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#3536064 - 03/10/12 12:01 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
[Re: Hpasp]
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Now tried Vega. Target flew between 150 and 200 meters... Very weird... Asuluk training ground.
Practice target:
LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk
S-200VE Vega-E
00:00, Practice target LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk launched
58:49, Missile launched from launcher-1
Target distance: 43km
Target azimuth: 71°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: 287m/s (1 Mach)
Target altitude: 181m
RPC mode: FKM - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 29,1dB
58:56, Missile launched from launcher-2
Target distance: 41km
Target azimuth: 71°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: 287m/s (1 Mach)
Target altitude: 195m
RPC mode: FKM - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 29,7dB
59:04, Missile launched from launcher-3
Target distance: 39km
Target azimuth: 71°
Target elevation: 0°
Target angular speed: 294m/s (1 Mach)
Target altitude: 143m
RPC mode: FKM - Narrow Beam
GSN mode: Acquire target before launch
Received signal strength: 30,2dB
59:42, Missile exploded
Practice target LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 16m)
Total, SNR On Air Time: 2min 32sec
Edited by Lonewolf357 (03/11/12 01:10 AM)
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#3536069 - 03/10/12 12:08 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
[Re: Hpasp]
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Now tried the Krug (no kill achieved): Asuluk training ground.
Practice target:
LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk
2K11 KRUG-M1
00:00, Practice target LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk launched
06:31, Missile launched
Target distance: 23km
Target azimuth: 80°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 156m
Missile guidance method: TT (Three Point)
06:57, Missile exploded
Practice target LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk hit by SAM. (miss distance: 224m)
07:07, Missile launched
Target distance: 14km
Target azimuth: 82°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 104m
Missile guidance method: TT (Three Point)
Total, SNR On Air Time: 1min 7sec
Edited by Lonewolf357 (03/11/12 01:11 AM)
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#3536074 - 03/10/12 12:13 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
[Re: Hpasp]
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And the last one - Dvina: Asuluk training ground.
Practice target:
LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk
SA-75M Dvina
00:00, Practice target LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk launched
12:10, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 22km
Target azimuth: 92°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 171m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
12:17, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 20km
Target azimuth: 95°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 101m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
12:24, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 19km
Target azimuth: 98°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 103m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
12:39, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Practice target LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 81m)
12:44, Missile exploded on Channel-2
Practice target LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 55m)
Total, SNR On Air Time: 2min 18sec P. S.: Also, it is interesting to note, that Dvina works very well with proximity fuse against targets at low altitudes. Isn't it had a lower limit of 300 meters, and lower targets had to be engaged in "K3" mode? Interesting...
Edited by Lonewolf357 (03/11/12 01:11 AM)
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#3536075 - 03/10/12 12:21 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
[Re: Hpasp]
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Dvina against Tornado simulator (fragment): 19:08, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 32km
Target azimuth: 74°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 251m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
19:14, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 28km
Target azimuth: 73°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 267m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
19:21, V-750VMU 11DMU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 24km
Target azimuth: 71°
Target elevation: 0°
Target altitude: 284m
SNR mode: 55km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
Edited by Lonewolf357 (03/11/12 01:09 AM)
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#3536078 - 03/10/12 12:30 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
[Re: Hpasp]
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Posts: 201
Loc: you would look here!
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Did anyone see my post 
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#3536079 - 03/10/12 12:33 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
[Re: Hpasp]
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Now tried Volkhov again against a variety of low-flying targets. Again, AAR shows height between 1,5 and 2 km for all of them. It appears that something is wrong with Volkhov's depiction of target height in AAR: tragets are actually flying so low that they are touching the ground clutter, SAM's height indicator shows <1 km, but AAR still says 1,5-2 km range. P. S.: sorry for big posts, couldn't find the "spoiler" button until now...
Asuluk training ground.
