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Meet Mamayev - The Level Designer edition of What we are up to!

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In the last few editions of the "What we are up to" blog we've gone over "RO Classic" and touched briefly on other additions coming to the game in 2012. Today we would like to let you explore what is slated to be the first new map, Mamayev!

Set on the outskirts of Stalingrad, Mamayev was a strongly contested high ground that both sides vied to maintain control over. The belief was that the side that held the hill could control all the rest of the city. The Soviets dug in with trenches, bunkers, barbed wire and mine fields before the battle began. By the end of the battle of Stalingrad, after trading sides numerous times, the hill was mostly flattened and no grass would grow on its lead poisoned ground.

Mamayev is an infantry only map featuring combat between trenches and bunkers one hundred and fifty to two hundred meters apart. It is designed to meet the needs of those looking for extended range rifle combat, truly separating the riflemen from the boys. Those skilled with the rifle and holding the high ground will be able to find their targets even further away, with the current office record stands at a 411 meter head shot delivered via sniper rifle. For players who enjoy a more up close and personal fight, they will be spending time finding their way through the twisted corridors of the bunkers built into the hill searching for those laying in ambush (or lying in said ambush themselves).




Keep in mind that this map is still hand the hands of the level design team working on how it plays, and has yet to be art passed. With the fact that what you are about to see is still a WIP (work in progress) version of the map, we are proud to reveal the first out of office shots of Mamayev!





Players will soon be able to take to the slopes of this battlefield as the RO 2 beta rolls out again.

Head to the main page to find the full size shots.

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Originally Posted by Kashash

I just hope TWI won't get malicious and add the excessive sway that was in RO1. The sway from RO1 would be perfect after sprinting but when the soldier is rested the sway should be somewhere inbetween RO1 and RO2.

Let's just summarize what we want in custom mode:

- More sway (especially after sprinting)
- Longer time to bring up the iron sight
- Less like ice-skating player movement
- No zig zagging
- No breath-control
- No second zoom (only one zoom)
- Less stamina
- Perhaps longer pause to stand up, crouch, prone when the stamina is low
- Bigger credit to MG gunners
- Historically accurate squad loadouts (approx. 1 MG, 2-3 SMG, the rest rifles for one squad)
- No prototype weapons
- No upgrading/leveling
- No frags but overall score to promote teamwork
- Native command voices by default! And ability to read them clearly like it was in RO1
- No bandaging
- Suppression effects like in DH or better

Did I miss anything?

Since this thread has now somehow become a discussion on RO Classic mode and not momentum let me answer those questions:

- More sway (especially after sprinting)
Yes, this is planned.

- Longer time to bring up the iron sight
We'll look into this. The time to bring up the iron sights was actually much longer in beta, and everyone complained about it being too slow. So we incorporated the community's feedback and made it faster.

- Less like ice-skating player movement
That is what you already have in RO2

- No zig zagging
RO Classic mode is about making the game play more like RO1. Since the player movement physics are exactly the same other than when the player is about 95% stopped, it probably won't be changed.

- No breath-control
Breath control is realistic and a key feature of the game and likely won't be removed. Sway affects from stamina, etc will be increased however.

- No second zoom (only one zoom)
Yes, this is what we are looking to implement.

- Less stamina
Yep, I was always a proponent of less stamina but I got outvoted

- Perhaps longer pause to stand up, crouch, prone when the stamina is low
We'll have to look into this one. What do other people think about this?

- Bigger credit to MG gunners
I'm not sure what you mean by this. I think the other changes made to the game may have the effect you are looking for. I personally find MGing in RO2 MUCH more effecting than in RO1 if you use them properly. The most important thing is to actually use the MG to suppress the enemy, as they have a very difficult time to shoot you when their view is bouncing about from suppression fire.

- Historically accurate squad loadouts (approx. 1 MG, 2-3 SMG, the rest rifles for one squad)
Yep, although Realism mode already has pretty accurate squad loadouts. But we will make them more RO1-like.

- No prototype weapons
Some of the "very" rare weapons won't be there. But the MKB and AVT are still planned to be there, but in more limited numbers. The STG was in RO1, and the MKB will fill that role for RO Classic. Additionally, without starting yet another flame war on the subject, no one yet has proven that the MkB wasn't there. Our burden of proof for including a weapon in Red Orchestra (for the mod, RO1, and RO2) was that someone had to prove that it WASN'T there. So for RO classic mode we'll stick with the same rules we applied to the original game.

- No upgrading/leveling
Player will still be able to get ranking and XP, and the mode will be ranked. The ranking and XP will have no effects on their weapon handling or player capabilities however. In this way new players that might like the RO Classic gameplay will be urged to try it out, without being discouraged by not gaining any experience.

- No frags but overall score to promote teamwork
RO1 had kills, so will classic mode

- Native command voices by default! And ability to read them clearly like it was in RO1
We're looking at making this an option. It will be up to the player to enable it. And I'm not sure what you mean by the ability to read them clearly.

- No bandaging
That's the current plan.

- Suppression effects like in DH or better
That is exactly what the game already has.

With all of that said all of these items are subject to change during the beta based on the feedback of the players in the beta. Additionally, these aren't the only changes being made for RO Classic.

Finally, as one of the forum members has pointed out I was using the wrong scale for my RO1 calculations. I apologize as I was doing the scale from memory (its been years since I coded in RO1) and 52.48 was a scale we used for something else. So with that said based on scale sprinting speed in RO2 is somewhat faster than in RO1. It is however based on the realistic running speed of one of the TWI employees while loaded up with equipment that is not even a trained soldier In other words, a real trained soldier could probably sprint even faster than the character in RO2 does. But RO Classic mode is not about making the game more realistic, but rather emulating the gameplay in RO1. So we'll take a look at reducing the sprinting speed by the scale from RO1.

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What we are up to - Refinements

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Today's "What we are up to" post is bringing attention to major refinements being made to Red Orchestra 2. Since the release of the game, our own experience and player feedback has shown us how many of our systems could be improved. This includes gameplay mechanics to menu interaction. Today we will be going over the Damage Model, Bandaging, Lockdown and Native Voices.

First up is the changes we are making to the damage model of players. Currently the player takes damage in several zones. When that damage adds up to 100, he dies. Limbs have limited health points while body shots have up to 100 health and critical areas (such as the head) always cause 100 damage. When that limited hp pool of a limb is depleted, the player will no longer take damage to that area.

What is changing is how the player can take that damage. In relaxed mode: When a player has lost the health in a limb, if he bandages that health will be "refilled" so that the limb can once again take damage. In realistic mode: A player will always take damage when shot in the limb, however the amount of damage per shot on a limb will still be capped.

Complementing the refinement to the damage system is an update to bandaging. Based on feedback we have received from players we are tweaking how bandaging works on realism servers. The time it takes to bandage will be doubled, thus making it a less desirable option in the middle of a shootout.

Also being improved is Lockdown. Currently Lockdown is set per objective and starts its count right away. Player feedback has let us know that they felt it could often end a map too soon. So the rules by which Lockdown comes into play are changing. Gone is the heartless timer that would tick down. It is being replace by a timer that resets everytime the attackers have initiated an objective capture in 5 minutes or have not captured an objective in the past 7. These numbers are subject to change as we gather feedback from the beta, and sever admins will also be able to tweak those numbers themselves or disable Lockdown completely.

The last item we would like to mention today is Native Voices. Players will receive an option to enable native speakers for their team. When this option is selected, a player on the German team would hear German dialog from himself and fellow players on his team. For those seeking the greatest immersion, this will be the option for them.

Coming up in the next "What we are up to - Refinement edition" we'll be talking about selectable upgrades, key bindings, the scoreboard and changes coming to the server browser. And keep in mind that any of this is subject to change and is a WIP.


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What we are up to - Refinments Part 2

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Welcome back to part 2 of the "What we are up to - Refinement" series, and make sure you check out part one (here). Today we will be continuing to discuss some of the major upcoming changes to Red Orchestra 2, including selectable upgrades, key bindings, the scoreboard and the server browser. As always, keep in mind this is a WIP and subject to change at any time during the normal course of development.

Starting with one of the top requested items from the community: being able to select what level of weapon they go into battle with from the upgrades they have unlocked. The design for this system isn't fully finalized yet, but our early prototype consists of a toggle next to an available weapon on the class selection scrren that will allow the player to click between his unlocks.

Another top request has focused around key binds. Both the ability to separate binds out from the Interaction Key binding (Any Key) into separate keys if the user wishes. Also be made available on the binds list will be functionality for both toggle and un-toggle of prone, crouch and iron sights. With this change players will be able to more comfortably set their control scheme without having to play around with .ini files and scripts.

