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#3523351 - 02/21/12 01:42 PM "Accu-Feel" by A2A  
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A2A link and video

Just saw this, looks to be verrrry interesting!


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Very cool! immediate buy for me, just thinking of all the great non accusim planes I have in the virtual hangar that will benefit from this.


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That looks like one of the best addons I've ever seen for FSX. I wonder what the price will be?


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#3523602 - 02/21/12 07:53 PM Re: "Accu-Feel" by A2A [Re: malibu43]  
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Originally Posted By: malibu43
That looks like one of the best addons I've ever seen for FSX. I wonder what the price will be?

I hope it won't be higher than 30$


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#3523631 - 02/21/12 08:44 PM Re: "Accu-Feel" by A2A [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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Their other Accusim addons range from $19.99 (Cub) to $29.99 (B17/B377) so seems to be related to the complexity/work required to model it, so I would expect something similar in that range.


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#3523644 - 02/21/12 09:03 PM Re: "Accu-Feel" by A2A [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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Not sure how I would feel if I had bought two ore more of the aircraft specific Accu-sim packages for $20-$30, and then they offered a universal package for $20 - $30.

Of course I haven't bought any of their stuff before, so it's a non-issue for me!

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Originally Posted By: malibu43
Not sure how I would feel if I had bought two ore more of the aircraft specific Accu-sim packages for $20-$30, and then they offered a universal package for $20 - $30.
It seems to me that this universal package includes some of the Accu-sim features, such as the sound dynamics, but it won't add the advanced systems modelling to your default C172, for example. Plenty of reasons still to get the aircraft specific addons then smile


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Yeah the real accusim packages have a bunch of other added stuff specific to the particular airplane, especially the super realistic engine/hydraulic/electrical systems and also wear/damage modeling.

So while this brings a lot of welcome accusim stuff to other non-accusim aircraft there is no concern of this overlapping the full products, I still love my accusim P40 and could only wish there were a ton of A2A accusim GA aircraft I could buy, right now the Katana4X and RealAir Dukes are the only other things close to it.

This will definitely be a welcome thing.


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#3523762 - 02/21/12 11:32 PM Re: "Accu-Feel" by A2A [Re: malibu43]  
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Originally Posted By: malibu43
Not sure how I would feel if I had bought two ore more of the aircraft specific Accu-sim packages for $20-$30, and then they offered a universal package for $20 - $30.

Of course I haven't bought any of their stuff before, so it's a non-issue for me!


AFAIK, this is nothing like a dedicated Accusim aircraft, more about better sounds/physics, but nothing like the extremely detailed systems modeling in true Accusim planes.

If you fly FSX with any kind of regularity, you really owe it to yourself to try out a dedicated Accusim plane. Spit is my personal favorite, but the P-40 and J-3 are right up there, also.


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#3523836 - 02/22/12 01:42 AM Re: "Accu-Feel" by A2A [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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LOL... I'm sure the good folks at A2A will be happy to do just that. biggrin

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Originally Posted By: WWSandMan
LOL... I'm sure the good folks at A2A will be happy to do just that. biggrin


hehe I'm not much into warbirds but if A2A did GA airplanes (besides the slow cub), then my credit card would be in deep trouble.

I pretty much fly their P40 now as a GA and bush plane and it's a blast, this Accu-Feel pack will be as close as we can get for GA planes for now... I predict they will sell many copies, let's just hope it convinces them to do a full GA plane, the SuperCub would be a logical first one.


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LOL... I'm sure the good folks at A2A will be happy to do just that. biggrin


You'd think, but there's not even a pre-order link...

Also, home come every time a bunch of simhqers drive around in circles it makes headlines on this site (I kid because I love iRacing :)), but when awesome stuff like this happens it's only in the civ forum?

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Originally Posted By: AggressorBLUE

Also, home come every time a bunch of simhqers drive around in circles it makes headlines on this site (I kid because I love iRacing :)), but when awesome stuff like this happens it's only in the civ forum?


Heheh I'm guessing because someone does the hard work of capturing video, then editing and taking screenshots and then submitting an AAR article for publishing :-)

Not meaning to be snarky, just that I thought about doing the same for FSX flights, but then realized I barely have enough time to fly nevermind those other additional things, but thinking about it helps me value and appreciate all the extra work these SimHQ folks put into it, maybe once my daughters get older and work requires less oncall I'll tackle it...


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This add-on would make for a rather interesting review project for SimHQ's front page... Headline: "Breathing new life into FSX: A2A Simulations' 'Accu-Feel' Reviewed". I'm sure some of the premier FS publications will be all over this ("PC Pilot", etc.)

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Anyone from SimHQ is welcome to review our products. PM me or better yet fire us an email off and we can arrange review copies.

Re: Accu-Feel
We have opened a new Forum on our site and started an FAQ thread off;

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=87


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Hello guys and girls,

all released and on the store; http://www.a2asimulations.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=3&products_id=49

Support and development forums; http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=88

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Thanks for the heads-up bought and downloading now.


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$15 !?!? Nice!

I will pick this up after I get back from vacation!

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You know, they really ought to have released it on the 29th popcorn

Just about to start my first flight with it!


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Couldn't wait. I ordered it.

