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#3533264 - 03/06/12 02:11 AM Re: Friday March 2nd 1C update with pictures [Re: shadylurker]
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Originally Posted By: shadylurker
Do you want pictures of computer code?

Honestly, they have given you a picture from what you would actually want to look at. Sorry 3d modelers don't just show up to work and do nothing...complaining about pictures is...slow...


I wouldn't mind pictures of the code. smile


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#3533266 - 03/06/12 02:19 AM Re: Friday March 2nd 1C update with pictures [Re: Freycinet]
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Chivas and Furbs. I have to be honest here, I can't remember anymore what the goals of the debate are. Are you looking for one of you to change their position? Is it 3pts for a win but still a point for a draw?

Has it been a year already, it only seems a few months ago Mrs Frog had to pop my tongue back in my mouth re:seizure of seeing that big yellow tiger moth on my screen?

A year? Wow. Time flies..

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#3533269 - 03/06/12 02:27 AM Re: Friday March 2nd 1C update with pictures [Re: Freycinet]
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Frog, nothing else to bloody do in the 20 mins before i have to leave for work. smile
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#3533273 - 03/06/12 02:37 AM Re: Friday March 2nd 1C update with pictures [Re: BKHZ_Furbs]
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Originally Posted By: BKHZ_Furbs
Originally Posted By: Chivas
Originally Posted By: shadylurker
Do you want pictures of computer code?

Honestly, they have given you a picture from what you would actually want to look at. Sorry 3d modelers don't just show up to work and do nothing...complaining about pictures is...slow...


I agree, much of what people want fixed are the CTD's, AI, Commands, FM's, Performance, that can't been seen in a screenshot, and frankly probably not ready for a video. The developers have stated they are working on those features, and apparently have people in the studio doing something, so I suppose thats what they would be working on. The naysayers are entrenched in their position and usually over exaggerate the doom and gloom, drawing an opposite opinion, which degenerates into a useless fanboi, hater name calling.


Forget what about 100 people on online forums tell you about CLOD good or bad....

Chivas, CLOD had a ready made fan base primed for it, everyone eager and waiting to explode into the long awaited sequel, sqds ready for online wars, mission making fans and talented campaign makers excited to get there hands on these triggers we have all been told about and how they will make missions fantastic and 24 hour wars on dogfight maps the best thing ever, you cant even enter a pilot name and join a sqd...that tells you all about CLOD

Whats happened after 12 months of release...12 months?...almost nothing, we STILL have a broken game with EVERY feature unfinished or off the mark, check out MISSION for today Chivas and look at the CLOD section, go on check...that tells you all about CLOD

When i can fire up CLOD, enter my own name and join a historical sqd and fight in a campaign that makes me feel im in the Battle of Britain with accurate FMs, have a sqd scramble and get instructions from ground control and then enter a fight vs AI i can believe, then the single player aspect of CLOD will have arrived...it wasn't just me who thought this would be a given in a "Battle of Britian sim right????!!!


When i can play in online wars and COOPs with my sqd i will believe the online will have arrived.

Im waiting...


All we have is 2 servers trying their best and about 80 people in the WORLD each night playing ...that tells you all about CLOD.

The forums are dead, there is nothing to talk about, where are the forums full of people talking about the exciting single missions or the realistic campaigns they are playing? this is supposed to be a "Battle of Britian" SIM, go on play the allied single player campaign Chivas...that will tell you all about CLOD.


I believe all want a fantastic sim but so far it just hasn't happened, when it does i promise i will be the first to shout from the roof tops about how great CLOD and the development team are...until then i will say it how it is....not that what i think or anyone else thinks matters...CLOD tells you all you need to know about CLOD.

Until the rhetoric from Luthier actually happens, until its fixed, until all the talk of how amazing CLOD is going to be actually is happening i wont believe it.






What part of "Unfinished" don't you understand.
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#3533278 - 03/06/12 02:41 AM Re: Friday March 2nd 1C update with pictures [Re: Chivas]
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Which bit of "i will believe it when i see it" dont you understand?
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#3533284 - 03/06/12 03:07 AM Re: Friday March 2nd 1C update with pictures [Re: FearlessFrog]
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Originally Posted By: FearlessFrog
Chivas and Furbs. I have to be honest here, I can't remember anymore what the goals of the debate are. Are you looking for one of you to change their position? Is it 3pts for a win but still a point for a draw?

