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#3520549 - 02/17/12 08:36 AM Re: Arma 3: My thoughts [Re: Vertigo1]
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Originally Posted By: Vertigo1
BTW, I'm looking forward to flying the comanche.


Is it the RAH-66, or is it one of those "what ifs" with changes to it like we've seen in other Arma 3 shots?



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#3520570 - 02/17/12 08:54 AM Re: Arma 3: My thoughts [Re: The Blackbird]
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No, the RAH-66 in ArmA3 is inded a "real" RAH-66 (Comanche) but of course the RAH-66 will still be a "what if" since it was canceled and never entered in service within the US Army or any other armed service.

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#3520576 - 02/17/12 08:57 AM Re: Arma 3: My thoughts [Re: The Blackbird]
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I am wondering if they are leaving the "real" military stuff to modders or they are going to release them in DLC packs. Say BAF pack, U.S. Army pack, .....
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#3520683 - 02/17/12 11:06 AM Re: Arma 3: My thoughts [Re: Punisher5555]
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Originally Posted By: Punisher5555
I am wondering if they are leaving the "real" military stuff to modders or they are going to release them in DLC packs. Say BAF pack, U.S. Army pack, .....



Well, that's my hope (at least for the addon/DLC part)! Actually until NO "real" military stuff is modeled for ArmA3 I simply won't buy this game (ArmA3). It's a petty that BIS decided (IMO) to shoot themselfs on the foot like this in ArmA3 even because all the ArmA games (ArmA1 and ArmA2) were the only games that I bought and had the confidence to buy before comming out to the market (pre-order) - This of course will change with ArmA3.

IMO, BIS should change the name of ArmA3 to something like ArmA:HALO (due to it's "futuristic nature") rolleyes

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#3520747 - 02/17/12 12:15 PM Re: Arma 3: My thoughts [Re: ricnunes]
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Originally Posted By: ricnunes
Originally Posted By: Punisher5555
I am wondering if they are leaving the "real" military stuff to modders or they are going to release them in DLC packs. Say BAF pack, U.S. Army pack, .....



Well, that's my hope (at least for the addon/DLC part)! Actually until NO "real" military stuff is modeled for ArmA3 I simply won't buy this game (ArmA3). It's a petty that BIS decided (IMO) to shoot themselfs on the foot like this in ArmA3 even because all the ArmA games (ArmA1 and ArmA2) were the only games that I bought and had the confidence to buy before comming out to the market (pre-order) - This of course will change with ArmA3.

IMO, BIS should change the name of ArmA3 to something like ArmA:HALO (due to it's "futuristic nature") rolleyes

Yes, because I'm sure there's going to be hover tanks and lasers and space battles rolleyes Amazing that you could get all this from a few screenshots lol
What don't people understand? OFP/Arma have always been an "alternate" universe where everything is NOT 100% real. I mean how many times can they recycle the same weapons/equipment over and over and over? Also most (if not all) of the weapons may not exist today; but they did at some time on paper, so it's not some kind of HALO clone on Earth.

As long as the game is balanced and has realistic ballistics/weapon handling, then it's just like the last two Arma games


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#3520873 - 02/17/12 02:27 PM Re: Arma 3: My thoughts [Re: The Blackbird]
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yea its not exactly space ships and guys in spacesuits, its very resonable "what ifs" and set in 2020/2030 or summing if i remeber right. It also means they dont have to deal with any potential licenses by useing anything with boeing or textron involved duck

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#3520886 - 02/17/12 02:41 PM Re: Arma 3: My thoughts [Re: The Blackbird]
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The Comanche was Boeing. biggrin

Just 2 were built, and while they were very capable aero-wise, who knows how the production model would've fared. Might have been more software-based avionics headaches than would be worthwhile.

I'm sure instead of Arma3 BIS could call it Arma: Future Soldier or Arma: Advanced Warfare, but then they'd have Ubisoft to fight with. wink



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#3521004 - 02/17/12 04:19 PM Re: Arma 3: My thoughts [Re: NoUseForAName]
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Originally Posted By: NoUseForAName
Yes, because I'm sure there's going to be hover tanks and lasers and space battles rolleyes Amazing that you could get all this from a few screenshots lol
What don't people understand? OFP/Arma have always been an "alternate" universe where everything is NOT 100% real. I mean how many times can they recycle the same weapons/equipment over and over and over? Also most (if not all) of the weapons may not exist today; but they did at some time on paper, so it's not some kind of HALO clone on Earth.

As long as the game is balanced and has realistic ballistics/weapon handling, then it's just like the last two Arma games


There will be no "hover tanks" and/or "laser guns" but there will be RAIL GUNS (this is confirmed for ArmA3) and other unspecified/undisclosed futuristic weaponry (who knows if "Laser Guns" will inded appear in ArmA3 afterall!) so with the presence of RAIL GUN, Hover tanks and Laser guns wouldn't be that far off!

You don't understand people like me?? Well, you don't have too! This is my oppinion and there's nothing you can do about it and nothing you can do to change it!! Yes, ArmA was always set in "alternate" universes but so far in EVERY ArmA game EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT (weaponry, aircraft, vehicles, etc...) EXISTS OR EXISTED which for the FIRST TIME this WON'T BE THE CASE in ArmA3 - And that's preciselly my problem with ArmA3!

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#3521061 - 02/17/12 05:28 PM Re: Arma 3: My thoughts [Re: ricnunes]
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Originally Posted By: ricnunes


There will be no "hover tanks" and/or "laser guns" but there will be RAIL GUNS (this is confirmed for ArmA3) and other unspecified/undisclosed futuristic weaponry (who knows if "Laser Guns" will inded appear in ArmA3 afterall!) so with the presence of RAIL GUN, Hover tanks and Laser guns wouldn't be that far off!


hardley futuristic when they exist now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y54aLcC3G74

quick comparsion ..

Arma3 ... http://www.arma3.com/full/wp-content/gallery/imagery/scr01.jpg

Halo ... http://www.deafgamers.com/07screenshots_a/halo3pic3.jpg

yup .. i can see how you could get confused rolleyes

sure they might not be useing weapons used currently .. but who cares, no one seemed to car about the SCARS or XM8s all that much !

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#3521187 - 02/17/12 07:56 PM Re: Arma 3: My thoughts [Re: ricnunes]
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Originally Posted By: ricnunes
There will be no "hover tanks" and/or "laser guns" but there will be RAIL GUNS (this is confirmed for ArmA3) and other unspecified/undisclosed futuristic weaponry (who knows if "Laser Guns" will inded appear in ArmA3 afterall!) so with the presence of RAIL GUN, Hover tanks and Laser guns wouldn't be that far off!

You don't understand people like me?? Well, you don't have too! This is my oppinion and there's nothing you can do about it and nothing you can do to change it!! Yes, ArmA was always set in "alternate" universes but so far in EVERY ArmA game EVERY PIECE OF EQUIPMENT (weaponry, aircraft, vehicles, etc...) EXISTS OR EXISTED which for the FIRST TIME this WON'T BE THE CASE in ArmA3 - And that's preciselly my problem with ArmA3!

So don't get it. Or better yet, don't place the units you don't like in the mission you make. Or don't play missions that include them. Really, the flexibility built into the game has always been its highlight. ArmA2 had enough units in it that you could simulate really any type of warfare, from high-end high-intensity company-level battles complete with aircraft and even tactical nuclear weapons, to low-intensity squad-level counter-insurgency patrols. Different strokes for different folks, but you really can make the game the way you like it.
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