And with that shadylurker walks away spittle dripping off his head, the result of a thorough tongue lashing from Force10

I must say Force your post does seem a tad agressive

I stopped reading after that.



Reminds me of the Monty Python dead parrot sketch.

lol we did the dead parrot skit last week

I agree COD system Performance, AI, and Commands have made offline play not worth the effort for some, but as I've said many times atleast our investment has made it possible we could all have the sim we want in the future. I don't see anyone else developing one or about to develop one, that we could support. In the mean time continually trashing the sim isn't going to make it happen any sooner. It isn't going to make the developer work any harder than they already are. It isn't going to make people any more disappointed than they already are. The only possible outcome of our continued negativity is that it could drive away enough sales to make the development untenable. I don't think anyone really believes that the developer is that incompetent, or has any ulterior motives, to screw us over. That said the development could fail for any number of reasons, but the investment hasn't been that significant, atleast financially for us. We aren't going to lose our house and our children aren't going to go unfed.

Chivas how early was CLOD been released would you say?

Have you considered that in an effort to provide consistent rebuttals it might be inadvertently exasperating the position of those that are feeling grumpy. Put another way, your strategy might be correct and your goal a noble one (to give people new to the game another perspective, so that they might buy it and keep it alive) but your tactics might be actively contradicting your goals - you may be making it worse?

The moaners might not be continuing to moan unless they have a foil to fight with. The arguing is actually the occupation if they can't get the game to work or are let down by it.

I don't mean this to be critical, and 90% of the discussion we have are all actually fairly nicely spirited, but it's something to consider if it's tempting to fight fire with fire.

Come this Friday, we'll all be enjoying the new patch anyway!

Originally I thought the main issues with COD, the performance optimization, AI, and Command issues, were eight months to a year away, but the graphic rewrite has set back the main issues a few months. The next performance patch and if not included hopefully the AI patch to follow soon after will make the sim playable by most people. Once the game engine is working properly, adding missing and unfinished features should come on a more accelerated schedule.

I understand your theory, but its been my experience that nothing will stop people from moaning. Do you actually think the moaning would have stopped six months ago if there had been no one posting anything positive. You would have had a forum filled with nothing but negative comments. How would that play for people looking for user information on the sim.

Is this true? I had read that there will not be an update this week as there are holidays later this week.

True, but it's worth considering that there are other things rather than point, counter-point posts i.e. we would still have forum content other than moaning. There are some good things that get posted here that aren't rebuttals (aars, videos, missions, screens etc), and they probably help more with people wandering into the CloD world for the first time and wondering if this isn't a re-enactment of The Somme in forum form.

Mathematically you may be doubling the size of the moan content with rebuttal - the new people would still see the argument anyway, plus an answered call just continues the conversation.

Anyway, it was just a thought - like I said, the vast majority of the discussions here are enjoyable and I wouldn't want a place that was 'moan-free' or 'happy-free' to either extreme. Reality is usually somewhere in the middle.