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#3525717 - 02/24/12 07:30 PM Re: Friday update [Re: kilosierra]
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Now about these dromedaries...Would they be the one hump variety or the two hump variety?


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#3525750 - 02/24/12 08:33 PM Re: Friday update [Re: DaveP63]
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Originally Posted By: DaveP63
Now about these dromedaries...Would they be the one hump variety or the two hump variety?


The community voted and decided on one hump. Adding the second hump would take to much time, thats desperately needed to fix the FM.
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#3525752 - 02/24/12 08:36 PM Re: Friday update [Re: FearlessFrog]
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After reading the "animal" posts....?
I'd say that CloD has hit rock bottom...

Good Post Furbs....Seems like the warden is running the asylum here. elmo


Do you mean the inmates are running the asylum here rather than warden? The warden running the asylum is actually what's meant to happen I think.

Also, apologies if the jokes are a bit too much. I understand for some it is a serious matter, and not a laughing matter.


Salute FearlessFrog...I will continue to believe, that we all want the best outcome...Thanks
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#3525841 - 02/25/12 01:22 AM Re: Friday update [Re: Avimimus]
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Originally Posted By: Avimimus
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For starters PR has always been the red-headed stepchild of MG and with Luthier at the helm it's only gotten worse so I guess they don't want to invest more than the bare minimum of time.


Interesting CsThor, we've both been around for a long time - however, my view is a little different: I thought Oleg was usually brilliant in his personal style and PR back in the post-release heyday. Things just deteriorated after 2007...


I don't think this was a company strategy but Oleg's personal style. There was no "conscious thought" behind it, it was more like an instinctual thing since Oleg put too much "blood & sweat" into it. PR-wise Maddox Games was always not particularly creative - we never got more than screenshots and more or less cryptic statements, often less than substantial ones at that. They were never comparable to what Jason does at ROF (which I find most informative and upfront).
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#3525842 - 02/25/12 01:30 AM Re: Friday update [Re: robtek]
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Originally Posted By: robtek
The "doom'n'gloom" - "glass half empty" party is even more present here, then in the 1c forum.

Sometimes it makes me sad, that those people get the same gains from the updates as the stout supporters, despite their attitude.

Imo, of course.


Ahh yes...robtek swoops in now and then with one of his "hit and run" posts that makes everyone feel all warm and fuzzy inside. It's a shame that it saddens you that opinions are allowed to be discussed, both positive and negative. Not everyone bought COD in the hopes that they would be able to drive a tank. It's kinda silly to discuss it in depth when the flight sim aspect of the game isn't up to snuff yet.

This is not the usual debate that has been done to death, this is a new issue about buying a flight sim and having it being turned into something else. It's going to be discussed, get over it...IMO
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#3525844 - 02/25/12 01:41 AM Re: Friday update [Re: csThor]
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Originally Posted By: csThor
Originally Posted By: Avimimus
Originally Posted By: csThor
For starters PR has always been the red-headed stepchild of MG and with Luthier at the helm it's only gotten worse so I guess they don't want to invest more than the bare minimum of time.


Interesting CsThor, we've both been around for a long time - however, my view is a little different: I thought Oleg was usually brilliant in his personal style and PR back in the post-release heyday. Things just deteriorated after 2007...


I don't think this was a company strategy but Oleg's personal style. There was no "conscious thought" behind it, it was more like an instinctual thing since Oleg put too much "blood & sweat" into it. PR-wise Maddox Games was always not particularly creative - we never got more than screenshots and more or less cryptic statements, often less than substantial ones at that. They were never comparable to what Jason does at ROF (which I find most informative and upfront).


Luthier definitely has a more confrontational style than Oleg had. I personally don't think thats a bad thing, although I preferred Oleg's style.

Jason bought the ROF franchise from the Russian developers and can communicate in English much better than the COD developers. Usually developments on a shoe string budget don't get into advertising, and advertising such an incomplete product would probably not be the best strategy at the moment. The original Il-2 didn't advertise either, but eventually cornered the WW2 combat flight sim market, and most of the market bought COD on reputation alone.

I can definitely see the new series start a serious advertising campaign in five to ten years, when they have developed a combined forces sim that they could market to a much larger audience, that might make the advertising costs worth while.
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#3525851 - 02/25/12 02:02 AM Re: Friday update [Re: kilosierra]
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OMG I'm in spasms LMFAO dizzy I cant breathe.. frog you kill me.


Edited by KRT_Bong (02/25/12 02:03 AM)
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#3525852 - 02/25/12 02:10 AM Re: Friday update [Re: Chivas]
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Originally Posted By: Chivas
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I can definitely see the new series start a serious advertising campaign in five to ten years, when they have developed a combined forces sim that they could market to a much larger audience, that might make the advertising costs worth while.


I think that'll be way too late, Luthier isn't so far ahead of others as he think.
Maybe ED applied the ground war on a more reasonable level? http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=81589

While I do see use for First-person-AAA, I'm not so sure about first-person-tanks.

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#3525857 - 02/25/12 02:43 AM Re: Friday update [Re: Force10]
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This is not the usual debate that has been done to death, this is a new issue about buying a flight sim and having it being turned into something else. It's going to be discussed, get over it...IMO


Turned into something else? New issue? No wonder people are soo upset. No one even researched the title they bought in the 1st place. The ground war stuff has been in the works for years. Why do some of you people think the sim is magically changing from what the initial scope was? I really wish some people would take the time and at least research the sim before pounding their chest saying it's not what they paid for. If you didn't want drivable vehicles perhaps you should have complained about them 2 years ago, or even better, maybe you could've complained about it when you saw in the controls section was an area dedicated to just for vehicles. I mean, here's your sign lol.

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#3525862 - 02/25/12 03:27 AM Re: Friday update [Re: theOden]
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Originally Posted By: theOden
Originally Posted By: Chivas
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I can definitely see the new series start a serious advertising campaign in five to ten years, when they have developed a combined forces sim that they could market to a much larger audience, that might make the advertising costs worth while.


I think that'll be way too late, Luthier isn't so far ahead of others as he think.
Maybe ED applied the ground war on a more reasonable level? http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=81589

While I do see use for First-person-AAA, I'm not so sure about first-person-tanks.


That is a modern warfare combined forces sim which isn't the market that the COD developer is interested in, or that most WW2 simmers are interested in. Time will tell if a combined forces sim would work on the new IL-2 engine, the maps and terrain will be decent and large, but it depends on the ability of the game engine to provide the features that would attract WW2 tankers.
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