We are also making the scoreboard less cluttered with information and easier to use by both taking away and adding to it. What this means to the user is when he looks at the scoreboard, the only highlighted name he will see is his own. Players have also reported that in some cases depending on the players score, the player count of the server, and the players resolution, they might not show on the scoreboard before it is cut off. So additional functionality is being added so that the player will always show as the last line on the scoreboard if he falls below that cutoff.

The final item on today's refinement list is changes coming to the server browser. Players have made clear that they way to easily separate bots from live human players when selecting where they want to play. So what we are looking to do is add another number next to the player count to show the current amount. This will look something along the lines of Players/Server Size/ (Bot Number). In addition to that we are overhauling the information presented to the player in the lower left server info box to make sure it is both correct and useful to the player.

Now we have a few more refinements to talk about next time as we gear up for the re-opening of the RO 2 beta. In part 3 we will be covering refinements to the Squad Leader Spawn, Squad and Tank UI, Peripheral Indicators, and Enemy spotted systems.


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What We are up to - Refinements Part 3

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Welcome back to the third and final installment of "What we are up to - Refinements edition". Today we are going to cover additional refinements coming to RO 2. These include: Squad and Tank UI, Peripheral Indicators, and Enemy spotted systems. Once again we would like to remind everybody that this list is a Work in Progress, something you will see in today's post.

Starting off this week is the Squad and Tank UI system. We are adding a new feature to the tactical view that will show players, commanders and tankers who is most important to them. For players, that will be their squad. For tankers, those in their tank with them. And for commanders it will show your squad leaders. This should help facilitate team work between squads, allow tankers to berate their drivers for driving them backwards into the enemy, and provide an easier method for commanders to identify who to request artillery targets from.

Another tweak to gameplay is coming from the Peripheral Action Indicator system. Currently the indicators disappear right at the edge of the players screen, making it easy to pinpoint a general location if the players moves his view about. After the update there will be a buffer zone off the edge of the screen where the PAI will fade out in before it comes into the players view. This will overall enhance the system while keeping it useful and less prone to being exploited.

The last topic we are discussing today is the Enemy Spotted system. There are major visual changes to help the player understand what is happening. Spotted enemies will now be "marked" with a red indicator placed semi-randomly around their location (as to not pinpoint their exact location). It will also include text indicating what type of enemy was spotted in that location. Other players on the team will see this in two different ways.

1) If they are able to see the marked enemies location from their current view, they will see the same marking and indications as the spotter.
2) If the player can not currently see the marked enemy from his current view, he will receive an indicator at the edge of his screen that an enemy was spotted in the direction the enemy was marked.

These new markings will only show up when marked by players and not from the aerial recon.

That ends the major list of refinements coming in the first content update to Red Orchestra 2. We look forward to begin testing these with you and getting feedback in the RO 2 beta. We are looking at this happening as soon as NEXT WEEK (if all goes well, see definition: WIP)!


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Now there are two final things to discuss. First, we had planned to talk about changes coming to spawning on Squad Leader. This however is one of those cases where the refinements are still a Work In Progress. The design for this is still being actively worked on and is constantly being tweaked. So we hope to bring this back up at a later date. Second, we also plan to talk about tanking, and more information will be posted on that topic in the coming days. It will cover how the system works and what we will be doing to make it more clear to the player as well as potential tweaks.


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Reopening the Red Orchestra 2 Beta

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Three weeks ago we started a campaign of information dealing with upcoming (often work in progress) changes coming to Red Orchestra 2. We have covered the additions of RO Classic and Multiplayer Campaign, the new map Mamayev, and upcoming refinements to the game. This is all culminating in the reopening of the Red Orchestra 2 Beta for all players to help us test and give feedback on these changes and additions!

Below you will find the initial list of changes going into the beta:

New Content• New to the beta is Mamayev Kurgen which is a map taking place on the famously contested hill overlooking Stalingrad. This work-in-progress map features long range combat not previously seen in other RO2 levels!
Gameplay•Improved lockdown system. Lockdown now starts if the attacking team has not initiated a capture in 5 minutes or has not captured any objective in 7 minutes. There are new sound and visual indications when Lockdown has been initiated.
•Improved overtime system. Overtime has been added to territory maps. If the attackers are still actively capping an objective the round will no longer end.
•Improved spawn protection. When entering spawn protection there is a more obvious warning as well as a countdown timer similar to leaving the map boundary.
•(Work in progress) Refinements to spawn on squad leader. The UI has been improved to make it more obvious where you’ll be spawning. Additionally if you fail to spawn on your squad leader you will receive an error message, as will your squad leader.
•In realism mode shooting players in the legs/feet will slow them down for a short time
•The effects of bullet whizzes have been significantly magnified
•Refined player damage model. Now in realism mode hitzones can always take damage no matter how much damage they have already taken (before non-lethal hit zones could become invulnerable and no longer take damage). In standard mode bandaging hit zones restores the health of the hitzone, but not the player’s overall health. In this way after bandaging players will take damage on the bandaged hitzone again (before they would never take damage on that hitzone again).
•In realism mode bandaging now takes twice as long
Weapons•Improved MG weapon collision detection when deployed on cover. This is most noticeable when deployed in windows.
•The MG34 now has wider limits when deployed similar to the DP28
•The radius that players will get bullet whizzes sounds and suppression has been significantly magnified. Additionally, the volume of bullet hit impacts and bullet whizzes has been greatly increased.
UI•Split assault role in ‘Assault’ and ‘Elite Assault’ Only the elite assault role gets the MkB/AVT. The first time you play any existing assault xp will be copied/duplicated to elite assault.
•Removed mini objective overview from the hud in realism mode
•In the class select menu enemy weapon unlocks are now added to the bottom of the list instead of the top
•Fixed the player damage hud not displaying damage resulting from bleeding. Also, fixed several hit zones not displaying any damage (lower left leg, left foot, groin)
•Hitzone damage indicators now scale from Yellow (0-33% damaged), Orange (33-66% damaged), Red (Greater than 66% damaged)
•A tooltip has been added to the team select menu to show what players are currently on that team.
•Added North indicator to the minimap/compass.
•Fixed a bug where certain types of hits weren’t counting toward the accuracy stats, giving inaccurate weapon accuracy stats.
Other Changes•Optimizations to dynamic shadows
•Fixed black skybox on older NVidia cards
•Fixed camera floating above the player when killed from prone
•(WIP) Native Voices added to the Audio Options menu. You will now hear most (but not all) friendly chatter in the native language
•Changes have been made to TE-CommissarsHouse spawns to help balance the map
Known Issues•Some veteran level weapon unlocks are unlocking at raw recruit.

A section to discuss the beta is now open in the forums here. We look forward to seeing your feedback.

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Addtionally,

Currently in the beta we have:
• New Map - Mamayev
• Updated Map - CommisarsHouse - Tank resupply points have been moved, there are now new supply points near the tank spawns. Spawns for both teams have been modified to create better balance (Allies should now have an easier time early in the map and a harder time later on). There are several general bug fixes also included in the updated map.
• Several Gameplay Refinements (Many of these are WIP and not complete, some are not in yet)

The following are currently NOT in the beta.• RO Classic
• Several Gameplay Refinements (or parts of those not fully implemented)
• All Maps
• Multiplayer Campaign
• Major Performance Optmizations

We hope to update the beta once every week or every other week to introduce additional refinements, updated functionality to some of the refinements, the additional modes, bug fixing and make changes based on feedback.

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RO 2 Feb 29th Beta Update

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Maps -Various bug fixes on all maps

Commissars House (This happened in the first beta update, but this is a detailed list on what was done)•Pushed the German initial spawn back after 20 seconds
•Made all field ammo resupplies infantry only and put tank resupplies back in the initial tank spawning area
•Removed 1 tank per team (1 tank max per team)
Apartments•New and improved fixed MG locations (this will be happening to more maps in the future)
•Increased number of spawn on squad leader locations
Barracks•Increased number of spawn on squad leader locations
Fallen Fighters•Satchel obstacles now correctly glow and are showing up on the mini map
Grain Elevator•Increased spawn on squad leader distances
Pavlov's House•Satchel obstacles now correctly glow and are showing up on the mini map
•Increased spawn on squad leader distances
Red October Factory•Satchel obstacles now correctly glow and are showing up on the mini map
•Increased spawn on squad leader distances
•Correctly set North direction for the map
•Satchel Objectives can now be blown up by placing a satchel within the objective area,
not just by putting it next to some obsecure object
•Added more light to an area in the first objective that was too dark
Spartanovka•Increased spawn on squad leader distances
Station•Fixed one of the inital Allied spawns not working correctly
•Increased spawn on squad leader distances
Gameplay•Players are now invincible for 3 seconds after spawning in a spawn protected area. Other conditions such as leaving the area or firing a weapon immediately make them vulnerable again.
•Weapon should now unlock under the appropriate requirements
•The killed from location camera has been removed from realism mode.
UI•Satchel objectives are now shown as that on the minimap, tactical view, and overhead map
•Added a visual cue for player that spotted an enemy and also for teammates of that player.

