No, it honestly isn't easy to see at all.

We have a fantastic sim about a subject that interests very few people in this world. It is only profitable because it is run out of Moscow where wages are low. It wouldn't exist if it weren't for the dedication of the developers and the owner. They'd all be able to easily earn much more if they programmed smartphone apps or fantasy shooters.

Yet they are presenting us with a full program for the future development of the sim, an ambitious program in all respects.

It is only if you choose to have a total disconnect from economic reality and if you choose to totally disregard the dedication of the developers that you can "be disappointed". The scary thing is that quite a few people actually seem to be disappointed. I don't know what alternate reality they live in, but it must be a really amazing wonderland of free hi-fidelity sims for everybody if the reality of RoF's future development seems disappointing by comparison.

Oh yeah, and I have had enough of RoF and its stinking deceitful developers because they won't give me Me ME! the Ellehammer Triplane of 1907, which - as everybody MUST realise - is of crucial importance to the Early-war plane set.

Hi Freycinet,
I'm not so sure that Triplane could hold up against early models in ROF.
I fear even a Eindecker could make short work of it.

But I totally understand your disappointment.
I decided to abandon RoF for the lack of the MOST important feature ever.

I mean, seriously, WHERE IS THE 3D HUT where the pilots live in to be explored in 3D First Person Shooter style!

Dang! They could make SO MUCH money if they also developed the DLC with the 3D model of the naked nurse on the bed!

I mean, this simulator is obviously going nowhere.

You know, like... you know, nowhere.
Rrrrright!


(Do I have to write it?)

Funny. And I always thought people can be disappointed AND STILL support the devs by buying new addons, which is what I tend to do when the overall effort is IMO worthwhile. But then I'm an accredited moron, am I not

There are 9 levels of disappointment from "oh well" to "OMG THEY LEFT OUT THIS THING I THINK IS MOST IMPORTANT EVAR". So far, all mine in ROF has consisted of levels 1 "oh well" to 3. The AI is my level 3. Stupid deck diving. Ok, maybe it's level 4.

I think some people are way too caught up in this, though. Frankly I'd be fine with this being confined to the Western Front 100% as long as it covered the entire war with recent depth, not just the later years. So...zeppelins?



The Jedi Master

Frey, before replying in such a stupid way, read a little of history of the Piave/Adriatic Sea fronts and then come back ... without that ridiculous cheerleader dress please.

Whoa dude, chill! I didn't say I was disappointed, myself. I've pre-ordered the map and both seaplanes (a value of ~$50.00 CDN). Hansa-Brandenburgs are among my favorite CP aircraft. I just know that many people are very passionate about their favorite fronts of WWI and listening to the conversation here and in the RoF forums, I don't think the Channel was at the top of most people's wanted lists. I think from a developmental satndpoint, the channel presents a unique advantage of being a relatively low resource investment for a new area to expand RoF's gameplay and to test out the mechanics of things like the new water, ships and seaplanes that will come in handy when 777 does move to the Piave or Eastern fronts (which will happen eventually, I think). Please remember that fans of the Piave front and WWI eastern fronts have had to wait for new material since the old mods for RB3D came out back in the day. It's been a while and I can understand the frustration of having to wait so long to fly a RoF Phoenix C.I over the alps.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

I am with Jedi Master. I would have much preferred an expansion of the existing planes. I think that seaplanes are what you do when 1918, 1917,and mid-late 1916 are more solid. But that's my $.02 and not how it worked out. Oh well, maybe next time.

Yes, I will buy the seaplanes. Honestly,I am more excited about the map than I am about the seaplanes, but I will buy them anyway. I will also buy the Hannover and DH4 ... and the Zeppelin when it gets announced about a year from now .

I think you can equate ROF with Jeff Goldblum's comments in Lost World.

"Sure, at the start it's all 'oohs' and 'aahs'. Later comes the running and screaming."

Now that everyone appreciates what ROF has done for what it has, they want X, Y, and Z in there. They want it their way or it's some affront. The importance of one aspect or another to the overall war is irrelevant, it's what's important to ROF that matters.
A major component of every war is logistics, yet few flight sims bother to go beyond supply of planes and pilots, maybe to some extent particular weapons. You never have "half of squadron grounded to shortage of engine spares" or "lack of replacement gun barrels." That's because while it was important to the war, the game can work just fine without it.



The Jedi Master

While I can certainly empathize with Frey’s position – as I think he is just trying to remind everyone that we should be more thankful for what we do have, rather than being disappointed by what we don’t.

However, that said, I can also see the points of others as well, even if I can’t agree entirely with them.

Look at it this way...

Instead of coming at this with everyone’s own “selfish” point of view (as we all want specific features, and think they are most important to add next – my personal is AI improvements in both gunnery and flight skill) – try seeing this from the developer’s point of view.

How long have they been working tirelessly on Rise of Flight? Coming up on 3 years now, more if you include all the time in pre-beta and alpha stages!

After what, 28 aircraft - Churning out more aircraft has got be pretty darn boring for them these days. I mean really! Especially with the limited data they have on FMs. Would you all be happy in such a repetitive job? My guess is no. Additionally, it wouldn’t be very business savvy to keep ROF the same – and just add more aircraft – they’re constantly striving to make core improvements – as they should.

These guys are probably itching for a challenge, to try something a little different, something new. Look at all the recent scuttlebutt of going WW2 and stuff. No, I think (hope) they want to improve what they already have. Previously, they branched out into multi-engine and we got the HP 400 and the Gotha out of the deal!

Now, I think the advancement comes to water! Currently, we have wheels touching the water and wham, we make a big splash…no skipping on water surface at all. It looks like we are going to get some better physics in regards with water. And this time, we get a few float planes out of the deal.

I think, no matter which direction ROF takes in 2012, it will be UP!

It’s just one more thing to add to the fundamental physics - the core of ROF if you will – and we get some cool little baubles along the way!


It’s all in how you look at it. Just like some may see me in a cheerleader’s outfit as well.

If they get float planes working I hope they do field mods to add floats to some of the planes that had them. Although they would have to adjust the flight models to reflect the aero/weight changes.