Practice target:
LA-17MV [Program-2] simulating A-6 Intruder
LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk
RM-217 Zvezda [program-1] simulating Tornado
S-75M3 Volkhov
00:00, Practice target LA-17MV [Program-2] simulating A-6 Intruder launched
00:00, Practice target LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk launched
00:30, Practice target RM-217 Zvezda [program-1] simulating Tornado launched
25:49, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 38km
Target azimuth: 92°
Target elevation: 3°
Target altitude: 2,2km
SNR mode: Wide Beam H<1 - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
25:56, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 35km
Target azimuth: 92°
Target elevation: 3°
Target altitude: 2km
SNR mode: Wide Beam H<1 - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
26:23, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Practice target RM-217 Zvezda [program-1] simulating Tornado killed by SAM. (miss distance: 4m)
26:27, Missile exploded on Channel-2
Practice target RM-217 Zvezda [program-1] simulating Tornado killed by SAM. (miss distance: 4m)
26:42, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 34km
Target azimuth: 68°
Target elevation: 3°
Target altitude: 1,9km
SNR mode: Wide Beam H<1 - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
26:48, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 32km
Target azimuth: 67°
Target elevation: 3°
Target altitude: 1,8km
SNR mode: Wide Beam H<1 - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
27:23, Missile exploded on Channel-3
Practice target LA-17MV [Program-2] simulating A-6 Intruder killed by SAM. (miss distance: 1m)
27:28, Missile exploded on Channel-1
Practice target LA-17MV [Program-2] simulating A-6 Intruder hit by SAM. (miss distance: 201m)
27:43, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 30km
Target azimuth: 64°
Target elevation: 3°
Target altitude: 1,7km
SNR mode: Wide Beam H<1 - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
27:49, V-759 5Ya23 Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 29km
Target azimuth: 63°
Target elevation: 3°
Target altitude: 1,7km
SNR mode: Wide Beam H<1 - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
28:20, Missile exploded on Channel-2
Practice target LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 17m)
28:25, Missile exploded on Channel-3
Practice target LA-17K simulating BGM-109 Tomahawk killed by SAM. (miss distance: 14m)
Total, SNR On Air Time: 3min 12sec
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#3536083 - 03/10/12 12:39 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
[Re: vintorez]
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Scroll also down to points describing some features of training and exercises - at some points I think that US did not treat SAMs so seriously as Eastern Bloc did...
SAM is a weapon of defense. Most weapon programs of USA/NATO are for offensive/atacking the enemy, not defending the homeland...
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#3536086 - 03/10/12 12:42 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
[Re: Hpasp]
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Can't resist the desire to post this AAR:
S-75M3 Volkhov
44:51, B-52D Snow-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
44:51, B-52D Slate-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
44:51, B-52D Rust-01 bombed SAM Site VN-549.
44:51, B-52D Maroon-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
44:51, B-52D Amber-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
44:51, B-52D Black-01 bombed Kinh No Complex.
44:51, B-52D Ruby-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
44:51, B-52D Rainbow-01 bombed Kinh No Complex.
44:51, B-52D Pink-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
44:51, B-52D White-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
44:51, B-52D Ivory-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
44:57, B-52D Snow-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
44:57, B-52D Slate-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
44:57, B-52D Rust-02 bombed SAM Site VN-549.
44:57, B-52D Maroon-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
44:57, B-52D Amber-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
44:57, B-52D Black-02 bombed Kinh No Complex.
44:57, B-52D Ruby-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
44:57, B-52D Rainbow-02 bombed Kinh No Complex.
44:57, B-52D Pink-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
44:57, B-52D White-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
44:57, B-52D Ivory-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
45:21, B-52D Snow-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
45:21, B-52D Slate-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
45:21, B-52D Maroon-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
45:21, B-52D Amber-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
45:21, B-52D Black-03 bombed Kinh No Complex.
45:21, B-52D Ruby-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
45:21, B-52D Rainbow-03 bombed Kinh No Complex.
45:21, B-52D Pink-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
45:21, B-52D White-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
45:21, B-52D Ivory-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
45:37, B-52D Cream-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
45:42, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 19km
Target azimuth: 187°
Target elevation: 41°
Target altitude: 12,7km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
45:46, B-52D Cream-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
46:06, B-52D Cream-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
46:16, Missile exploded on Channel-3
B-52D Pink-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 22m)
46:44, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 19km
Target azimuth: 43°
Target elevation: 37°
Target altitude: 11,6km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
46:47, B-52D Indigo-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
46:49, B-52D Indigo-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
46:52, B-52D Yellow-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
46:53, B-52D Indigo-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
46:54, B-52D Yellow-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
46:58, B-52D Yellow-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
47:21, B-52D Lilac-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
47:25, B-52D Lilac-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
47:25, B-52D Silver-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
47:27, B-52D Silver-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
47:27, Missile exploded on Channel-1
[b]B-52D Black-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 9m)[/b]
47:31, B-52D Silver-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
47:44, B-52D Lilac-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
47:56, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 18km
Target azimuth: 186°
Target elevation: 42°
Target altitude: 12,4km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
48:29, Missile exploded on Channel-2
B-52D White-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 23m)
48:40, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 17km
Target azimuth: 154°
Target elevation: 44°
Target altitude: 12,2km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
49:18, Missile exploded on Channel-1
B-52D White-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 17m)
49:31, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 19km
Target azimuth: 151°
Target elevation: 42°
Target altitude: 12,7km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
49:39, B-52D Brown-01 bombed Kinh No Complex.
