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#3520397 - 02/17/12 03:38 AM Any single seaters on the horizon?  
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It seems the majority of planes realeased lately and on deck are mostly 2 seaters. I have bought some but I'm not really interested in flying them.


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#3520411 - 02/17/12 04:10 AM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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#3520415 - 02/17/12 04:22 AM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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Originally Posted By: Force10
It seems the majority of planes realeased lately and on deck are mostly 2 seaters. I have bought some but I'm not really interested in flying them.


smile sorry it made me smile/laugh because it wasn't that long ago and people were asking "are we going to get any two seaters" That's in no way me having a go at you, just interesting in seeing things going full circle.


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#3520418 - 02/17/12 04:36 AM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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#3520468 - 02/17/12 08:03 AM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: SC/JG_Oesau]  
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Originally Posted By: SC/JG_Oesau
Originally Posted By: Force10
It seems the majority of planes realeased lately and on deck are mostly 2 seaters. I have bought some but I'm not really interested in flying them.


smile sorry it made me smile/laugh because it wasn't that long ago and people were asking "are we going to get any two seaters" That's in no way me having a go at you, just interesting in seeing things going full circle.


Yeah this made me smile also.


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#3520501 - 02/17/12 11:45 AM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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Originally Posted By: Force10
It seems the majority of planes realeased lately and on deck are mostly 2 seaters. I have bought some but I'm not really interested in flying them.

Well Force, you have to admit that two-seaters have been terribly under represented in RoF given their importance in WWI, so my hat goes off to 777 for working towards evening that discrepancy out.

That said, I'm sure there is room in the future for more single seaters. As always with production schedules one has to be patient. I admit it would be nice to hear of possible 'official' choices (even just what they are considering making--OR put it up for a vote! popcorn ).


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#3520509 - 02/17/12 12:08 PM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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Oh I can't see anyone denying two seaters are under-represented in RoF. Though I wish a few more early war fighters would be introduced. The Germans really need the Halberstadt DII to fill in the gaps between the Eindecker and the Albatross.

I am disappointed float planes are more of a focus than the Halb. I'm not angry or all up in arms about it, however, I REALLY doubt I am going to purchase them. I own every plane RoF has produced thus far but I see no point in float planes. Halb, Snipe, N24, Roland, Hanriot, Alb 2 seater series, Farman, 1 1/2...sure...float planes...meh.

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#3520548 - 02/17/12 01:34 PM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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Agree 100%. I feel the need to fly a Morane-Saulnier N or the Snipe... A dogfight between a E.III and a Bullet like in the good old RB3D!


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#3520567 - 02/17/12 01:52 PM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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#3520588 - 02/17/12 02:03 PM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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Wouldn't mind more two seaters if they could just tone those crackshot gunners' skills down a notch. Call me old school, but I like planes I can actually shoot down biggrin .
Used to not care for buses till I fell in love with the Brisfit, so I'll give the new types a chance, still a couple early war single-seater types would be nice to have as well. I won't be asking for them though, since the upcoming Channel map has made another prospect (by all accounts bigger and multi-crew-er than two-seaters wink ) look far more interesting and worthy, in my books at least, of the team's time and resources than more single-seaters. You know what I mean biggrin

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#3520949 - 02/17/12 08:43 PM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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Originally Posted By: Force10
It seems the majority of planes realeased lately and on deck are mostly 2 seaters. I have bought some but I'm not really interested in flying them.


Seems to me you can only fly one plane at a time - so there seems to be enough single seaters at the moment.
Second, you're missing out just letting them sit there - the Bristol is a blast.

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#3521242 - 02/18/12 02:34 AM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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In Il-2 I was predominantly a fighter guy. I flew bombers, but usually they were far from my first choice. In RoF, however, I have come to love flying the two-seaters and even the 0-400. I've got a friend that I usually fly with and that makes a big difference. It's really a lot more fun to fly mud-moving missions with others than to lone-wolf.


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#3521254 - 02/18/12 02:50 AM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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#3521344 - 02/18/12 06:09 AM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Copterdrvr]  
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Whoa...I didn't realize so many were taking this as a complaint. It was a question, nothing more. Me saying I don't fly 2 seaters much was a statement, I still buy them. It just seemed the last few were 2 seaters, and the roadmap for 2012 are 2 seater seaplanes. Maybe when they catch up the 2 seaters to satisfy that crowd, they will return to single's in 2013. It's all good whatever they put out. thumbsup


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#3521436 - 02/18/12 12:17 PM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: VonBarb.]  
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Originally Posted By: VonBarb.
Wouldn't mind more two seaters if they could just tone those crackshot gunners' skills down a notch. Call me old school, but I like planes I can actually shoot down biggrin ...


Go over to the official forum, I think this THREAD and download the AI gunner mod which makes them a little more bearable, but not a cake-walk either. If not that thread, then look around, there are other mods there such as AI pilot mod, if you don't know about them.


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#3521484 - 02/18/12 03:10 PM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Chef]  
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Oh I can't see anyone denying two seaters are under-represented in RoF. Though I wish a few more early war fighters would be introduced. The Germans really need the Halberstadt DII to fill in the gaps between the Eindecker and the Albatross.


People repeat this line as if it were obviously true. Just how long do you think the "gap" is in between the E.III and the Albatros D.I, and what constitutes a gap? Did the Albatros D.I replace the E.III in many units? Yes. For how long did the Halberstadt D.II fly on the front lines before the arrival of the Albatros, a month? Two months?

#3521497 - 02/18/12 03:37 PM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: Force10]  
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the W.12 is actually a fighter, a two seat fighter ordered by the Marine to replace the singleseatfighters like the Albatros W.4 wink
And airbattles between the Felixstowe and the Hansa-Brandenburg were very common over the Northsea. The Felix was surprisingly manouverable and the RoF one will get at last 6 Lewis guns..............


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#3521609 - 02/18/12 07:03 PM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: WileECoyote]  
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Originally Posted By: WileECoyote
Agree 100%. I feel the need to fly a Morane-Saulnier N or the Snipe... A dogfight between a E.III and a Bullet like in the good old RB3D!


Ehh... Morane L makes more sense wink

#3521619 - 02/18/12 07:18 PM Re: Any single seaters on the horizon? [Re: RoFfan]  
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People repeat this line as if it were obviously true. Just how long do you think the "gap" is in between the E.III and the Albatros D.I, and what constitutes a gap? Did the Albatros D.I replace the E.III in many units? Yes. For how long did the Halberstadt D.II fly on the front lines before the arrival of the Albatros, a month? Two months?


Well, we don't have the Albatros DI, just the DII so far, and yes I know their performance is supposed to be identical. The DI appears early August, DII ordered in August and trickled in effectively by October. Halb DII is ordered by Idflieg in March 1916 and enters service "early 1916" (best I could find on short notice). So this is 3-4 months before the Albatros becomes a factor, and the Halb DII's continue use into spring 1917. MvR flies one for a few weeks in March 1917 when his DIII is damaged. That's a good hole to fill.

During the spring-summer of 1916 the 'RoF Entente' offerings include the N11, DH2, N17 (March 1916). What Central scout do you suggest they make for early-mid 1916 if not Halb DII??? I'll consult my "Jane's Fighting Aircraft", but I know now that the early Fokker D-types were really underpowered for the time and not popular, so probably not good choices for sales either.

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Yes, 12 Halberstadt D.IIs were ordered in March 1916. When did they actually start flying? Who knows. Less than one hundred were produced in total, far less than the number of Eindeckers.

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