•Fixed viewing servers in the in game server browser (for beta)

Known Issues•The Enemy Spotted system is being worked on and there is currently a Known bug where Arial Recon will cause spotted icons to appear on the players HUD when it should not


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March 8th Beta Update

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Mamayev
•Updated all versions of the map (AD / NEU / CD / FF).
•Terrain work.
•Cover additions and fixes.
•Moved several Countdown spawns around.
•Fixed last objective AI spawning issue in Countdown.
•Added Navmesh to all interior bunkers and dugouts.
•Moved more Squad Leader spawns into trenches and safer locations.
•Improved lighting in all underground areas.
•Added two specialized fixed machine gun bunkers to the first objective area in the Attack / Defense version.
•Fixed Firefight spawning issues.
•Additional detail work.
•Fixed recapturing spawn issue in the Neutral version.
•All destructibles should properly show up as destroyed for all players now.
•Stamina has an increased effect on sway in all modes (normal, realistic, classic)
Gameplay
•Spawn on Squad Leader has been improved significantly and should result in better locations for spawning picked
•Spawn Protection-When inside a spawn protection area when it gets enabled you will have 10 second to get out instead of 5
•Added native voice to radio confirmations when native voices are turned on
•Fixed 10 second spawn protection killing after only 6 seconds

UI
•(Work in progress) Voting menu improvements including easier to read lists and more intuitive voting.
•Added player name to all chat boxes in escape menu
•Tank icons on the overhead map and mini map are shown instead of the generic icon for teammates
•Fixed 2 spawns being auto selected in the spawn menu after spawning on squad leader for the first time
•In the team select menu player list tooltips no longer appear for empty teams
•Fixed the spawn queue timer always being 0 for the Commander in the tactical view
•Fix for the respawn timer being 0 under certain conditions in the spawn menu
•WIP - Additional work on enemy spotted system
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March 16th Beta Update

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RO Classic -
A new game mode has been added which has been modified to play more similar to the original Red Orchestra: Ostfront 41-45. Not all RO Classic functionality is complete yet, and we will be looking for community feedback on changes they would like to see made.

General Changes:•Players can still gain experience and level up, but when playing in classic mode these levels do not grant any bonuses for class or weapon.
•Role and weapon loadouts are modified to closely match Red Orchestra 1 loadouts. This means fewer MkBs, AVTs, and SMGs are available
•Interface changes - added an RO1 style compass to the HUD. No peripheral action indicators.
•Uses standard realism mode as a base, and adds additional functionality on top of that
• Most Classic mode settings have been added to webadmin and can be toggled on/off for Custom mode
•Removed spawn on squad leader
•No lockdown
•No Killcam

Weapons use historically accurate load outs and upgrades are disabled. The following weapon versions are used:•PPSH w/drum mag and select fire
•Kar98 w/bayonet
•Kar98 Sniper w/4X scope
•Mosin Nagant Sniper w/3.5X scope
•G41 Sniper w/4X Scope
•SVT40 Sniper w/3.5X scope
• MP40 with single 32 round mag
•MkB42 with bayonet (no scope)
•P38 Pistol
•C96 w/10 round mag
• MG34 w/50 round drum
•MG34 Tripod
•PTRS
•Pzb 784 (r)
•MN 9130 w/bayonet
•G41 (W) w/bayonet
•SVT40 w/bayo
•AVT40 w/bayo
•TT33
•M1895 without silencer
•DP28
•Maxim 1910
•All other weapons and equipment as normally given (binocs, satchels, smoke nades, etc)
Infantry Changes:•Stamina usage and regeneration are modified to closely match RO1 functionality
•Player movement speed has been modified to match Red Orchestra 1 player movement speed. The sprinting speed is considerably slower to closely match the speed based on RO1 maps scale.
•Sprinting is modified to closely match RO1 functionality. The player sprints at a constant speed until running out of stamina, then stops sprinting until regaining some stamina
•The FOV zoom while using focus/controlled breathing is disabled
•Movement speed penalty when shot in the legs or feet (same as new realism mode)
•The player damage model is much more hardcore to match RO1 functionality. Players take damage instantly instead of bleeding some of the damage out over time. There is no bandaging or bleeding (although slow deaths from wounds are still possible).
•Stamina has a much greater effect on weapon sway and recoil (same as new realism mode)
•The FOV zoom while using focus/controlled breathing is disabled
Weapon Changes:•Iron sight breathing and sway are greatly increased
•Weapons take longer to go into iron sights and match exactly the iron sight zoom in speed of RO1
•You cannot interrupt sprint by going into iron sights
•Weapons transitioning out of sprinting takes twice as long to more closely match RO1's sprinting transitions
•The weapon is unable to fire until the transition from sprinting is mostly complete. This more closely matches RO1 functionality and should encourage less "run and gun" play.
Non Classic Changes

Gameplay•Fixed overtime activating without contested objective
•Added new exclusive key bindings to split up the 'Interaction' key for 'Use', 'Bandage', and 'Cover'. Holding the 'Cover (Hold)' key will automatically attach to the first available cover.
•Bots no longer effect auto team balancing
UI•The server browser is now more responsive. This is especially true on routers that enforce a low number of connections.
•Fixed overhead map problem after changing roles from Commander
•Fixed text showing that both teams are attacking on ready up screen for Countdown Gumrak
•New key bindings added to the options menu (see gameplay above)
•The ammo resupply icon is now greyed out during the resupply cooldown
•Added a list of current squad members to the tactical view
•Fixed overhead player names wrapping at the edge of the screen
•Scoreboard - modified color highlighting, own player name is always visible
•Fixed enemy spotted bugs relating to tanks such as the icon appearing outside of the map boundaries.
Stability•Potential fix the game being stuck on the splash screen or having very long initial load time
Additional Changes that were in the last patch•Stamina has a greater effect on weapon sway/breathing in all game modes
•Added RO Classic mode settings to webadmin
•Cleaned up many unused/unimplemented webadmin settings that were cluttering the system.
•Added tooltips to many webadmin settings to make them easier to understand
•Added a setting to disable lockdown to webadmin
•Setup realism mode to not allow killcam


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What We are Up To - Feedback and Tweaking

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Hello everyone, welcome back to a new edition of the "What We Are Up To" series of posts. As most of you have noticed RO Classic went out in the last beta update along with even more refinements to the game, and we are not done yet. We have further upcoming refinements, Multiplayer campaign and more in store for the future. Read on to find out the details.

While there are still more refinements and changes that have not yet made it into the beta, we are watching player reaction to what is currently available with a keen eye. For those who haven't yet had a chance, grab the beta from steam and participate in the beta forums. All the current changes can be found here in the stickies, with the community discussion following up in the feedback section. Remember we are looking at all the game modes for tweaks (normal, realistic and classic), so join the discussion today! They next update will include several tweaks based off this feedback, more refinements, and most likely Multiplayer Campaign.

Those who remember the initial posts about the beta and what would be going into it know that the next/last BIG thing coming will be Multiplayer Campaign mode. This mode will allow server admins to turn their server into a grand campaign for the city of Stalingrad. When joining, each player will pick a team and head to the front. When the campaign starts (with both sides having the territories split equally between them), a team will be randomly selected to have the initiative and choose where they want to start the attack. As each battle plays out the teams will expend manpower for land, and regain some between battles depending on how much territory they control. The first team to control all territories or force the other team to expend all of its manpower will win the day.

Last, but not least in this edition of "What We Are Up To" is talking a bit about the future. The beta has be going nicely and that means we are getting much closer to getting the things in out in the main build. Depending on how fast things come together it will come out in one of two fashions. Sooner: There will be a large patch with most if not all the content. Later: Things will be rolled out in smaller (but still fairly large) chunks of content over time as things are completed, put into beta and pushed out. There are also several grand plans we are discussing (you might want to start digging into the SDK!), but we have nothing to announce just yet.

Speaking of working with the community, we have one final thing to announce today, the new Tripwire Interactive Wiki. While it is currently in a bare bones state, we will be working with the community to fill it with content. We hope for it to server as a general Knowledge Base for both players and modders for all of our titles. We'll be working on getting modding information from across the forums into the wiki over the coming days and weeks as well (unless you beat us to it!). Have a great week everyone and make sure to join the beta!


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Oh, so as long as you are happy that's fine?

It is a MODE they are adding in, not scrapping everything and just having this. This way you are happy, because you won't play this mode, and everyone else that wants to play the game as we think it should be played are happy too.

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Location: The Netherlands
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[MAP]TE-Coldsteel

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TE_Coldsteel_b3/final

Time for a last update. This update comes with an Territory and Firefight mode for the map.
And I did upload the uncooked mapfile and packages as a seperate download.

