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#3526884 - 02/27/12 03:29 AM Re: Poll - Video AARs or Traditional AARs? (Vote in poll at bottom of post) [Re: Force10]
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Originally Posted By: Force10
I really enjoy pics with comments and text AAR's. You can read those at your own pace and really take a close look at the pic and study the details. Many AAR's in the past have cracked me up with a pic and a humurous caption above it. Sometimes youtube is busy or throttling and waiting for the buffer as the video pauses like 10 times is frustrating. It's at the point now when I click on an AAR post and see a video, I just skip it. My 2 cents.


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#3526953 - 02/27/12 07:38 AM Re: Poll - Video AARs or Traditional AARs? (Vote in poll at bottom of post) [Re: komemiute]
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I vote for the text AAR.

Exactly the same reasons already posted.

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#3526981 - 02/27/12 08:41 AM Re: Poll - Video AARs or Traditional AARs? (Vote in poll at bottom of post) [Re: BeachAV8R]
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Although the video AAR is flashy, I get more out of reading the text. My main goal when reading an AAR is to learn something that I didn't know before: a different way to approach the target, attack runs, manoeuvres, whatever. Video AAR's make that problematic - unless you want (or can) spend a ton of time in the editing room cutting in external shots with graphic overlays. And with the track replay issues I have been hearing of (just getting back into the sim thing) that's going to double the work.

I do see part of the problem though: I think that video AAR's might be able to draw in new players - and that's something that is more important for the survival of the 'hardcore' flight sim hobby. So, with reluctant fingers I am going to click on the video AAR choice - knowing that I can still discuss the flight stuff with the experts here :-)

One caveat: it's more important that we have some AARs rather than none, so whichever is less work, in the end, may translate into more AARs over the long haul.

One request: if you do go the AAR route, I would appreciate a quick article on how you pull them together after the first couple. Might help some of us community members out who might like to do the same.


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#3526990 - 02/27/12 08:59 AM Re: Poll - Video AARs or Traditional AARs? (Vote in poll at bottom of post) [Re: Force10]
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Originally Posted By: Force10
I really enjoy pics with comments and text AAR's. You can read those at your own pace and really take a close look at the pic and study the details. Many AAR's in the past have cracked me up with a pic and a humurous caption above it. Sometimes youtube is busy or throttling and waiting for the buffer as the video pauses like 10 times is frustrating. It's at the point now when I click on an AAR post and see a video, I just skip it. My 2 cents.


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I appreciate the work put into a good video but I by far prefer a written AAR.
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#3527005 - 02/27/12 09:25 AM Re: Poll - Video AARs or Traditional AARs? (Vote in poll at bottom of post) [Re: BeachAV8R]
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Screenshots and text is the way that I like it. It gives me time to digest the events in the AAR as I see fit.

Thanks!

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#3527110 - 02/27/12 10:50 AM Re: Poll - Video AARs or Traditional AARs? (Vote in poll at bottom of post) [Re: BeachAV8R]
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Written AAR, by the reason already shown by the others.
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#3527140 - 02/27/12 11:33 AM Re: Poll - Video AARs or Traditional AARs? (Vote in poll at bottom of post) [Re: BeachAV8R]
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I just got Fraps and am learning to use it while building my first A-10C missions. (Don't assign Caps Lock to the Video Capture or text chat will look like yelling while recording.)

I like that it can take screenies every x seconds. Last night I watched a few of the Fraps videos I chanced to make over the weekend, and:
The videos take a long time to review
They have all kinds of head movement that I would not want in the final version
How to edit a bunch of videos to make a good one? Seems like a lot of time there.
Plus, I'd want to add music, text overlay and maybe commentary. Quite a lot of work there.

Written AAR with screenshots is straightforward, and the post can be edited easily.

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#3527204 - 02/27/12 01:07 PM Re: Poll - Video AARs or Traditional AARs? (Vote in poll at bottom of post) [Re: BeachAV8R]
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The *biggest* obstacle to video AARs is the terrible track replay system in DCS. The tracks almost always screw up once you start messing around with time accel or changing the viewpoint. Which makes them essentially useless.
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#3527270 - 02/27/12 02:37 PM Re: Poll - Video AARs or Traditional AARs? (Vote in poll at bottom of post) [Re: BeachAV8R]
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Well then, here is a suggestion:

It may be selfish of me but I would like both YouTube video and what you have been doing with text and edited screenshots.

Post a slightly edited video of a track to YouTube and continue with screenshots here.

I do realize that it's more work for you but a video would increase the impact of your great AARs.

Thanks.
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#3527275 - 02/27/12 02:45 PM Re: Poll - Video AARs or Traditional AARs? (Vote in poll at bottom of post) [Re: Nift]
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Originally Posted By: Nift
Post a slightly edited video of a track to YouTube and continue with screenshots here.


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That is appearing to be the best solution...LOL.. Had the poll been skewed 80/20 or something I could have worked with that..but it is pretty close to being split down the middle. So I might just have to reduce the frequency of the AARs and make them hybrids..

A bit more work, but it is a hobby I enjoy.
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