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#3532557 - 03/05/12 07:49 AM Re: Movies that re-write history [Re: PanzerMeyer]
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Yes, the specific events are fictional but the historical setting and circumstances are accurate as far as I can tell.



Like U-571. neaner
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#3532591 - 03/05/12 09:29 AM Re: Movies that re-write history [Re: Snapdad2112]
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Braveheart movie > Braveheart historical records. Yeah, that's right. Better acting, better visuals, better sound, better music, better battle scenes, better everything!

It's my favorite movie of all-time, so don't diss!!! ar15


Now back on topic....

What movies don't re-write history sans documentaries? And many of them would be too boring for the "mainstream audiences" that we so loathe if they kept to historical authenticity.

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#3532912 - 03/05/12 03:57 PM Re: Movies that re-write history [Re: Biggles07]
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Quintessential Biggles. Never misses an opportunity to bash all Americans.


Yer Wha? Its called 'having a laugh', Vertigo. Ho Ho Ho. biggrin You can take the p*ss out of Blighty all you want mate, I'll laugh along with you if its good. smile Where are all the examples of me maliciously 'bashing' Americans? LOL! Cheer up ffs. 90% of my IL2 squadron are Yanks (a lot), we make fun of each other all the time, its just banter. If I had a penny for the amount of times I've been called a 'Limey B*stard' on TS, I'd be very rich. It doesn't make me cry, however.....and I'm still standing. hahaha Just a bit fun, sheesh.

I take the p*ss out of Oz all the time for instance, and Ajay etc never get upset...and normally fire back with something gold! (might be because they know I'm kidding, and they have a GSOH). So sensitive! hahaha

I'll try not to offend your country's honour in future. As long as you promise to spell honour properly in future. Till then, fair game. biggrin The point was Vertigo, people are ignorant worldwide (UK included) and many believe dramatisations etc to be factual. I exaggerated a bit for comic effect, its called hyperbole. I don't even know why I'm explaining this, tbh.

If I wanted to stick the boot in about 'gullibility' I would have mentioned something like....Hmmmm, I dunno, between 3.5 and 8 million (depending on source) Americans thinking they have been abducted by or had contact with Aliens. rofl You can't tell me that isn't fecking funny. I'd better not though, as I'll be 'bashing' the US (rolleyes) and it might upset you. Sorry about that. *Wait a minute, I'm not....really. That was a blatant lie. hahaha *.

Some people, eh? Never mind. biggrin


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#3532913 - 03/05/12 03:57 PM Re: Movies that re-write history [Re: Snapdad2112]
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I'd like to add another, but it's a TV series:

The Pacific.
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#3532919 - 03/05/12 04:04 PM Re: Movies that re-write history [Re: Vertigo1]
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Originally Posted By: Vertigo1
I'd like to add another, but it's a TV series:

The Pacific.
I have yet to see that. The consensus seems to be that people didn't like it nearly as much as Band of Brothers.
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#3532968 - 03/05/12 05:07 PM Re: Movies that re-write history [Re: Snapdad2112]
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The Pacific is worth watching, but it's not 10% of the greatness that IS Band of Brothers.
In BoB you get attached to all of the characters. In The Pacific, you don't know who it's really following, and you just don't get into the characters or situations well. Good actors, just the story/writing isn't on par. A missed opportunity. I hope they do another series, following naval battles in the pacific.
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#3533022 - 03/05/12 06:05 PM Re: Movies that re-write history [Re: Snapdad2112]
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I tried watchimg the pacific twice now and it has never held my interest long enough to get much past ep 3 the first time or 4 at the second attempt.Obviously BoB was more character driven whereas pacific seems more about the overall war and seriously lacking in character development.I couldnt really care less when watching what i did of pacific if any of them died , whereas in BoB i was a bit crushed everytime one of the men went down smile

I may struggle with it again one day as i heard it improves in the later episodes, does it ?
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#3533137 - 03/05/12 09:01 PM Re: Movies that re-write history [Re: Vertigo1]
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Originally Posted By: Vertigo1
Originally Posted By: Biggles07
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Quintessential Biggles. Never misses an opportunity to bash all Americans.