About Coldsteel:

Map is situated in an Industrial setting. Late september 1942
Attack defense. Axis have to attack a steel factory. It has 5 objectives.
The maps contains some models made by Shadowwill and Olivier Big thanks for that.



Objecive 1 Railarea



Objecive 2 Rolling hall




Objecive 3 Deathly Alley



Objecive 4 Strippinghall



Objecive 5 Storage area


Changelist and Fixes:

Fixt a wrongly compressed texure.
More rubble,detail and cover added. (less empty halls)
More mantle and climb options.
Pumped up the sunlightbrightness
Tweaked spawndistance better for Axis
Resized the last objective.

Files

As i have no clue how to make both modes use the same packages I release both modes with
their own packages.

For TE

Map name is TE_Coldsteel_b3 Map comes with 5 external packages for custom material and an INT file for the
objective names.

CookedPC

CookedServer

For FF

Mapname is FF_Coldsteel

CookedPC

CookedServer

Mapfile and Packages

Coldsteel files

Known Issues:


As known some servers have difficulties running custom maps. Spawncams and spawns won't work as supposed and artillery radios wont show for the commander role. They are narrowing doen that problem.
Server admins can contribute in this topic

Tested this local and all spawns, artillery and spawncams works as it should.

As I forgot to gave credit to people in the previous release I want to thank all people who I contacted
before this release. And off course I like to thank my wife.
Now again the only thing I really need is to play the map with humans. As I'm really doe with playing Bots.

Greets Drecks
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Week of April First Preliminary Changelog

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The following changelog is a WIP. Some of these items may not make the final list (and others may be added). This build of the game is currently in testing internally.

Currently there are also no (or few) tweaks to gameplay based on user feedback (those will be on their way a little later and are listed below the changelog).

General

•Added the ability to select a weapon upgrade in the class selection menu rather than always spawning with the highest unlocked version
•Walking up to a radio no longer forces your weapon out of ironsights
•Satchels are now easier to throw into small spaces
•Squad leaders now have their choice of sidearm in RO Classic
•Fixed cover having priority over mountable machine guns when using the 'Interaction' key
•Fixed a bug where Machine Gunners had a stuck camera when deployed in some areas. This was most prominent in Mamayev.
•Enemy spotted can no longer be used to spot enemies through walls
•Slight improvements to collision while prone (mostly in or near trenches)
•Significant performance improvements for client and server
UI

Server browser changes
•The lower left hand info box now contains more useful and reliable information about the server
•The number of bots is displayed in the server list
•RO Classic mode has been added to the server details and filters
•Fixed a problem causing some servers (random each refresh) to be missing from the list.
Addition UI Changes
•Modified the settings menu to display the proper aspect ratio adjusted FOV values for the FOV setting. Before the menu only listed the FOV values for 4:3 aspect ratio. This incorrectly led poeple to believe that the FOV was lower than it actually was in game. For example, if the FOV value in the menu was set to 70 (using the 4:3 FOV values), at a standard widescreen aspect ration of 16:9 the players in game FOV was beind adjusted to 86 degrees.
•Fixed several display problems in the in game achievements menu
•A few items on the HUD have been shifted to reduce overlapping (spawn queue, squad list)
•Double-clicking a class name will now quick select it with the default loadout
•When holding a voice chat key the HUD now shows what channel you are speaking in


Upcoming (NOT IN THE NEXT PATCH) changes to gameplay based on user feedback:

General (Applies to 2 or more game modes)

•Reducing overall machine gun recoil. We may go overboard and have to dial them back up a bit. We'll be looking for feedback on this.
•Changing sound attenuation for "hit sound" at a distance so it falls off to a much lower sound
•Balancing out focused controlled breathing sound so players hear the breathing out as well as the breathing in (to help players understand they are not holding their breath)
•Adding Classic weapon loadout option to server custom settings

Classic
•Machine guns in Classic will be getting focus (default shift) zoom at the level of the the current rifle iron sights zoom
•Change the sprinting system so that it behaves more like RO 2's default sprinting system (with the current classic max sprinting speed)


Several other items we are holding off on to see how these go (and we may be re polling on them as well).
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April 5th Beta Update

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General•Added the ability to select a weapon upgrade in the class selection menu rather than always spawning with the highest unlocked version. This change only applies to servers running normal, realism, or custom with bClassicWeaponLoadout=FALSE.
•Satchels are now easier to throw into small spaces
•Squad leaders now have their choice of sidearm in RO Classic
•Fixed cover having priority over mountable machine guns when using the 'Interaction' key
•Fixed a bug where Machine Gunners had a stuck camera when deployed in some areas. This was most prominent in Mamayev.
•Fixed weapons firing blanks after taking over a bot in Countdown
•Enemy spotted can no longer be used to spot enemies through walls
•Setting DepthOfField=False in the INI doesn't turn off other post process effects
•Slight improvements to collision while prone (mostly in or near trenches)
•Significant performance improvements for client and server

UI•(Work in Progress) Server browser changes◦Fixed a problem causing some servers (random each refresh) to be missing from the list.
◦Fixed the blank map name column

•Modified the settings menu to display the proper aspect ratio adjusted values for the FOV setting. Before the menu only listed the FOV values for 4:3 aspect ratio. This incorrectly led poeple to believe that the FOV was lower than it actually was in game. For example, if the FOV value in the menu was set to 70 (using the 4:3 FOV values), at a standard widescreen aspect ration of 16:9 the players in game FOV was beind adjusted to 86 degrees.
•A few items on the HUD have been shifted to reduce overlapping (spawn queue, squad list)
•Double-clicking a class name will now quick select it with the default loadout
•When holding a voice chat key the HUD now shows what channel you are speaking in

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What We Are Up To - Gearing Up For Release

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Welcome back to the latest installment of the What We Are Up To post. It continues to be a busy month here with many things in the works. With summer just around the corner, we are hard at work bringing updates to some of your favorite Tripwire titles. What can you expect you ask? Read on to find out. Topics include: Upcoming changes to the RO 2 beta, how the beta will be rolled out to everyone, and our future plans for RO 2.

We hope to push out two beta updates, one today and one later this week. You can find the WIP Changelog for today's update HERE. Included (but not turned on) in the latest beta builds will be Campaign mode as well as some experimental gameplay changes for the normal (relaxed realism) setting. More details can be found HERE and we will be once again looking for player feedback to these changes.

As the current RO 2 beta nears completion (system/gameplay refinements, additional modes, bug fixes and changes based on player feedback) we are looking to roll the patch out live sometime in the next few weeks. As we get closer to that date we will be continuing to make adjustments to the beta based off player feedback and finish several more refinements.

Moving forward, shortly after these changes go live we will be looking to do a free weekend. Be sure to spread the word and tell your friends that have been on the fence that this will be a great chance for them to see first hand how the game plays!

And while we've managed to update many aspects of Red Orchestra 2 through this beta we know there is more to be done. We have set our sights on the Squad and Tank systems next as well as additional UI refinements.


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WIP - April 18th Beta Patch

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Maps
•Spartanovka
Inceased spawn time for Allies by 5 seconds
Improved Axis spawn protection for their last spawn attacking the Town Hall
Gave Axis more reinforcements
Reduced Allies' artillery amounts slightly
•Station
Decreased Axis reinforcement times by 5 seconds
Increased Axis reinforcements
•Mamayev
Removed 'activated' chat box spam in Mamayev

Gameplay•Modified sprinting in RO Classic so that instead of stopping sprinting when you run out of stamina it blends down to the slow sprint speed when the player is close to exhausted (similar to regular RO2). The ability to force the player to stop sprinting can still be enabled by a server side setting if server admins wishes to have the game function exactly like RO1 sprinting
•Modified the encumbrance system so that players that spawn with MGs and Anti-tank rifles will get a bonus on carrying thier primary weapon which prevents them from spawning with heavy encumbrance effects (faster stamina use, slower sprinting, etc). If someone from a different class picks up thier dropped primary weapon, they will still have the heavy encumbrance from the weapon.
•Modified the encumbrance system so that engineer classes get a slight encumbrance bonus so they don't spawn with heavy encumbrance effects (faster stamina use, slower sprinting, etc)
•Characters should no longer pop up/down when running along trenches
•Fixed some instances of being able to 'see through' objects when viewing up close.
•Fixed a bug where server damage scaling settings were not working
•Fixed a bug where players could not take bleed damage under certain circumstances
•Fixed achievements: Marksman (Bronze/Silver/Gold), Unhatched (Bronze/SilverGold), Tracked (Bronze/Silver/Gold), Sharpshooter (Bronze/Silver/Gold), Firing Blind
Improved server performance
UI•After being shot the damage indicator is now displayed on the HUD regardless of whether tactical view is on
•Fixed HUD sorting issues with binocs
•Removed the ability to disable gameplay effecting rendering settings
•The realism setting on the server is now shown in the loading screen and scoreboard
•Joining a custom or classic server for the first time triggers a confirmation message window
•Marksman now appear properly as squad leaders on the tactical view squad list
•Fixed overlapping spawn queue text in the territory spawn menu
•Fixed inactive objectives showing as active on the minimap
•Fixed enemy spotted icon stuck on screen
•Fixed enemy spotted icon flickering on top of weapon
•Artillery selection is now more reliable. Added flashing icon to overhead map when artillery is falling


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Normal/Relaxed Realism Experiment

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Since the release of Red Orchestra 2 we have received invaluable feedback from the community. Some liked the game as it was but didn't like features X, Y and Z. We've listened and are working on refinements. Others felt that the gameplay was too different from what they were expecting from Red Orchestra 1. We've heard that as well and are introducing Classic mode into the game. Others still would like a mix of these two modes and that is why almost every change we've made will be available as a custom setting for server admins.