I'm really looking forward to trying it out. The only flight sim I've played that really started to capture the feeling of flying a small, single engine plane is IL-2. It's the way the controls get mushy at slow speeds and the visual/audio buffetting that precedes a stall. I can tell in IL-2 when my wheels touch and if I've bounced or settled onto the runway.

REALLY looking forward to giving this a try in FSX!

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#3525650 - 02/24/12 10:58 PM Re: "Accu-Feel" by A2A [Re: malibu43]  
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Originally Posted By: malibu43
It's the way the controls get mushy at slow speeds and the visual/audio buffetting that precedes a stall. I can tell in IL-2 when my wheels touch and if I've bounced or settled onto the runway.

I only did a quick flight with the Baron and Cessna (I don't own any addon aircraft blush), and Accufeel makes a big difference in precisely those situations that you mention. The sound feedback you get while taxiing is also very much improved. I don't think Accufeel influences the aircraft's stall characteristics themselves, it just adds the clues right before you enter the stall.

For best results, you may want to combine it with an addon that inserts head movement feedback, such as Ezdok.

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Purchased and will be trying out soon. Thanks, Lewis!

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If you guys have any ideas on things you would like added or want to see what we already plan to add once the initial release dust settles head over to our feel development forums here;

http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=90

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Will do. Thanks! biggrin

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Got my Accu-Feel and it really does add to the sim. It's great how the seemingly small visual/audio cues make the default aircraft come alive.

I'm keen to see how this develops.

Something I'm wondering about tyre (tire if you must) screech. With my landing technique I get the occasional bounce. I'm not sure if the subsequent wheel touchdowns should cause a screech since the wheels would be spinning... Either no screech or a lower pitch?

Don't do much RL flying so I'm not too sure.

Anyway, I don't think any sim pilot would regret this addon. Price is good too. And they're going to add helos...

Cheers!

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Very few seem to be having any issues and most issues seem to be system or FSX issues, which is of course great. Nevertheless just in case we put together a little FAQ with handy links to things like alternate dx installers and the all important sim-connect repair for FSX.

Troubleshooting FAQ; http://a2asimulations.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=89&t=28627

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Just purchased after work today, and test flew it with the Carenado A36 Bonanza out of Friday Harbor.

All I can say, is that this has transformed FSX for me.......the additional motions etc just make the sim so much more realistic.
I tip my cap to everybody involved in this project, well done.

Looking forward to trying it with a 737 etc, but been reading that some more appropriate sounds for jets might be created?
Either way, love the purchase, has transformed my sim for me.

Would recommend to all.

Andrew.

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hehe I'm not much into warbirds but if A2A did GA airplanes (besides the slow cub), then my credit card would be in deep trouble.

I pretty much fly their P40 now as a GA and bush plane and it's a blast, this Accu-Feel pack will be as close as we can get for GA planes for now... I predict they will sell many copies, let's just hope it convinces them to do a full GA plane, the SuperCub would be a logical first one.


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Sorry, it's really a question. I'm not criticizing A2A or anyone. Is this addon only enhances fsx sound effects? I tried it with IRIS T-6A, Dino's F-14D and T-45C, CS C-130, Aerosoft Bronco X, and stock Cub. No change whatsoever for the OV-10 (though probably because engines sound is so loud), mild sound enhancement for T-6A and C-130, and a significant sound enhancement for all of Dino's planes and the stock Cub. However, other than some jolts when taxiing, I noticed no enhancements physics wise. Tried to make them stall, overspeed, high-G turns, there were virtually no vibration or buffets. Do we have to have FFB joystick to feel it? I'm satisfied enough with the sounds, but since some people say Accu-feel "transformed their experience", I did expect something more than sound effect enhancements and a view random jolts during taxi.


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Try picking something that doesn't have built-in stall or overspeed effects, then get into level flight and cut the throttle and keep attitude until it stalls, you should experience a stall effect with shaking and altitude drop.

Also you should see an effect when you go overspeed, though I can't recall if it does any shaking or not.

Both of those are easy to test and repeat in the same flight enabling and disabling Accu-Feel, if you don't see any difference then maybe it is not working correctly for you?


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Ok, tried more stock and 3rd party planes with Accufeel. I think not every addon work well with it. The results are different from plane to plane. So far, only FSX Acceleration F/A-18 works as I expected.


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Yep for me it differs from plane to plane, and I found one or two where I preferred to tune down the stall or overspeed effect because the airplane has a good one builtin (Baytower RV7). Overall I really like what this addon does for some of my less modern planes (Carenado, Lionheart etc.)

You might want to check their forums to see if anyone else had the same problem, Lewis posted a link a couple of posts above.


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#3543058 - 03/22/12 02:25 AM Re: "Accu-Feel" by A2A [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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Yep. I agree. I like Accue-Feel too. I wish it was more extreme than it is.


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#3543168 - 03/22/12 11:43 AM Re: "Accu-Feel" by A2A [Re: Li'lJugs]  
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We leaned on the conservative side with Accu-Feel, as this is a global enhancement. The goal was to create a solid base, and we did accomplish this. So now, what we've done is accumulate customer comments, little improvements, and a few new, low-risk features for the next update.

Sometimes it is hard to tell if Accu-Feel is running, because it blends in with FSX. You can always hit the Q key to turn off FSX sounds, and just hear what Accu-Feel is adding, in terms of sound.

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