF was *not* the solution.
"Learning to fly the Falcon is just your ticket to the dance" - Pete 'Boomer' Bonanni.
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#3499476 - 01/20/12 06:50 PM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
[Re: 531 Ghost]
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This isn't a rule that SimHQ pulled from thin air so that they can assert some authority on their website. They are following the law. It might be arbitrary as Force10 has pointed out since we are all benefiting from that original sin--which we do by playing variations of the original code for free. But don't blame SimHQ--they are just keeping it legit (which I appreciate). Anyone who wants the original falcon.exe can buy F4 cheaply or get the executable easily enough from other players.
Last edited by Smokin_Hole; 01/20/12 06:51 PM.
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#3499491 - 01/20/12 07:01 PM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
[Re: 531 Ghost]
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Yes I am aware and agree with SimHQ's position, nothing else they can do. Just making a distinction between what may be morally ambiguous to some versus what is strictly legal.
"Learning to fly the Falcon is just your ticket to the dance" - Pete 'Boomer' Bonanni.
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#3499807 - 01/21/12 12:17 AM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
[Re: 531 Ghost]
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Heh, Unauthorised distribution of commercial software is straight way to get in troubles. Mods are kinda grey area. To make you feel better, F4 developers including Falcon father Gilman "Chopstick" Louie are aware of mods and even praise the work community has done.
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#3536848 - 03/12/12 05:39 AM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
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There still appears to be some confusion on this issue. "Sharing" of the Falcon 4.0 resource files through unapproved distributors is illegal. Any links found with these references will be removed and posters of those links will be directly and harshly dealt with, not excluding a permanent ban from the SimHQ site.
Do not post links to illegal material. Even a link to a link to a link to illegal material is a violation of the SimHQ Use Agreement. Please, just don't go there!
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#3536928 - 03/12/12 12:45 PM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
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Originan Falcon code has been released to public domain after Microprose closure, executable not. This means that you can develop using the code as long as you don't earn money for it but the copyright for the finished product is still being enforced.
Last edited by Bluedeath; 03/12/12 12:47 PM.
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#3537007 - 03/12/12 03:56 PM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
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@Bludeath, I'd be interested to see the documentation that releases the original Falcon code to public domain. Can you PM it to me, or share it here?
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#3537042 - 03/12/12 04:36 PM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
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Originan Falcon code has been released to public domain after Microprose closure, executable not. This means that you can develop using the code as long as you don't earn money for it but the copyright for the finished product is still being enforced. The source code was not released with the blessing of those who owned the intellectual property (IP) at that time (as was the case with EECH and EAW source code). AFAIK, Graphsim Entertainment currently owns the IP to Falcon..... EDIT: Check that. Just found this on the Graphsim site ( http://www.graphsim.com/legal.html) FALCON 4.0: ALLIED FORCE is produced by Graphsim Entertainment Corp. under exclusive license from Atari Interactive, Inc. FALCON 4.0 and ATARI word marks and logos are trademarks or registered trademarks of Atari Interactive, Inc. in the U.S. and other territories.So Atari owns it, unless they sold it since the Graphsim web site was last updated. It is not public domain.
Last edited by guod; 03/12/12 04:44 PM. Reason: clarification on who owns the IP and SC
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#3543001 - 03/21/12 11:49 PM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
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The educational value of an intellectual property doesn't reflect on the legality of freely sharing or distributing that IP.
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#3564363 - 04/29/12 01:20 PM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
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Was thinking about getting a copy from the Amazon link, but not at $150 +. Little rich for my blood. And to think that at one time, I had two binder editions.
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#3564476 - 04/29/12 05:55 PM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
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Was thinking about getting a copy from the Amazon link, but not at $150 +. Little rich for my blood. And to think that at one time, I had two binder editions. I saw one listed there for under $30, and a few in the $50 range. Here's one on eBay with a buy-it-now price of $40: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Falcon-4-0-PC-Ga...=item46034c6f98
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#3631123 - 08/22/12 09:22 PM
Re: Resource for Falcon 4.0 exe file
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I recently found this on an "Abandonware" website The very first rendition of Falcon 4 - publisher given as "Hasbro International"
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