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#3573692 - 05/16/12 04:34 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]
Hpasp Offline
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Registered: 12/31/09
Posts: 1729
Loc: Hungary, Europe
Congrat for the shot!

Beside the currently available 5V28E V-880E, the 5V28N V-880N missile is also planned for the Vega, in the future.
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Free SAM Simulator, "Realistic to the Switch"

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While Fighter Pilots made movies, SAM Officers made History.
(U-2 over Sverdlovsk, B-52's over Hanoi, F-4 Phantoms over the Sinai, F-16's and the F-117A Stealth bomber over the Balkans.)
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#3573710 - 05/16/12 06:16 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
farokh Offline
farokh
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Registered: 04/22/12
Posts: 624
Loc: IRAN
dear hpasp u writed on sa-5 pdf s-200ve vega can maximum can derstroy target at 244 km supersonic / 255 km sobsonic

but i take a test!

i choos asuluk yatget b-1

i tracked target below 200 km but system not send enoghf DB signal!!! i am confused

if ve vega can destroy target at 244 km .. why sa-5 system can't send enoghf DB signal below 200km ... this is mmmmmm like joke

maybe i can't use corectly with this sam!
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after report

Click to reveal..
Asuluk training ground.

Practice target:
RM-217 Zvezda [program-4] simulating B-1B Lancer

S-200VE Vega-E


01:30, Practice target RM-217 Zvezda [program-4] simulating B-1B Lancer launched

00:02:26, Missile launched from launcher-1
Target distance: 150km
Target azimuth: 71°
Target elevation: 5°
Target angular speed: 738m/s (2.6 Mach)
Target altitude: 14.8km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target during flight
Received signal strength: 15.4dB


00:02:36, Missile launched from launcher-2
Target distance: 142km
Target azimuth: 71°
Target elevation: 6°
Target angular speed: 886m/s (3.1 Mach)
Target altitude: 17km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target during flight
Received signal strength: 17dB


00:02:56, Missile launched from launcher-3
Target distance: 122km
Target azimuth: 72°
Target elevation: 8°
Target angular speed: 1061m/s (3.7 Mach)
Target altitude: 18.1km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target during flight
Received signal strength: 20.9dB


00:03:53, Missile exploded
Practice target RM-217 Zvezda [program-4] simulating B-1B Lancer killed by SAM. (miss distance: 15m)

Total, SNR On Air Time: 4min 51sec




3DAAAAAR
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#3573714 - 05/16/12 06:21 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
Alien_MasterMynd Offline
Member

Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 245
Loc: Czech Republic
Bastards!!!!!! :-) Notice number of missiles launched :-)

Click to reveal..
13:46 24th of March, 1986.
Operation Prairie Fire

S-200VE Vega-E


00:03:39, Missile launched from launcher-1
Target distance: 101km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 275m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 4,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 37,3dB


00:03:45, Missile launched from launcher-2
Target distance: 100km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 275m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 4,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 37,5dB


00:03:50, Missile launched from launcher-3
Target distance: 98km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 275m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 4,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 37,6dB


00:04:00, Missile launched from launcher-4
Target distance: 95km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 275m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 4,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 37,9dB


00:04:13, Missile launched from launcher-5
Target distance: 93km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 1°
Target angular speed: 103m/s (0,3 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,6km
RPC mode: MHI-FM - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 26,2dB


00:05:01, Missile launched from launcher-6
Target distance: 102km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 1°
Target angular speed: -272m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 37,2dB


00:06:07, Missile launched from launcher-1
Target distance: 120km
Target azimuth: 11°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -274m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 35,3dB


00:06:16, Missile launched from launcher-2
Target distance: 123km
Target azimuth: 11°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -274m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 35,1dB


00:06:25, Missile launched from launcher-3
Target distance: 125km
Target azimuth: 11°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -274m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 34,8dB


00:06:34, Missile launched from launcher-4
Target distance: 128km
Target azimuth: 11°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -275m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 34,5dB


00:06:42, Missile launched from launcher-5
Target distance: 130km
Target azimuth: 11°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -275m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 34,3dB


Total, SNR On Air Time: 5min 25sec


3DAAR

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#3573715 - 05/16/12 06:24 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
Alien_MasterMynd Offline
Member

Registered: 04/27/12
Posts: 245
Loc: Czech Republic
milang: RSSI (and SNR) depends on RCS of the target. And RCS of B-1 is realy low :-) You have to shoot at something bigger (with larger RCS) at maximum distance....

