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#3519629 - 02/15/12 10:39 PM Re: Using the GAU-8 [Re: - Ice]
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Originally Posted By: RuhRoh
Now, to test the sim, can someone 'break' it so that the computer calculation is off?

Now why would you want to do that?

Interesting that the sim allows for this though.


Just because its yet another holy crap moment about the level of insane detail they've gone to in this sim.

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#3519661 - 02/16/12 02:04 AM Re: Using the GAU-8 [Re: RuhRoh]
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Originally Posted By: RuhRoh
Just because its yet another holy crap moment about the level of insane detail they've gone to in this sim.

I see. Well, it's not real enough for me!! I don't have any piddle packs!! biggrin biggrin biggrin
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#3519793 - 02/16/12 08:18 AM Re: Using the GAU-8 [Re: - Ice]
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Originally Posted By: - Ice
Originally Posted By: RuhRoh
Just because its yet another holy crap moment about the level of insane detail they've gone to in this sim.

I see. Well, it's not real enough for me!! I don't have any piddle packs!! biggrin biggrin biggrin


- Ice,
You need the Advanced Mission Extender Device, known in military jargon as the AMXD.
Relief is spelled M O O N

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#3519889 - 02/16/12 09:51 AM Re: Using the GAU-8 [Re: Wrecking Crew]
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- Ice,
You need the Advanced Mission Extender Device, known in military jargon as the AMXD.
Relief is spelled M O O N

WC


Great, $2,000. I just might buy that, but I'll stick to my water bottle for now. And I'm glad my flight suit is a little more "commando". biggrin
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#3519895 - 02/16/12 09:53 AM Re: Using the GAU-8 [Re: - Ice]
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Originally Posted By: Wrecking Crew
- Ice,
You need the Advanced Mission Extender Device, known in military jargon as the AMXD.
Relief is spelled M O O N

WC


Great, $2,000. I just might buy that, but I'll stick to my water bottle for now. And I'm glad my flight suit is a little more "commando". biggrin


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#3519926 - 02/16/12 10:10 AM Re: Using the GAU-8 [Re: MaceUK33]
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You and your dirty mind. I do what I must. biggrin
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#3527353 - 02/27/12 01:16 PM Re: Using the GAU-8 [Re: MaceUK33]
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I wouldnt have noticed if you hadn't brought it up. Seems to me that finding out where and when rounds are fired after they're already aloft may be of limited usefulness. Say they are way off... What does that tell you? That the computer projecting your reticle is off? Or that the computer programming the impact points is off? Or are they one in the same? And if they are off... What do you do about it?

Sorry. Seems to me "the boys" flying the A10A said "we want to be able to see this" so it was integrated with the upgrade. I'd like to know what the benefit is and how to benefit from the knowledge of it being off target?
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#3527657 - 02/28/12 01:12 AM Re: Using the GAU-8 [Re: eno75]
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It's the BATA (Bullets At Target Altitude) symbol. It's showing where the IFFCC thinks the rounds will be hitting based on the time of flight/slant range at the moment of firing, it's a cue to let you know your rounds are hitting the ground/target and a way for you to confirm that they are indeed hitting where they should be. It's doing the same thing for strafe attacks as the TOF counter does for other weapons.

If the BATA symbology is telling you the rounds are hitting, but you're not seeing it, you might have incorrect altitude setting in the IFFCC, for example.


I have never noticed this before due to two reasons:
1. If I'm attacking a tank, I keep the pipper on target the whole time. I would guess that the BATA will be where my pipper is at and therefore may not show up. You will notice Mace got this to appear because he fired from 1.5nm out, shifted aim, then fired again (BATA circle came up as his first set of rounds impacted), and so on.
2. If I'm attacking a soft target, I strafe the area and come off, not waiting to see where my rounds it... then looking over my shoulder for secondaries.

Originally Posted By: eno75
Seems to me that finding out where and when rounds are fired after they're already aloft may be of limited usefulness. Say they are way off... What does that tell you? That the computer projecting your reticle is off? Or that the computer programming the impact points is off? Or are they one in the same? And if they are off... What do you do about it?

If you fired, then the BATA circle comes up but your rounds do not impact your target, then you know YOUR GUN is off target, not your aim. That way you have evidence to submit when you ask for a new crew chief biggrin In the sim, where everything in the A10 is about perfect, I don't see much use. In real life, I guess it will help with gun calibration and alignment issues, maybe the computer itself can be "reprogrammed" to account for gun inaccuracy... those are just guesses, I'll leave the final answer to our real-life experts.
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#3527991 - 02/28/12 10:44 AM Re: Using the GAU-8 [Re: MaceUK33]
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Originally Posted By: MaceUK33


Here's what I mean, quick vid I made, you can just see a little circle 'painting' where the rounds impact:



Mace,
What did you use to take this video with? Can that video be posted right to You Tube?

What editor do you use?

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#3527998 - 02/28/12 10:51 AM Re: Using the GAU-8 [Re: MaceUK33]
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I use Fraps and as it just a quick vid there was no editing needed I just uploaded the AVI Fraps saved as, but I have Sony Vegas for editing.
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