But we also realized that we had focused solely on the 'Hardcore' end of the player spectrum - so we are also taking the opportunity to experiment with some gameplay mechanics targeted at the less-hardcore players, which would get implemented in the 'Normal' relaxed realism mode, making the difference between 'Normal' and 'Realistic' more apparent. So, there are some new pieces in the latest Beta, specifically to test out the less-hardcore ideas:
•Addition of a crosshair
•Removal of free-aim
•Reduced player damage

Keep in mind that these changes are NOT for those who exclusively enjoy the Classic and/or Realism modes. With that in mind, we'll be looking for feedback from more casual players on the changes to Normal mode. If Normal mode isn't your thing then please give us feedback on Classic and Realism mode.

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I disagree with Fozzybear (but I really really like that name ^_^).

You know, he expressed an opinion... so I did.
Peace.

But we also realized that we had focused solely on the 'Hardcore' end of the player spectrum - so we are also taking the opportunity to experiment with some gameplay mechanics targeted at the less-hardcore players, which would get implemented in the 'Normal' relaxed realism mode, making the difference between 'Normal' and 'Realistic' more apparent. So, there are some new pieces in the latest Beta, specifically to test out the less-hardcore ideas:

Addition of a crosshair
Removal of free-aim
Reduced player damage

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April 18th Beta Patch

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Maps
•Spartanovka◦Inceased spawn time for Allies by 5 seconds
◦Improved Axis spawn protection for their last spawn attacking the Town Hall
◦Gave Axis more reinforcements
◦Reduced Allies' artillery amounts slightly

•Station◦Decreased Axis reinforcement times by 5 seconds
◦Increased Axis reinforcements

•Mamayev◦Removed 'activated' chat box spam in Mamayev


Gameplay•Modified sprinting in RO Classic so that instead of stopping sprinting when you run out of stamina it blends down to the slow sprint speed when the player is close to exhausted (similar to regular RO2). The ability to force the player to stop sprinting can still be enabled by a server side setting if server admins wishes to have the game function exactly like RO1 sprinting
•Modified the encumbrance system so that players that spawn with MGs and Anti-tank rifles will get a bonus on carrying thier primary weapon which prevents them from spawning with heavy encumbrance effects (faster stamina use, slower sprinting, etc). If someone from a different class picks up thier dropped primary weapon, they will still have the heavy encumbrance from the weapon.
•Modified the encumbrance system so that engineer classes get a slight encumbrance bonus so they don't spawn with heavy encumbrance effects (faster stamina use, slower sprinting, etc)
•Characters should no longer pop up/down when running along trenches
•Fixed some instances of being able to 'see through' objects when viewing up close.
•Fixed a bug where server damage scaling settings were not working
•Fixed a bug where players could not take bleed damage under certain circumstances
•Fixed achievements: Marksman (Bronze/Silver/Gold), Unhatched (Bronze/SilverGold), Tracked (Bronze/Silver/Gold), Sharpshooter (Bronze/Silver/Gold), Firing Blind
•Improved server performance
UI•After being shot the damage indicator is now displayed on the HUD regardless of whether tactical view is on
•Fixed HUD sorting issues with binocs
•Removed the ability to disable gameplay effecting rendering settings
•The realism setting on the server is now shown in the loading screen and scoreboard
•Joining a custom or classic server for the first time triggers a confirmation message window
•Marksman now appear properly as squad leaders on the tactical view squad list
•Fixed overlapping spawn queue text in the territory spawn menu
•Fixed inactive objectives showing as active on the minimap
•Fixed enemy spotted icon stuck on screen
•Fixed enemy spotted icon flickering on top of weapon
•Artillery selection is now more reliable. Added flashing icon to overhead map when artillery is falling


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Facebook pimping

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In a blatant ploy to get more FB likes, we are releasing a screenshot to celebrate 120. You can see it here: http://www.facebook.com/RisingStormGame

We are going to release a new screenshot of a different map or feature when we hit 240, 480, 1,000 likes and so on.

Get on there and get liking.
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April 27th Changelog

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Gameplay
•Classic
◦Added the ability for MGs to use controlled breathing zoom when deployed to balance them out against rifles in Classic mode
◦Bullet hitting player sounds are no longer exaggerated
◦Fixed a bug where sometimes weapons could zoom in in classic mode when they shouldn't be able to
•Realism
◦Can no longer use controlled breathing, or use focus zoom if under heavy suppression.
•Realism/Classic
◦When suppressed the player will now experience increased weapon breathing/sway and screen/weapon buffeting effects that scale up with the current suppression level of the player.
◦Stamina now has an increased effect on weapon breathing/sway when stamina is below 80% and above 25%
◦Can no longer fire your weapon after going to iron sights while sprinting until the weapon gets back into the firing position
•Suppression now effects the screen/weapon "buffeting" effect when bullets whiz by the player. When more suppressed the screen will buffet more when a bullet whizzes by. Additionally, suppression bonuses from player progression, proximity to a hero, or being in cover will now reduce this buffeting affect as well.
•Bipod MGs have greatly increased accuracy and much less recoil when deployed. Tripod MGs have greatly increased accuracy
•Getting a battlefield commission should no longer cause the player to miss the initial spawn. Also, players who get a battlefield commission in the second round should now have enough time to use it.
•Can no longer use the quick grenade key during the round start countdown
Gameplay Bug Fixes
•Fixed bipod and tripod MG bullets from hitting the edges of an emplacement (window, sandbag, etc...) - This fixes an issue introduced in beta
•Fixed dropped weapon pickups getting automatically picked up sometimes
•Fixed bots sliding around the floor in the ref pose in Firefight
•Fixed commander sometimes not respawning properly in Countdown
•Fixed overtime not always ending after capping an objective in Territory
•Fixed commander automatically selecting their own artillery location. It was showing in the menu as selected, but it would not work properly when trying to launch artillery.
•Fixed squad leaders overriding each other's marked artillery targets
•Fixed a way to avoid spawn protection
•Fixed the allied smoke grenade not properly blocking vision (effects AI vision, enemy spotted, and peripheral indicators)
•Fixed the Stonewall achievement
•Fixed stamina not recovering when using a fixed MG
•Fixed a bug where when using a fixed MG sometimes it would sound like your own voice was coming from behind you
UI
•Refinements to peripheral indicators making it more difficult to pin-point enemy locations
•Fixed remaining salvo text misplaced in the commander menu
•(Work in Progress) Added menu options to disable HUD Tips and/or Menu tooltips
•Fixed player names appearing outside the tooltip box in the team select menu
•Fixed some server filters being turned on (and saved) after using instant match
Audio
•Created a new system for being able to adjust the sounds of bullets hitting players. By default, for relaxed realism mode it is just like it is now, for realism mode the sounds of bullets hitting players are toned down, and for classic mode the sounds of bullets hitting players are at realistic volume levels. This setting is also adjustable for custom mode in webadmin.
•Adjusted the sound of the player breathing when in iron sights so that breathing out will more closely match the volume of breathing in (before breathing out was very quiet compared to breathing in). Also increased the volume of the iron sights breathing a little so that it is more obvious that the player is breathing. It should also now be more clear that the player is NOT holding their breath when controlled breathing is used, rather the player is breathing slowly and pausing between each breath.
•Some voice chatter was repeating itself that shouldn't be while other chatter was not repeating itself when it should be. Both issues have been fixed.
•Fixed a bug where when using a fixed MG sometimes it would sound like your own voice was coming from behind you
Performance
•More client and server performance improvements
Maps
•Mamayev Kurgan
◦Updated Lighting
•Apartments
◦Increased Allies reinforcements
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I had the no games found in the server browser and the fix was to delete client registry.blob from x:/Steam/ and MasterServers.vdf or MasterServer2.vdf (can't remember which but the info is posted in RO2 Steam forum somewhere) found in x:/Steam/config/.

You mean like MW3 which is basically MW2 with New Maps? Honestly I don't understand why it has to play like RO1 for everybody to be happy, if one likes the original, play it instead.

