SAS already has their version of an AI mod. All the blind spots without the rolling and weaving.

Dave, that is correct, but the view of some in SAS, which I think is correct, is that the TD AI mod is superior to Cert's, and they may replace the latter with the TD ai in their ai package. Great work, and something to look forward to.

Cert was no FM guy or even a programmer. He was just a modder who kind of fell into a good thing. He knew how to edit the AI settings and just changed some of the basic numbers. However, since he was the only one doing such things, he became an instant folk hero.

He was soon inundated with so many requests to change even more of the AI, he must have realized he was in over his head. During this time his forum appearances declined until he simply disappeared from the scene. To me, it seemed like he really did not possess the necessary knowledge of the code to make any more relevant changes. In reality, the Cert AI was really not much different than Oleg's AI. It reduced the hated barrel-rolling and a couple of other small issues.

The 4.11 patch is a major overhaul of the AI. It's like nothing else that's come before it. If you spend any time at all with the new AI, this is immediately apparent.

So yes, the 4.11 AI is easily superior to any AI mod out there right now.

Sure, it has some quirks, like the 'checking 6' maneuvers. However, these issues may be addressed in future updates.

Aviar

K

Definitely not true.



That is perfectly consistent with what I wrote. Just because you asked for a feature that TD eventually put in, doesn't mean that the majority of people asked for it too, which was my point. TD definitely listens, but they also come up with a lot of things that most people never even notice.



Sure, I agree having a long iterative development cycle can be annoying. However, I think you'll find that some people will be much more indignant about inaccuracies if they detrimentally affect the performance of their favourite plane, as compared to inaccuracies that boost the performance of their favourite plane. It's these kinds of biased over-reactions that tend to turn developers away from user forums. Rest assured, the few outspoken individuals in this thread do not represent all US BnZ aircraft pilots, and not all of those pilots are as vocal in their displeasure at 4.11 as some are here.

Cheers,
4S

Well, if you look at their forum, it indeed appears that they will be the first ones out of the gate with a full 4.11 mod.

I didn't get any message . What happened?

GB

Excellent news re HSFX and 4.11. Concur re the 4.11 AI. Very good indeed.

While I agree that is true, I think in this instance a case can be made that the new FM/Engine model is at best a sideways and probably a backwards move in terms of realistically representing several of the US and German fighters specifically. Something just seems a bit off in the way TD implemented things.

That's good to know Redwoldf2. I haven't been following the forums too closely, so I likely missed more recent posts.