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#3528910 - 02/29/12 02:58 PM Re: Reflections on Multi-player [Re: Bandy]
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You can always play on a coop server with humans vs AI on a scripted mission.

I dont think most of what you said is true about MP. Yes you can get jumped without knowing they are there but you can also just as easily jump someone else who is not paying attention. I know a lot of people who fly just fine without trackir.
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#3529171 - 02/29/12 08:48 PM Re: Reflections on Multi-player [Re: Splice_Mainbrace]
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Registered: 07/26/10
Posts: 1256
Loc: Wishing I was in the La Cloche
Originally Posted By: Splice_Mainbrace
I have done zero MP in RoF. Not likely to, either. Im not angry or disappointed about it. It just doesnt sound like my cup of tea ...

Mainbrace, I hear you. I was 'you' not too long ago, but one morning, very early, I don't know what got into me I just tried multiplayer. I didn't get shot down for a while, but when I did, it was my fault for not paying attention to my low 6. While pissed off (mostly with myself) I learned that lesson, and moved on.

Perhaps I've always had some romantic notion that I would have survived and succeeded to be an ace in WWI. Well, that first kill (of me) put an end to that, but I got back up and persevered. I do not have all the experience in all the airplanes that some have, and maybe I'll make a fool out of myself every-now-and-then when I left-spin a Camel, but so what...

Yes, TrackIR is worth the money if you fly SP or MP, it doesn't matter. There are freeware versions too. Spend the money if you have the chance, or work to get FaceTrackNo IR running. YOU WILL NOT REGRET IT. Seriously.

OK, I have no idea how many hours I've flown in MP, I'm sure there is a statistic somewhere (there always seems to be...) but I've shot down 5 people, so I suppose I'm an online 'ace' now. Well, that doesn't mean much because the real high end stats will frighten you. What means more is that I can survive, and that took a little time to learn those skills.

If things go right I've found that many times I can join up with unknown people in small groups of 2 or 3 to forge a loose alliance and then go hunting. You don't need to be on Teamspeak, but it can help. Some people argue against TS, but it is a facilitator.

If you are challenged by the AI, then by all means keep going and having fun in career beta, or Pat's campaign. But know that playing with people is a lot of fun too, and presents its own challenges. When you start having a nagging itch, then give it a try. Just jump on a server with just a few people, and fly around keeping your eyes open. Survive first, then attempt to make a kill, but don't get down on yourself for being killed if it happens. It's OK, because you'll then be in good company.
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#3529248 - 02/29/12 11:13 PM Re: Reflections on Multi-player [Re: Splice_Mainbrace]
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Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 1004
Loc: New Orleans, LA & Sunrise, FL
Originally Posted By: Splice_Mainbrace
Ill let others show up to be a target drone for folks who dig MP big time.

Yeah, pretty much sums up the oft-repeated "advice."

"You must pay your dues as fresh meat for the leet snipers before you can earn worthiness to fly amongst those with 10,000:1 kill ratios in the MP servers. And, oh yeah, just pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and put on a happy face, but get back in the air because we leets need more noob targets."

Is that the attitude that I am supposed to aspire to?? I'm supposed to get mercilessly hammered and shot down 100 times so I can get as "good" as that and do it to others?

No thanks. Apparently definitions of 'fun' differ.

#3529306 - 03/01/12 01:33 AM Re: Reflections on Multi-player [Re: Bandy]
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Registered: 02/07/01
Posts: 2381
Loc: Gisborne, New Zealand
Hedgehog. I have finally taken the plunge into MP.

I am by no means a good RoF pilot playing with most "cheats" in SP. However in just a few games with Full Realism MP I know I am getting better with every flight.

Sure I get shot down more often the not but I've also held my own on more than one occasion. I had a great scrap against 4 or 5 Albatros scouts. The fight lasted about 5 minutes before my demise. It was the best 5 minutes of MP I think I have experienced in many years of gaming.

I have enjoyed joining up with a random team mate and flying their wing as best I can.

I have yet to experience this getting "mercilessly hammered and shot down 100 times" that you talk about.

Mate, take the plunge, you just might enjoy it smile
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