Has it been a year already, it only seems a few months ago Mrs Frog had to pop my tongue back in my mouth re:seizure of seeing that big yellow tiger moth on my screen?

A year? Wow. Time flies..


My goal was never to change Furbs, or any others naysayers mind, if they can't see the possibilities now, they never will, until Luthier takes them by the hand and shows them the finished product. I'm just pointing out to others sitting on the fence or new to the forums that its all not gloom and doom. Its very selfish on my part, the genre is so small, that any sale of COD, could keep the development in business long enough to finish the AI, Commands, FM, DM etc. I see no point in endlessly stating whats not finished in COD, as that has been painfully obvious to everyone including the developer for many months.
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#3533289 - 03/06/12 03:18 AM Re: Friday March 2nd 1C update with pictures [Re: Chivas]
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Originally Posted By: Chivas

if they can't see the possibilities now, they never will


I can see possibilities Chivas, unfortunatley I can't play them. I guess I missed the part on the box that said "You'll enjoy watching this collect dust on your shelf for 1 to 2 years while we possibly make this a playable sim" (sarcasm off)
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#3533393 - 03/06/12 09:10 AM Re: Friday March 2nd 1C update with pictures [Re: Force10]
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Originally Posted By: Force10
Originally Posted By: Chivas

if they can't see the possibilities now, they never will


I can see possibilities Chivas, unfortunatley I can't play them. I guess I missed the part on the box that said "You'll enjoy watching this collect dust on your shelf for 1 to 2 years while we possibly make this a playable sim" (sarcasm off)


I had no idea how much turbulence you experience flying in a cardboard box. Hmmm Spitgirl is the flight attendant?? Maybe I can get
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#3533483 - 03/06/12 11:44 AM Re: Friday March 2nd 1C update with pictures [Re: Freycinet]
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I honestly don't understand what there is to be upset about. What else is out there right now? what makes you feel like you haven't gotten a product? Go play Battle of Britain 2 or the old Il2, In my opinion they are total crap compared with CLOD. I can understand being upset about CTD's and not being able to play the game. But the people complaining about historical load outs, 100 octane, and flight models are a little ridiculous as this is the best sim out at the moment. Just be happy it even exists at all.

Complaining about the FM, to me, sounds like a racing driver blaming the car for their problems when it has nothing to do with the car and everything to do with the driver taking the time to learn the car. Not coming into a race (game) basically telling people what you read about the specific car, and that you cant succeed without that extra 5 mph, it doesn't matter it takes corners like it's on rails.

Take the time, learn your aircraft advantages or run away from the fight. Or please just run away from the internet.



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#3533510 - 03/06/12 12:27 PM Re: Friday March 2nd 1C update with pictures [Re: shadylurker]
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Originally Posted By: shadylurker
I honestly don't understand what there is to be upset about. What else is out there right now? what makes you feel like you haven't gotten a product? Go play Battle of Britain 2 or the old Il2, In my opinion they are total crap compared with CLOD. I can understand being upset about CTD's and not being able to play the game. But the people complaining about historical load outs, 100 octane, and flight models are a little ridiculous as this is the best sim out at the moment. Just be happy it even exists at all.

Complaining about the FM, to me, sounds like a racing driver blaming the car for their problems when it has nothing to do with the car and everything to do with the driver taking the time to learn the car. Not coming into a race (game) basically telling people what you read about the specific car, and that you cant succeed without that extra 5 mph, it doesn't matter it takes corners like it's on rails.

Take the time, learn your aircraft advantages or run away from the fight. Or please just run away from the internet.



Wow, thanks for that insightful post! All the things that have plagued the offline play for COD have been magically fixed with your words of wisdom! Pointless AI? Fixed! Immersive campaign? Fixed! CTD's? Fixed! Radio commands? Fixed! Trees you can't fly through? Fixed! Plus a ton of other stuff, fixed! If only you graced us with this post 9 months ago, could have saved the franchise from any negative feedback!
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