I will try this. As for the updates, they are taking far too long. If it takes another two months then it would've almost been a year since the game was released. And sadly the community seems to be dead already...

I do hope they make an RO3 - essentially RO2 reworked with RO1 style game play from the start as well as more content.

A very ignorant post. It is hard to play when the game is dead; that tends to happen after it has been out for many years. When the second game came out it cut the player base down, and as a result, the combined player base of RO1 + RO2 is essentially lower than RO1 had prior to RO2's release. In addition the game has aged engine wise. A lot of people are looking for an RO1 sequel that wasn't broken and played like the previous game (as one would expect from a sequel).

And as I said, RO1 style gameplay and attention to detail. That would require reworking the game considerably so it won't be like MW2 to ME3.

It should play like RO1 because it offered a fun experience. RO2, at release, was CoD style in WWII with some characteristics of RO1 left over like the damage system and nice weapon modeling. The issue is that it played like a run and gun game with tiny CQC maps which does not work well with some of those RO1 mechanics.

TWI seems to be improving the game with a Classic mode, but again, too little too late. The player base is so small that it will likely be entirely dead by the time the game is 1 year old. Which is why I would suggest releasing an RO3 with a defined gameplay style rather than foolishly trying to take on CoD/BF.

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What We Are Up To - Community Requests and Patch Timing

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Once again welcome back to another edition of "What We Are Up To". As mentioned last time, we are drawing closer to the release of the RO 2 update. The timing of the release along with what should be last set of changes to be introduced to the beta are the topics of today's post. Starting off will be the changes coming to the beta this week: Client-side hit detection and changes to Tank AI.

One of the largest community requested items has been client-side hit detection. And that is exactly what you will be getting! Admins will now have the ability to chose what network model they want for their servers. Client-side hit detection takes the network out of the equation and gives the end users a more "what you see is what you get" experience. Leading your target will be more consistent across servers that have it enabled. It will now up to Players and Admins to decide which mode is right for them.

Next up, tanks. While we are planning more updates for down the road we do have several changes that will be hitting the beta (and this update), we have been working hard to address many of the issues. Bugs have been squashed, tank "warping" has stabilized, ai changes have been made, and ease of use functionality has been implemented. We hope you will enjoy the upcoming changes listed below.

One of the first things players will notice with tanks, after the next beta update, is that they won't fire at will. The new default mode for tank AI (in human controlled tanks) is "Player Ordered AI Gunnery" mode. With this new system, Tank AI will do nothing if the human player is in a tank, unless the human player orders the AI to do something. For example, if the human player orders the AI to attack an enemy, the AI will use the hull MG and the main cannon to attack the enemy for a short time. Then after a short time the AI will stop firing.

In addition to this new default functionality the server admin can also run in several different configurations including turning off all vehicle AI gunnery, selecting full autonomous AI gunner, selecting player ordered gunnery only (the default), or individually turn off/on AI gunner for the hull mg and tank cannon. We highly recommend all admins try out the new player ordered AI gunnery system as it is a vast improvement over the original system. Players will also find that AI gunners are no longer the crack sharpshooters they previously were, and will be even worse if the tank is in motion. Opening your tank to others is now a more viable option, [TT]'s unite!

We at Tripwire would like to highlight two community members who have inspired change through their work for the community. Mekhazzio (with his anti-lag mut) and Ducky (with his TankAI mut and many others). Some of the changes listed above are a direct response to the work they have done and the community's appreciation of it.

These will be the last major additions to the beta as we lock down functionality and move into the final QA and bug fixing process. Eagle-eyed readers will have noticed that I did not mention Multiplayer Campaign (MC), and there is a reason for that. It will not be making its debut in the next patch. As things have come together since the beta began, MC has always been just out of reach for inclusion with the "next beta patch". We feel that it needs more time in testing and balancing, and more importantly, more time with community feedback! So with that in mind, we will be adding MC to the beta so that players can get in there and let us know what they feel is working, and better still, what needs more work. We look forward to playing it with the beta community shortly.

Now for the question everybody wants answered. When will the patch be released? With content locked and the final QA process underway , I am happy to announce we are now looking at a date before the end of May for the update to roll out. This should be followed by a pre-load (Valve permitting) and free weekend approximately a week later. This is to make sure there will be ample time to prepare and your friends won't have the excuse of not being ready when it is time for the free weekend. We look forward to seeing you in a bigger, better RO 2!
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May 10th Beta Changelog

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Gameplay - General•First pass client side hit detection system. Client side hit detection works for all standard small arms bullet firing weapons and for melee. Client side hit detection can be turned on/off by server admins through the webadmin tool.

•New control options added for Crouch (Hold), Prone (Hold), Iron sights (Hold), and exclusive Focus / Breathing.
•Added a new system which scales down the damage of bullets as they lose velocity, and as they penetrate objects (based on the density of the type of object they penetrate). In particular SMGs and pistols will be less effective at longer ranges while rifles and MGs will still be effective at long range. Additionally, players will take reduced damage from bullets that penetrate objects before hitting the player.
•The distance the player can fall before being damaged/killed has been increased. Falling damage now hurts the players legs and in Realism & Classic mode makes the player walk slowly for a short time.
•Added suppression for melee
•The F1 grenade damage has been increased to match it's axis counterpart
•Smoke from smoke grenades now disappears between rounds
•The map boundary effect has been brightened
•Overtime timelimit has been increased to 3 minutes. Stalling an objective capture no longer ends overtime (the objective must be completely captured or lost)
•Improvements to prone physics in tight spaces (e.g. trenches)
Gameplay - Vehicle Functionality & AI•Completely new AI configurability system with robust configurability including webadmin options. The system includes all new tank AI functionality with "player ordered AI gunnery only" as the default setup. With this new system, Tank AI will do nothing if the human player is in a tank, unless the human player orders the AI to do something. For example, if the human player orders the AI to attack an enemy, the AI will use the hull MG and the main cannon to attack the enemy for a short time. Then after a short time the AI will stop firing. In addition to this new default functionality the server admin can also run in several different configurations including turning off all vehicle AI gunnery, selecting full autonomous AI gunner, selecting player ordered gunnery only (the default), or individually turn off/on AI gunner for the hull mg and tank cannon. We highly recommend all admins try out the new player ordered AI gunnery system as it is a vast improvement over the original system.
•Fixed bugs that were causing the vehicle AI to be 100% accurate with their aimed shots when a human player was in the tank. This was the root of most of the problems with tank AI being way too hardcore and good.
•Completely revised AI gunnery model. This system has been tuned to be very forgiving and to not quite play as well as a human player would. With that said it will also be useful enough for players to want to use the system, but without completely destroying human players unrealistically like it was before. This system includes functionality that makes the AI less accurate based on many factors such as distance from the tank, movement state of the enemy (walking, sprinting, etc), as well as making the tank AI much less accurate if the tank is moving. Some elements of this system were already in the codebase, but not functioning due to a bug.
•Added some tank AI configuration elements based off of Ducky's Tank AI mutator
•You can now rotate the turret of the Panzer IV from the commander cuppola position by looking in a direction and pressing the fire button (you could already do it from the interior gunner position of the Panzer IV and the gunner/commander position of the T34)
Gameplay - Action Mode•The crosshair size now scales with the base accuracy of the weapon. More accurate weapons have tighter crosshairs, less accurate weapons have looser crosshairs.
• The crosshair now expands with the recoil of the gun to represent the shooting being less accurate for longer bursts.
•Increased weapon spread when not aiming down sights.
•Set up weapons to fire at the crosshair location for Action mode (including fixed MGs) when not using sights.
•Removed "instant death" zones in Action mode. Damage to those zones is now just scaled up rather than instantly killing theplayer. Those zones are head, neck, heart, and acorns.
•Added a system to scale the damage on a per weapon basis. Weapon damage is now more balanced for Action mode. In particular, rifles are much more effective, and the balance between weapons is much better.
•Added a new system to scale the weapon spread of weapons when not aiming down sights. It is now considerably harder to hit players when hip shooting in Action mode, which puts more of an emphasis on using sights while still allow hip shooting to be a viable tactic.
•Added a system to tweak weapon recoil for Action mode. Adjusted the recoil of the PPSH and AVT40 to be more controllable for action mode.
Gameplay - Fixes•In Countdown, the commander is no longer able to waste a reinforcement wave if nobody is dead
•Fixed an instance of getting stuck in suppression
• Fixed a bug preventing players from deploying MGs in some areas
• Fixed tank physics from 'popping' around online at close range - Still working on longer range
• Fixed disappearing players when using or viewing someone on a tripod MGs
• Fixed a rare situation where Countdown sudden death would not end
• Fixed a bug where you could get suppressed multiple times from the same penetrating shot
•Fixed a bug with melee that was causing it to not hit the body part you were aiming at
• Fixed a bug where damage scaling was breaking being able to damage tank crew members
• Fixed a bug where weapon rotation could get messed up when blind firing from cover in action mode
• Fixed a bug where the AI would take over control of the tank's turret/hull MG even if you had ordered it not to fire.
•Fixed a bug where the tank cannon would point off in random directions after the AI fired it round from it or moved it.
•Fixed a bug where the AI would just fire at anything they saw when ordered to suppress infantry rather than actually firing at the infantry the commander ordered them to fire at.
•Spectator/DemoRec no longer get stuck on the round end menu
•Servers no longer crash when misspelling a map name using servertravel
UI•On the loading screen the game mode setting is now always correct
•Fixed incorrect server details icons in the server browser
•Added popup dialog boxes to the server browser the first time you connect to action or realism servers
•The territory spawn menu no longer displays if your team is out of reinforcements
•Fixed the kill message icon for the allied AT grenade
•Tweaks to the squad member list in tactical view
•Added notification message for team kills that tell both players involved
•Added notification message for MG barrel overheating
•In Realism Mode the minimap is now displayed in tactical view
•Refinements to role/kick voting menus
•Added a tip dialog box to the weapon select menu the first time a weapon upgrade is available
•Corrected battlefield commission text (Always said Axis team)
•Adjustments to some HUD font, size, and positioning.
•Players lists are now once again available in the server browser
Graphics & Performance•Added a DOF graphics setting to the video options menu
•Fixed a texture size constraint that was causing some 32bit machines to crash
Audio•Added new audio for the native voices option
•Refined and improved vehicle MG sounds
•Panzer IV now uses a looped MG shooting sound
•Tank AI Crew members will now respond verbally to the tank commander’s orders
WebAdmin•Mutators now show up in the change map screen
•Added more flexibility to a number server settings including: team death icons, allow killcam, kill message mode/delay, friendly player name mode.
•Cleaned up some unused webadmin settings
•Fixed killcam settings not working properly in webadmin

