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#3625161 - 08/12/12 07:22 PM Re: Station Keeping practice [Re: EinsteinEP]
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Plenty more where that came from. I've been flying formations with THOR for years now (although these shots aren't with him).





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#3625987 - 08/14/12 03:29 AM Re: Station Keeping practice [Re: EinsteinEP]
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I have two major areas weakness with regards to formation flight.
1. I have a hard time differentiating from route and close spacing. Often I get much closer than I should.
2. I have virtually no practice with tactical forms.

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#3626274 - 08/14/12 01:34 PM Re: Station Keeping practice [Re: EinsteinEP]
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Frederf,

1. Me neither. The lack of depth perception and (in my setup, at least) perspective vision makes it uniquely challenging to maintain a consistent distance without frequent glances to Lead. Maybe that comes with experience? I'm hoping to learn.

2. Me neither. But then, I don't have much experience with real formation flying basics anyways. And by real formation flying, I mean station keeping with a sight picture, cross unders, extend trail chase, etc. - not just flying next to some other airplane.
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#3626825 - 08/15/12 09:32 AM Re: Station Keeping practice [Re: EinsteinEP]
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For 1. you need visual references on the aircraft itself, maybe Magnum can provide them. And it's not 'frequent glances at lead' in these formations ... it's 'cross-checking instruments'. You stare at lead.

Tac forms are flown a mile apart, and the whole idea there is that you can now cross-check the wingman and concentrate either on visual look-out or instruments, whichever happens to be your particular task within the formation.
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#3626973 - 08/15/12 01:02 PM Re: Station Keeping practice [Re: GrayGhost]
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Originally Posted By: GrayGhost
Tac forms are flown a mile apart, and the whole idea there is that you can now cross-check the wingman and concentrate either on visual look-out or instruments, whichever happens to be your particular task within the formation.


^^^ Interesting stuff, as always GG.

Last night in Kojori we had a 3-ship formation and it would have been best had we decided on the way in who would TGP scan and broadcast SPI/SADL, along with other tasks. In fact we could have assigned a TGP scan to three pilots as we were flying into the tri-airport area around Tbilisi. And we were too close - well I sure was - to have been able to TGP and stay in formation. But we had a blast smile

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#3627014 - 08/15/12 01:40 PM Re: Station Keeping practice [Re: EinsteinEP]
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