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#3573716 - 05/16/12 06:26 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
piston79 Online   sleepy
Member

Registered: 09/02/11
Posts: 888
Please, put that info (pictures and AAR) in spoiler text (the button which looks like dollar sign).

About your question, could you google the RCS (radar reflection) for B-1 and say B-52... The killing range depends from detection range too... biggrin

Quote:
milang: RSSI (and SNR) depends on RCS of the target. And RCS of B-1 is realy low :-) You have to shoot at something bigger (with larger RCS) at maximum distance.


O, I am late....


Edited by piston79 (05/16/12 06:29 AM)
Edit Reason: Allien Mastermind has 40 fingers ;)

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#3573719 - 05/16/12 06:43 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]
farokh Offline
farokh
Member

Registered: 04/22/12
Posts: 624
Loc: IRAN
Originally Posted By: Alien_MasterMynd
Bastards!!!!!! :-) Notice number of missiles launched :-)

Click to reveal..
13:46 24th of March, 1986.
Operation Prairie Fire

S-200VE Vega-E


00:03:39, Missile launched from launcher-1
Target distance: 101km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 275m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 4,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 37,3dB


00:03:45, Missile launched from launcher-2
Target distance: 100km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 275m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 4,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 37,5dB


00:03:50, Missile launched from launcher-3
Target distance: 98km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 275m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 4,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 37,6dB


00:04:00, Missile launched from launcher-4
Target distance: 95km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 2°
Target angular speed: 275m/s (0,9 Mach)
Target altitude: 4,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 37,9dB


00:04:13, Missile launched from launcher-5
Target distance: 93km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 1°
Target angular speed: 103m/s (0,3 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,6km
RPC mode: MHI-FM - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 26,2dB


00:05:01, Missile launched from launcher-6
Target distance: 102km
Target azimuth: 12°
Target elevation: 1°
Target angular speed: -272m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 37,2dB


00:06:07, Missile launched from launcher-1
Target distance: 120km
Target azimuth: 11°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -274m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 35,3dB


00:06:16, Missile launched from launcher-2
Target distance: 123km
Target azimuth: 11°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -274m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 35,1dB


00:06:25, Missile launched from launcher-3
Target distance: 125km
Target azimuth: 11°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -274m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 34,8dB


00:06:34, Missile launched from launcher-4
Target distance: 128km
Target azimuth: 11°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -275m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 34,5dB


00:06:42, Missile launched from launcher-5
Target distance: 130km
Target azimuth: 11°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: -275m/s (-1 Mach)
Target altitude: 2,5km
RPC mode: MHI - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Vcr<0
Received signal strength: 34,3dB


Total, SNR On Air Time: 5min 25sec


3DAAR


o my god .... that is a murder dude!!! u fu**ed up that pooor f-14 biggrin that f-14 conversion to energy lawncareby20mm


Edited by milang (05/16/12 06:54 AM)

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#3573724 - 05/16/12 06:53 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]
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dude... i have problem looks like u!!!

i launched more missile like u but no one exlopded!!!

mayhap mr.hp can help us


Edited by milang (05/16/12 07:45 AM)

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#3573728 - 05/16/12 07:20 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: farokh]
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Originally Posted By: milang
[quote=Alien_MasterMynd]Bastards!!!!!! :-) Notice number of missiles launched :-)
o my god .... that is a murder dude!!! u fu**ed up that pooor f-14 biggrin that f-14 conversion to energy lawncareby20mm

But no missile exploded :-(

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#3573827 - 05/16/12 10:46 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Hpasp]
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The F-14's have good tactics :-)

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#3573834 - 05/16/12 10:52 AM Re: SAM Simulator [Re: Alien_MasterMynd]
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"As the tomcats crossed the 'line of death', all radar and electronic warfare operators in the battle force, intently watched their scopes for the first indication of missile launch. Suddenly the Libyans fired two Gammons at the Fighting Diamondbacks. The F-14's, which were warned of the activation of the Square Pair radar by the Hawkeyes, avoided the lumbering missiles by diving to the surface. While EA-6B Prowlers jammed the fire control radar, the SA-5s continued their long-range, high-altitude flight before crashing harmlessly into the sea."

page 132,
Joseph T. Stanik, El Dorado Canyon
Naval Institute Press, Annapolis, Maryland
http://www.amazon.com/El-Dorado-Canyon-Reagans-Undeclared/dp/1557509832

Best book on this topic!
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Edited by Hpasp (05/16/12 11:58 AM)
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