Known Issues•There is currently a known crash when a server changes maps
•Currently the map voting screen will not list maps, but the functionality still works (names are just invisible)
•Server Browser may display incorrect information
•Count Down ready up menus have some fake player placeholder names
•Rare case of muzzle flash not showing
•Weapon focus may get "funky" - We are trying to find a good reproduction.


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Red Orchestra 2 Opt In Beta

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RO 2 owners will now find that they have the ability to opt into a Red Orchestra 2 beta (they can do this by right clicking on the game in Steam, choosing the properties option and then the beta tab to find the opt in drop down) . This beta will replace the current live build of the game (not the separate Red Orchestra 2 Beta).

A brief summary of what this beta includes:•Maps◦New Map - Mamayev Kurgan - TE, CD, FF
◦Balance updates and bug fixes for all other maps

•New Game Modes◦New Mode - Classic
◦New Mode - Action - This mode replaces relaxed realism.

•Gameplay Refinements◦Lockdown
◦Overtime
◦Spawn Protection
◦Spawn on Squad Leader
◦Enemy Spotted
◦Player Damage Model
◦Suppression
◦T-34 armor has been modified

•Community Requests◦Client side hit detection server option
◦Tank AI Changes and Additions
◦Greatly decreased deployed machine gun recoil
◦New input options for functions (toggle vs hold and more)

•Performance and Bugs◦Over 50 major bugs fixed
◦Major performance increases for clients and servers
◦Improved particles from explosions and smoke


This is not the final build, but is a near release candidate. We will be monitoring it over the weekend for any major issues that arise. Have fun, and a great weekend!

Of note, users may need to delete their mygames/ro2/rogame/config files. They need to be freshly made for this build of the game and it looks like the initial install did not do that properly.

We have also heard reports that it doesn't start the update for some users unless they toggle the "always keep this game up to date" function off and then back on

WARNING: Any users who are currently part of the Rising Storm beta team are advised NOT to opt in. The game will NOT work while the current build of Rising Storm is installed.

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I had the no games found in the server browser and the fix was to delete client registry.blob from x:/Steam/ and MasterServers.vdf or MasterServer2.vdf (can't remember which but the info is posted in RO2 Steam forum somewhere) found in x:/Steam/config/.

Dated graphic engine with gameplay like BF3 or COD.Yawn.

And it's buggy.

I couldn't get through the tank training mission because a script failed to start(i saw the same mission working on you tube)

I've got 3 files from Verifying my game cache,restarted the mission again and the same glitch.
Pretty angry at myself for buying this boring game.

Wow, Red Orchestra is a perfect platform for a Pacific theater FPS. I'll be getting Rising Sun for sure...multiplayer in RO2 is a blast.

And it's buggy.

I couldn't get through the tank training mission because a script failed to start(i saw the same mission working on you tube)

I've got 3 files from Verifying my game cache,restarted the mission again and the same glitch.
Pretty angry at myself for buying this boring game.

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"Counterattack" Mapping Contest for RO2

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And, keeping up the pressure on RO2 activity, we are happy to announce our first major mapping contest for the game. Prizes from Origin PC, Nvidia, Intel and Logitech - plus $30,000 in cash prizes from ourselves. For the details, see the competition web page: http://www.heroesofstalingrad.com/co...g-competition/

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What We Are Up To - Map Balancing and More

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Welcome back to another What We Are Up To post that lets you, the fans, know what we here at Tripwire are working towards. Things have been busy here with the recent release of the Killing Floor Summer Sideshow





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As well as our upcoming move to our new offices (to make room for all the new talented people who are joining our team here, and our continued search for more (http://www.tripwireinteractive.com/jobs/). We also have an upcoming patch for RO 2, for those not keeping track, we now have eight (8) fully playable custom maps (http://forums.tripwireinteractive.com/forumdisplay.php?f=135) available in RO 2, so be sure to check them out and provide feedback to the mappers as they get their maps ready for the Counterattack Mapping Contest. And if my eyes do not deceive me, I have spotted at least five more in development.

Speaking of the upcoming RO 2 patch, one of the least known features of the GOTY update for RO 2 was the implementation of the Steam stats tracking system. This is the same system used in games such as TF 2 to all the developers to find out how players are playing the game. Our goal with the system was to help us track map balance, and make changes to the maps based on that feedback, and I am happy to say that the first map updates based on the results of the feedback is ready with the updated maps being made available in the next RO 2 patch. Moving forward we can continue to use the system to gather feedback and make tweaks as needed based on how the community as a whole is playing the game!

We’ve also been working on several bug fixes, gameplay tweaks, and several client crashes. One of these that players will see shortly in the upcoming patch is a change to the spawn protection system. Defenders who are in a “spawn protection” area when it is activated will now have more time (twenty seconds) to pull back. In the future we will also be bringing news of our next planned content update and our plans for the game moving forward. As details are worked out we will start to present them to the players.

I’ve thrown the word upcoming patch around several times in this update. The bad news is that I do not have a patch release date to give you yet, the good news is that it will be within the month (if all goes well). Near the release of the patch we will also be posting the first of a series of dev blogs which goes over what a developer has been working on and the details behind it.

See you on the eastern front!

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Dated graphic engine with gameplay like BF3 or COD.Yawn.

And it's buggy.

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July 19th RO 2 Beta Patch

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There is currently an opt in beta available for Red Orchestra 2. This beta converts RO 2 to a new compression system to enable it to work more efficiently with the Steam byte patching system for smaller future patch downloads.

The full changelog is as follows:

Maps•Fixed minor lighting issues across all maps
•Fixed bugs across all maps


•Mamayev◦Balanced reinforcement count in Allies favor
◦Added additional cover
◦Added ammo depot to Axis staging area


•Barracks◦Improved cover between NCO barracks and Admin
◦Modified area that could be used to fire on a spawn

•Pavlovs House◦Moved ladder in Zabs house to a better location
◦Modified initial Allied spawn protection
◦Added new routers to help the Allies leave their spawns without getting killed as easily
◦Modified several spots in Zabs House that could be used by the Axis to overlook the Allied spawn exit
◦Modified Allied spawning location when the Axis are pushing the final Allied objective
◦Added additional cover to some areas of the map
◦Blocked off tank access to the yellow building area behind Zabs House

•Red October Factory◦Rebalanced reinforcement count
◦Added additional map time
◦Decreased artillery use timer
◦Removed 2nd Axis tank
◦Modified number of window firing points for Axis on the 1st obj
◦Modified initial Russian spawn protection
◦Added more cover to the 1st and 2nd objective areas
◦Fixed several bugs
◦Additional optimization

•Station◦Added more cover to the initial Axis approach
◦Modified 1st Axis spawns

•Spartanovka◦Modified capzones for Housing Block 1 & 2

•Grain Elevator◦Added several obstructions to break up line of sight
◦Increased capture time on last objective
◦Increased duration before allies lose all of their reinforcements
◦Fixed map boundary times being 1 second

•Commissars House◦Added new cover from first spawns
◦Added cover to road ahead of Commissars North Hall
◦Increased size of snow mounds around Commissars House
◦Modified map boundaries
◦Modified objective setup
◦Modified spawn locations and handling


•Training◦Fixed ref pose bots in squad leader training


Gameplay•Fixed bullet impact effects not being visible when on a fixed MG
•Fixed weapons getting lowered while aiming left from prone
•Increased spawn protection time to 20 seconds if standing in the area when it’s activated
•Correct initial ammo count for P38 and TT33 (added one)


UI•Fixed the scroll bar on the server browser player list. It should no longer continue to snap to the top.
•Fixed voted maps sometimes disappearing from the right-hand map voting box
•Fixed flickering text on the loading screen when downloading a custom map
•Fixed “FT1, FT2, FT3” etc text stuck on screen for squad leaders and commanders
•Fixed Marskman roles missing from some maps in action mode. Squad view shifting down as roles open up eventually making roles un-selectable.