49:40, B-52D Brown-02 bombed Kinh No Complex.
49:44, B-52D Brown-03 bombed Kinh No Complex.
49:52, B-52D Ebony-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
49:55, B-52D Ebony-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
49:58, B-52D Ebony-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
50:09, B-52D Red-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
50:10, Missile exploded on Channel-2
B-52D White-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 17m)
50:11, B-52D Red-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
50:15, B-52D Red-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
50:34, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 17km
Target azimuth: 197°
Target elevation: 46°
Target altitude: 12,6km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
51:06, Missile exploded on Channel-3
B-52D Ivory-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 22m)
51:17, B-52D Pinto-02 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
51:20, B-52D Pinto-01 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
51:33, B-52D Pinto-03 bombed Hanoi Railroad Yard.
52:19, B-52D Ash-01 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
52:20, B-52D Ash-02 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
52:24, B-52D Ash-03 bombed Duc Noi Railroad.
52:41, B-52D Smoke-01 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
52:42, B-52D Smoke-02 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
52:54, B-52D Gold-03 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
52:54, B-52D Smoke-03 bombed Giap Nhi Railroad.
53:00, B-52D Gold-02 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
53:09, B-52D Gold-01 bombed Van Dien Vehicle Yard.
53:30, B-52D Cobalt-02 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
53:44, B-52D Cobalt-01 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
53:47, B-52D Cobalt-03 bombed Hanoi Petroleum Storage.
54:44, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 18km
Target azimuth: 56°
Target elevation: 38°
Target altitude: 11,4km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
55:26, Missile exploded on Channel-1
B-52D Indigo-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 8m)
56:02, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 16km
Target azimuth: 292°
Target elevation: 35°
Target altitude: 9,5km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
56:41, Missile exploded on Channel-2
B-52D Lilac-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 8m)
57:05, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 15km
Target azimuth: 33°
Target elevation: 48°
Target altitude: 11,6km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
57:41, Missile exploded on Channel-3
B-52D Brown-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 13m)
57:54, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 19km
Target azimuth: 45°
Target elevation: 37°
Target altitude: 11,7km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
58:38, Missile exploded on Channel-1
B-52D Brown-03 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 9m)
59:01, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-2
Target distance: 19km
Target azimuth: 193°
Target elevation: 39°
Target altitude: 12,4km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
59:35, Missile exploded on Channel-2
B-52D Smoke-01 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 23m)
59:46, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-3
Target distance: 18km
Target azimuth: 169°
Target elevation: 43°
Target altitude: 12,6km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
00:21, Missile exploded on Channel-3
B-52D Smoke-02 killed by SAM. (miss distance: 21m)
05:29, V-755 20DSU Missile launched on Channel-1
Target distance: 17km
Target azimuth: 22°
Target elevation: 20°
Target altitude: 5,9km
SNR mode: LORO - 75km
Missile guidance method: T/T (Three Point)
06:00, Missile exploded on Channel-1
F-4 number 1 of pair-1 blocking Noi Bai airfield killed by SAM. (miss distance: 27m)
Total, SNR On Air Time: 11min 25sec
13 targets with 13 missiles. Volkhov. December 26th.
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#3536088 - 03/10/12 12:45 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
[Re: piston79]
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Scroll also down to points describing some features of training and exercises - at some points I think that US did not treat SAMs so seriously as Eastern Bloc did...
SAM is a weapon of defense. Most weapon programs of USA/NATO are for offensive/atacking the enemy, not defending the homeland... USA/NATO always relied more on fighters, rather than SAMs... In this field, they always enjoyed qualitative superiority.
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#3536092 - 03/10/12 12:53 PM
Re: SAM Simulator
[Re: Lonewolf357]
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You can edit your posts, and put some spoilers  Congratulation for the perfect shooting! Now you are on the top of SAC "Most wanted" list... 
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