Yer Wha? Its called 'having a laugh', Vertigo. Ho Ho Ho. biggrin You can take the p*ss out of Blighty all you want mate, I'll laugh along with you if its good. smile Where are all the examples of me maliciously 'bashing' Americans? LOL! Cheer up ffs. 90% of my IL2 squadron are Yanks (a lot), we make fun of each other all the time, its just banter. If I had a penny for the amount of times I've been called a 'Limey B*stard' on TS, I'd be very rich. It doesn't make me cry, however.....and I'm still standing. hahaha Just a bit fun, sheesh.

I take the p*ss out of Oz all the time for instance, and Ajay etc never get upset...and normally fire back with something gold! (might be because they know I'm kidding, and they have a GSOH). So sensitive! hahaha

I'll try not to offend your country's honour in future. As long as you promise to spell honour properly in future. Till then, fair game. biggrin The point was Vertigo, people are ignorant worldwide (UK included) and many believe dramatisations etc to be factual. I exaggerated a bit for comic effect, its called hyperbole. I don't even know why I'm explaining this, tbh.

If I wanted to stick the boot in about 'gullibility' I would have mentioned something like....Hmmmm, I dunno, between 3.5 and 8 million (depending on source) Americans thinking they have been abducted by or had contact with Aliens. rofl You can't tell me that isn't fecking funny. I'd better not though, as I'll be 'bashing' the US (rolleyes) and it might upset you. Sorry about that. *Wait a minute, I'm not....really. That was a blatant lie. hahaha *.

Some people, eh? Never mind. biggrin


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Don't worry, the feeling is mutual. Not sure why you have it in yer noggin that I'm maliciously 'bashing' Americans, but its so ludicrously risible and wrong that frankly I don't care. smile Thats your problem, not mine. I do however note the utter absence of any evidence for this, and the fact that no one else appears to think so but you. *shrugs*.

C'est la vie. You might want to take up the 'Cheerio Challenge' in the mornings though. Give it a week. Its the food of Cheerful Champions, so 'start your day the crunchy sunshine way', just like me mate, Ajay. That cereal recommendation of yours changed my life cobber, cheers. Can't thank ye enough....What a cheery Aussie chap! biggrin I was a misery guts like some here, too. Days were forlorn and filled with gloom, now there's chunks of joy in me milky spoon.

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#3533154 - 03/05/12 09:33 PM Re: Movies that re-write history [Re: Ajay]
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Originally Posted By: Ajay
I tried watchimg the pacific twice now and it has never held my interest long enough to get much past ep 3 the first time or 4 at the second attempt.Obviously BoB was more character driven whereas pacific seems more about the overall war and seriously lacking in character development.I couldnt really care less when watching what i did of pacific if any of them died , whereas in BoB i was a bit crushed everytime one of the men went down smile

I may struggle with it again one day as i heard it improves in the later episodes, does it ?



Nope. LOL
Gets worse IMO. They should have stuck with following James Badge Dale's character. He's the guy that was on 24 season 3, btw.
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#3533167 - 03/05/12 10:24 PM Re: Movies that re-write history [Re: Vertigo1]
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Originally Posted By: Vertigo1
Originally Posted By: PanzerMeyer
I don't think there is any movie that is 100% authentic to historical fact but IMHO, these are the ones that come to mind which get very close,


1. Patton
2. Tora Tora Tora
3. Das Boot
4. Gettysburg
5. Glory
6. Gods & Generals
7. Battle of Britain
8. The Longest Day
9. Downfall


It is my understanding that Das Boot is completely fictional.


You are correct. The U-boat was real (U-96) but the crew is fictional. I like to think of Das Boot as historical fiction; it follows history so closely that is appears to have actually existed.

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