Webadmin•The 'Mutate' command can now be used from the management console


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Dated graphic engine with gameplay like BF3 or COD.Yawn.

And it's buggy.

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What We Are Up To - Gearing up for the next major RO 2 Update

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Welcome back to the latest edition of the What We Are Up To post. For those just joining us, these are designed to tell you the community what is going on behind the closed doors here at Tripwire. Today is the first in a series that will be touching on our immediate and long term plans for RO 2. This post will focus on the map, multiplayer campaign and player requested refinements.

As some of the players have noticed, like before the Game Of The Year update, the RO 2 beta (the stand alone beta, NOT the opt in beta) has been updated. This has brought the beta to the same version as the live game. As the weeks and months go on we will be continuing to introduce things to the beta for player feedback before it all eventually ends up in the next RO 2 patch.

The first change, which has already been introduced in the beta, has been to turn on Multiplayer Campaign. Stay tuned to the RO 2 beta forum in the future as we schedule tests to gather feedback from players and identify what needs work.

Coming shortly we will have player requested refinements entering the beta as well. Increased stamina capacity in classic, a change to player movement while players are firing machine guns, as well as some tweaks to countdown and UI functionality to help players understand what is expected of them and what is happening during the game.

Also on the way will be our next official map. While we aren't ready to give out many details just yet (including the name), what we do want to do is let players know what our goal is with this map. It has been designed to bring back one of the combined arms style of experiences from RO 1 that has not been represented in an official map so far. Multiple tanks on both sides engaging each other over large tracks of land while infantry move up and capture the objectives. If the tanks try and get up close and personal in the objectives without friendly infantry support they will soon find themselves dodging infantry exposing themselves only long enough to damage or destroy the tank. We think it will be an great addition to to the gameplay of RO 2.

We'll be looking for feedback from the community on all these things and more as the beta advances. In the coming days I'll also be touching on major system changes, the upcoming Rising Storm and more. Speaking of Rising Storm, some of the Tripwire team is on the ground in Germany at Gamescom with Tony from Rising Storm, so keep your eyes out for new information and media!


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Obviously, you have never played it, the unreal engine might be dated, but it works very well and has the legs to go further. Many people out there who have worked in UT/RVS etc are going to be making content for this; new maps, objects, etc.. so that means there will be soon tons of free content, and to top it all off I don't see any bugs in this game that are showstoppers so again have you actually played?

Obviously you have no experience being a 2D artist while using UDK. If you did, you would know that it severely limits the quality of the graphics you can use.

It IS standalone but I think the RS install will probably be merged with RO2 if you have it (this is a guess on my part - details haven't been released about that yet). Release date is also unknown but the expansion looks relatively far along and they've been beta testing it for months now. I suspect release in fall...again just a guess. Just keep checking here and I'll let you know when some concrete info for it comes out.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

If you actually watched the video you would have heard Tony tell you when RS will be released.

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I know it's probably posted in this thread already, but maybe as a link, because did a quick scan and didn't see a You Tube window.

I got RO 2 during the Steam summer sales, but I can't find any populated server to play in multiplayer (and the single player is so awful). Are most players using the beta version? Is that where I should head instead of using the normal version?

I had the no games found in the server browser and the fix was to delete client registry.blob from x:/Steam/ and MasterServers.vdf or MasterServer2.vdf (can't remember which but the info is posted in RO2 Steam forum somewhere) found in x:/Steam/config/.

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RS & HoS in the server browser

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If you have RO:HoS, you will see RS maps in the server browser, and vice versa.

If you get RS, you will get RO:HoS Multiplayer as part of the deal.

If you already own HoS, you can get RS as an upgrade.

I can't really discuss details of release more, right now.


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Thanks Fafnir. I've browsed the servers from inside the game (ie looking at multiplayer section). But keep in mind that I'm in Australia, so there might be enough players in Europe/USA during the prime time for these zones, but not enough at my time - it's still disappointing since I can find plenty of servers to play BF3 and even Arma2, but I'd like to give RO2 a go as well... At best, I see a couple of servers with decent population but with pings way too high (Europe or East Coast). So, is the main player base using the normal version or the beta?

Anyone other ANZ RO2 players around?

Thanks for all the help. I'll give a go at the fix, there might be a problem with the server list indeed, because I wasn't seeing so many servers worldwide and it was weekend time - it did not look normal.

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What We Are Up To - Workshop

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In my previous WWAUT post I mentioned that we are working on a number of items as we push towards our next major Red Orchestra 2 update. Today I want to focus on another upcoming item sure to please both fans of Red Orchestra 2 and Killing Floor.

As you probably know, we here at Tripwire are big fans of modding (many of us having gotten our start in the Make Something Unreal contest), and support it through the release of our SDK's, contests to promote content creation and more. The latest being the Counterattack Mapping Contest for Red Orchestra 2 with thousands of dollars up for grabs! With phase 1 done and judging getting underway, the custom mappers are already hard at work for their phase 2 entries.

But we aren't stopping there, the next big thing we are doing is integrating Steam Workshop into both Killing Floor and Red Orchestra 2! This feature of Steam allows players to browse content created for our titles, find what they like and subscribe to it with the click of a button. This will keep them always up to date. You can read more on all it all works here.

We look forward to the fans having an easier time finding the great community generated content, from maps, mutators, and total conversions.
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What We Are Up To - Barashka

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A long railroad bridge, scattered buildings, bunkers facing each other across a long gully. Sound familiar?

For long time Red Orchestra fans it should, because I'm talking about Barashka, the next official map for Red Orchestra 2. Featuring combined arms gameplay and thrilling cat and mouse chases between infantry and armor as they duel for control over territory, we are bringing this classic RO map back to life.



While its full facelift underway to bring it up to RO 2 standards, we will shortly be adding it to the stand alone beta so players can help us with feedback on gameplay. We look forward to playing this classic map with the community again (and it is quickly becoming one of my favorites)!

A lot of community members have been asking when we'll be adding more vehicles to the game, particularly troop transports. The short answer is that we've shifted around our plans a bit and additional vehicles are something that we're still looking to add, but won't be coming in the really near future. This is partially due to Rising Storm catching us by surprise - in a good way! Once we played the early versions of Rising Storm we knew it was going to be awesome, and decided to turn it into a full product. This means a lot of the Tripwire team have been cranking away working on Rising Storm along with the Rising Storm team to get the game ready for release. We've also been hard at work supporting the RO2 mod community by working on SDK updates and Steam workshop support which we're very excited about. Steam workshop should really revolutionize the way community mappers distribute their maps and make it much easier for players to find the cool content mappers and modders are working on.

We've also heard the murmuring in the community with speculation about how Rising Storm will be priced. While we aren't yet ready to release the exact pricing, we will clarify something right now. We will not be throwing the current RO2 community under the bus!!! Our current plan is to allow existing RO2 owners to upgrade to Rising Storm at a significant discount compared to someone that just buys Rising Storm outright. Additionally, we will not be splintering the community by keeping players separated. Servers will be able to run RO2 and Rising Storm maps back to back on the same server. Finally, while we're not quite ready to release the details of exactly how it will work, RO2 players that don't own Rising Storm won't just get booted off the server when a Rising Storm map comes up. Rather RO2 owners will be able to play Rising Storm even if they haven't purchased the add-on, likely with some limitations on weapon/class selection. So to summarize, RO2 owners will get a discount on Rising Storm, and everybody will be able to play together on the same servers!

Speaking of additional content, I'd like to take this time to highlight the works of Coin-goD who is working to bring anti-tank guns to the game and Blitzk.-Bob who is has a team working on new vehicles. If there are any other awesome projects I have missed be sure to let me know in the comments below! Judging is also getting underway on the following maps that were submitted to Phase 1 of the Counterattack mapping contest: Arad 2, Bridges over Druzhina, Butovo, Coldsteel, Gumrak Station, Kursk, Moscow Highway, Ogledow, Otpy3kab2, and Univermag. If you haven't yet, make sure to check them out!


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